reply to post by justamomma
My brother got involved with drugs at his high school. Instead of going to prison, he went to therapy. He now manages 100+ people and makes over
$250K. WE have both gone through depression. I'd say we can thank FORTUNE and our place in this world a lot more than hard work. And some people do
NOT know how to get ahead -- it is a skill and it is networking. If you didn't get born in the right family -- chances are you will never get it.
You seem to not get the point about hard-working people in third-world countries. The thing that allows hard work to pay off -- is all the damn
Liberal institutions that you and your ilk take for granted and want to destroy. That tough love crap didn't work for the entire length of human
history -- but that doesn't stop people from still using it. Wow, I guess the Dark Ages, Slavery and Serfdom must have been a panacea -- no lazy
people, why did anyone decide that we needed America to be free in the first place? We just created a haven for laziness.
Good for you, not raising lazy kids. People every day accomplish this amazing feat behind the safety of a white picket fence, and grew up without the
sort of questions in life that distract from a good paying job. I don't want to speculate, but I've known a lot of church-going people who have
these huge networks of support. They think all the worlds problems would be solved if everyone were like them. The world cannot support the number of
wasteful, hypocritical, SUV-driving Christians as it is. The callousness towards the environment, towards the unfortunate, and the head-in-the sand
concept that Charities and begging can solve any of these huge problems fits hand-in-glove with the White-Picket-Fence Christo-fascists in this
I'm not saying we don't have a problem with culture, where people are always looking for an excuse. But as successful people in America, WE cannot
be whining about our responsibility to help others succeed just because people abuse it. America was doing a lot better economically, when we were
treating the people at the bottom better. I'd be happy if they never had to work. Because I don't worry about people getting something for free. I
worry about the wealthy taking everything and making me fight over the scraps.
NOBODY is helped by crass people who put them down. Some people need a dream as a way to get by when the don't have energy to play with their kids. I
don't know, with the diets we have, if more of us aren't just losing all our energy to begin with. Nobody has been helped by tough-love talks, only
the conscience of the self-satisfied who never cared about anybody but #1 anyway.
A single mother is NOT going to get ahead in this country unless they are EXTREMELY lucky. For a thousand that make it, a million did not.
I like Barack Obama's speech on this topic. For this young lady -- making excuses won't help her. But on the other hand -- we cannot be making
excuses for leaving her where she is. YOU should not be putting the onus on someone else. It really disgusts me that I have to tell so many people
this -- and I'm not even a Christian. Religion hasn't done a damn thing to make Americans better people, because we don't follow any of those
principles of humility and charity. Charity is NOT running a bake sale and giving proceeds to the token poor family. Charity is doing something so
that Tracy and people like her get the opportunities you do.
Free healthcare and free education and maybe someplace to leave the kids that isn't a car and maybe we can talk again about getting rid of welfare --
but until then, I'd support 3 times more for people than for bombs.
It takes a lot of self-control for me to put up with moronic Conservative concepts from. which are really justifications from the self-satisfied and
greedy. They don't even know what makes themselves tick -- much less the world.