Yes life isnt fair. But its self centered people (not saying no names) that make the world that much harder. People only care for themselfs and dont think about what other people are going through.. As long as it doesnt effect me @#$# the rest of them.

I always wished i could play God sometimes and press a button and put the person who is arguing againist a situation in that situation and see if their outlook changed. I bet 99% of the time it would.


Thats one reason the world is so screwed up now cause of people with your outlook.

[edit on 24-7-2008 by ncuncfan2006]

Touchy topic, but in reality it is true, it needs to stop. Something needs to stop. It is nothing but a political move in reality. It does nothing for the economy or the workers.

If we lived in a perfect world, wages would always go up and the cost of things would never change, but it doesn't.

Unskilled people can find work that pays more than minimum wage in most cases. The people working these jobs are typically looking for some spending money while they live with parents or at school etc.

If you want to raise a family, you need to be prepared. Its common sense to budget. People never do though.....

I won't be starting a family in my financial circumstances and I am not on minimum wage.

Yes they come over here and take jobs and companys move over their for cheaper labor.

I believe a person should be paid a certain amount.

An employee working full-time at the federal minimum wage makes $10,712 a year. About 7% of the workforce earns a minimum wage.

Growing income inequality harms this nation in a number of ways, When income growth is concentrated at the top of the income scale, the people at the bottom have a much harder time lifting themselves out of poverty and giving their children a decent start in life.

[edit on 24-7-2008 by ncuncfan2006]

........ at $5.85 working 40hrs a week, a person can expect to earn $234 a week, or $936 a month, a total of $11,223 a year.

In Ohio, minimum wage is $7.00.

I live on the east side of High Street (middle of Columbus) a little off of Ohio State campus(15th and Summit area). My neighborhood is primarily students mixed in with other low income families. I pay $300 a month for rent and cover all expenses, including school(and as some likely know Ohio State is an expensive public school even if tuition is payed for). I have no student loans. When I am in school (summer now) I go full time, work a 35 hour/week job and another 20 hour/week job(both jobs require little training... i.e. entry level). On top of this, I am in the Air National Guard and I have to balance duties and deployments within this.

What I am trying to say is 40 hours a week is nothing. I consider anyone who works 40 hours or less as barely employed or very fortunate.

Lazy people work BS jobs at 40 hours a week, while determined people work longer hours at BS jobs just to pay for the education to better themselves. I work a BS job merely as a means to an end, but to others, that is their end.

I do not feel sorry for people who have no drive to do better for themselves or their families. I do feel sorry for the children caught up in this combine, and I feel sorry they have to cope with government 'programs' (sinkholes). I would gladly donate food/supplies/my time to these kids, but the government insists on paying their parents, as well as a line of bureaucrats who think they know how to spend my money.

The market should determine wages. When the government gets involved with the economy, you get Frankie Mac and Fannie Mae(the 'F' is the FEDERAL part).

You are a superhero. Everyone should work more than 40 hours a week. No, 24 hours a day. Anything less is lazy.

Come on.

Originally posted by 38181
Every time they raise minimun wage, people loose there jobs.

Why?

Ask the small business owner who is struggling to pay their employees in the first place!

I own a small business with 7 employees in CA, our minimum wage is $8/hr! With all the taxes I have to match, worker comp, insurances and the plethora of other CA state, county and city fees we barely break even, some months I don't even pay myself!! it is beyond obvious that the gov't want us small businesses gone. If it were not for all the matching of taxes, fees, etc...I might be able to give them a bit more and stay in business, honestly any more increases and I will not have a choice but to lay off. Of course the economy isn't helping matters AND there are more state and federal audits now than EVER! It's disheartening. They will cite you for anything and the citations are expensive!! I'll say it again, the gov't seems to be doing all they can do to get small businesses to go away.

To the OP, I understand where you are coming from. I understand that people should get an education instead of relying on the minimum wage to go up to live on. But you do have to understand, regarding the person with 6 kids, maybe it wasn't her choice to have six kids, maybe her husband is abusive and rapes her, thus the 6 kids, thus not her choice. You should remember that not every marriage or relationship is civil and equal. There are people out there that do this and has have this happened to them. For those people who are vicitms, they feel like they have no choice, they stay with their partner because they are either scared or they financially depend on them. I feel like everyone does need college education to survive, but for many they don't have the money to go to college or maybe their parents have died or are not allowed to work and they have to support their family. There are reasonable reasons why these things happen to people. Coming from a person that lives in Hawaii, I think our minimum wage is $7.25 or $7.50, and with gasoline prices so high, people are stuggling. At 22 years old, I have an Associates Degree, with half of my Bachelors finished, I feel like I have more education and experience then others do that are out there in the workforce and within the past 6 months I have not been able to find a job. I have applied to over 30 jobs, and with my experience and education I haven't gotten one yet. With response to the minimum wage, when the minimum wage goes up, everything else goes up, thus the minimum wage goes up, and thus the vicious circle. I don't want it to seem like I am attacking the OP, I just want to shed some light from my opinion.

so the OP believes a higher education is the solution. Lets assume everybody gets higher education, then please tell me who would clean toilets?
life appears so simple for you right, where can people get an education when they cant even afford to feed themselves?