I hadn't noticed all the posters who said those of us who can see (that minimum wage isn't going to cut out the complaining and is only going to
serve in being a catalyst to more problems which in essence will equal more complainers wanting even more handed to them) are only saying these things
because we are rich.
maybe some on here (I know of at least one) make higher than mid income but just like that one, they worked to get there.
They didn't just wake up one day and
they were rich. In fact, aren't there quite a few testimonies of ppl on here that started out with SEVERAL
disadvantages but instead of complaining that they weren't being given enough, used that thing in their head for what it was actually made for and
turned their life around?
I have been called "one of the lucky one's" or "one of those advantaged ppl" because of my views on these sorts of things and that is a major
misconception being made by those who claim to be denying ignorance. I hold to my views because I was NOT one of the advantaged ones, well, not always
and unless I help to bring some awareness to the importance of self responsibility, then I will have a harder time maintaining what I have worked so
hard for, both for me and my sons bc I will continue to be one of the ones picking up the slack for others.
Now, I kind of wanted to give my perspective on the following post, and although I am not sure that it will help to change other's views, I am at
least trying to get someone from the other side of this perspective to answer some questions that are valid questions.
Originally posted by ofhumandescent
reply to post by Solarskye
Minimum wage is not enough to live on still.
People do not whine and complain when movie stars and CEO's earn the tens of millions of dollars (now come on is anyone really worth that amount of
money) but people whine and complain when the people who do the real work, the people who god bless them are there everyday to serve us our
McDonald's ( How much does the CEO at McDonald's make?)
The movie stars are being paid by the people that are complaining though. Movie Stars aren't just pulling money out of their arses ya know. I will
say that I agree the amounts of money they are making are insane, but that says more about the ppl in our society and where their interests are. They
are the ones paying for the movie tickets, the dvd's, the products that are being put out from the movie stars, etc. So, to blame those that would
manipulate the public when the public is so easily manipulated and quite honestly doesn't care to step out of that manipulation is pointless.
That is this world. Yes, there are those that manipulate, but they can only manipulate so long as the people below stay ignorant and continue to rely
on them, whether it is for entertainment, money, or to call the shots for them.
I actually have been in a seemingly WORSE situation than most of the examples being cited on here as "those poor ppl can't help themselves" types.
I was one of the ones that you all would be feeling sorry for. The single mom w/ two kids living in a place barely fit for a dog bc she was left w/
nothing from her ex financially; had no phone; a car that sometimes worked, sometimes didn't; and the nearest job was about 5 miles away (hardly an
easy walk in the hill country lol).
The jobs that I had once qualified for 5 yrs prior to the birth of my first son were now unavailable to me because I didn't speak spanish. I applied
at Walmart but was told that I would have to be willing to work any hours (which is hard when I couldn't even afford daycare), and on and on I could
go w/ the same sob story as many others.
Instead of complaining and giving up to blame society for "holding me down," I started searching for alternative ways to bring in money that would
allow me to be here for my kids. I stuck to it w/ determination and hard work. I got ideas from business owner friends (not help financially or
anything of the sort, just ideas) to bring in my own money. I don't have to rely on the companies any more to tell me when I will work or how much I
will get paid.
You are not going to get rid of the greedy people, and especially not by relying on THEM to "fix" your situations.
Quit having so little faith in those who don't have much. Quit insulting them and acting like your pity is going to do any good for them. Be blunt
and tell them "YOU CAN MAKE SOMETHING BETTER OF YOURSELF bc you ARE smart and I DO believe in you!!"
Some of you are very snotty in your presentation of how you view those of us who climbed our way out from the bottom and you are sickening in your
view of ppl that have less. You act like you are their hero instead of encouraging them to be their own hero. In essence you are encouraging them to
rely on someone/thing else rather than teaching them that they don't have to settle if they just get inventive and quit relying.
Instead of complaining about minimum wages going up start complaining about the folks making so much money they can't spend it all in several
life times. Minimum wage at present is still not enough to live on.[edit on 26-7-2008 by ofhumandescent]
this is a statement that I am baffled by. Why would I get so mad at ppl that have so much money that they can't spend it all in several lifetimes?
MOST of the ones you are talking about have obtained their money because the ones that you are "defending" keep wasting their MW on these ppl's
entertainment and products rather than putting their money into something more productive to get them off the "bottom rung" MW jobs.
Stop holding ppl back by pitying them.. Encourage them to live up to their potential.
I can list out a whole mess of things ppl can do for themselves and make a VERY decent living at. They won't have to rely on anyone to set schedules
FOR them...... they would be their own boss. I have a long list because I use my most importabt marketable asset....... my brain!! Should the things I
am doing now stop bringing in revenue, I have many back up plans. Teach ppl to be smart, not to continue to live in ignorance by relying on
[edit on 26-7-2008 by justamomma]