Originally posted by VitriolAndAngst
Sorry about the "ilk" comment. You certainly are one of the people who boot-strapped, and not the white-picket-fence type.
The problem is, you sound EXACTLY like the white-picket-fence people who don't give a damn. You might help people and that is great. You might blame
nobody and teach your kids to strive to be better -- that is a winning attitude.
But to get ahead at work, I find you have to adapt the attitude and world-view of the boss.
well, not all boss' are mean, ya know. I know a couple business owners who have ppl working for them and they give their employees every opportunity
to make good money.
As for me, I work for myself. I don't have to be anyone's boss but my own, so I can keep my earnings (minus what i have to take out to give to ppl I
I am not a cruel person by any means. And quite honestly, even though I knew that I had to work when I graduated highschool and did work hard, I used
to take the same position as many of you on here do.
It wasn't until I was put into the same position (maybe even worse than some) of these "disadvantaged" ppl that I realized, we are not
disadvantaged in this country by ANY means!! We have the ability to do something w/ ourselves that many other countries don't have. Even a person who
has no legs has every opportunity to use their head and invent real services and products for ppl; especially now that internet is available. In this
country unless there is something mentally wrong w/ you, the opportunity still exists for all.
This "poor me" attitude and relying on our gov't to not only regulate personal and business affairs, not to mention the "handouts" ppl take is
going to destroy what makes this country so great.
I take this hard core stance because I have done it and I am not a genius by any means, I am just a typical average person who had the goals of
earning my own money, setting my own hours, and having a comfortable (not spoiled) life for me and my children. Again, I honestly believed that there
were ppl who couldn't help their situation until I was one of those ppl.
The poor nations that people leave behind, and come to America to escape, have EVERYONE, thinking that poor people are lazy.
That's what I meant when I said; "your ilk." You've adopted the belief system of the people who create these problems as well. You are totally not
getting what I am saying. You adopting a 'can do" attitude is absolutely fine. You not understanding why we should have Universal Healthcare and
social safety nets, is a belief system that is promoted by the Robber Barons.
You still have me pegged wrong. Do you even understand WHY doctor prices are so high? It is because of programs like medicaid, insurance fraud,
ridiculous lawsuits, etc. These programs are what causes the problem, not solve it. If doctors could be paid directly and ppl would quit running to
them for every little problem, then prices would go down. They have to make a profit too and because they are valuable and their service is a higher
skill than say toilet cleaners, they deserve to make better profits.
I don't understand how I am considered a thief when I pay for every service and product w/ the money I earn. In fact, I am not. The thieves are those
who help to push up these costs through demanding free services that I have to help pay for through taxes and higher costs.
I look at people like Clarence Thomas, and they have adopted the mean spirit of the people who used to keep people like him down. There is a
great middle ground and I think you should listen to some of Obama's speeches on that matter. We can ask people to have personal responsibility
without forgetting our duty to help them out.
uhm, I listen to obama merely for the fact of keeping up with the current events and if you want to see my "picking" apart of his socialist agenda,
there are plenty of my posts on him in the post section of my profile.
obama is pushing to keep the poor man down. He is wanting to erase individuality. He is the pushing to keep the very problems that we have in our
People don't understand what this country was meant to be about and so in their uneducated views, all they hear is change change change. Yeah, we'll
see change w/ him, but REALLY look at his issues and you will see the change is dangerous not only for the poor man, but for every person who wants to
maintain their right to individuality.
I'm not "whining" about minimum wage because I'm not in that boat. I'm pretty angry at the whiners who think THEY are going to be hurt by
helping out the little guy. Unless you are making that money on the Nikes shoes that get built for $1 -- YOU are not going to be hurt by increasing
money going to labor.
I am sure your intentions are good, but have you heard the saying "the road to hell is paved w/ good intentions."? the best thing I can do is to
help try and educate others about what this country stands for because yes, I will lose everything I have worked for if this socialist agenda keeps
trekking along. My kids have more of a right to what I earn than some woman on food stamps kids.
But, you don't have to figure out economics to get promoted in this economy. It really helps if you think and talk the right way, however.
It's also a good way to make friends with Republicans, is to adopt their way of thinking. Become one of the "safe" people who think right. Collin
Powell was a good soldier and did what his commander told him to do. And held up a little white powder at the UN and lied about Iraq.
your first sentence is right on. Before this venture on the single mother path, I had no clue about the economy. Heck, I am still learning things bc I
would eventually like to be able to help others get out of their situations by empowering them, not handing them freebees..
btw....... I am not republican either. They are looking for the same ultimate goal as the democrats, they just go about it differently.
So much is stolen at the top in this country -- and this crime is covered up by a debate about $.70 more for the people at the bottom. Your
story is compelling and uplifting and I don't take away from that. But your story shouldn't also be a cop-out for keeping the system the way it is.
If my story can inspire just one person to put the food stamps down, get out a piece of paper and pen and start listing out ideas for how they can
start on their own path to be their own boss and then go after it, then that would be great. However, that was not my point.
My point in telling my story is that what I have gone through IS the American dream and if more ppl would take responsibility for their choices and
quit relying, this country can come up w/ real solutions to problems that, yes, are real, without giving the gov't more power to control our
I wouldn't mind living in some of those Socialist countries --- but it is a LOT harder to get in to them than it is the USA. That should tell
Be gone then! And take some others that don't want the opportunity to make something that is really theirs of this life! This country wasn't meant
for ppl like you. Saying the pledge and wearing red, white, and blue doesn't make you an American at heart. Working hard and making something of your