Sigh~ I don't suppose any of you philosophers would think of taking a second to consider answering one of the few questions i asked?

Originally posted by Levita
I read this thread. I like what some of you have to say, seeing both material and spiritual sides. And i have to ask a few things:

~What if menguard IS right, and "activating" the 'junk' DNA would actually kill you? Though that would mean an advancement up to the fourth dimension, what if it killed you? And what if activation of some strange gene brought about a painful change that did kill you? What are you hoping to unlock by activation of the DNA? Psychic powers? A set of angel wings? "We" aren't angels. Metaphysics interests me, and science fascinates me, finding out how everything works. But remember that we are talking about PHYSICAL DNA here. Opening of the chakras- energy centers-metaphysical- is used to open psychic capabilities, am i right? So, Why DNA- physical- what do you hope to activate?

But then, on the other hand, why have there been crop circles in cross shapes, and what would happen if one was to meditate lying in a crop circle?

Also, i would like to ask something here: had anyone directly seen a crop circle? I have only watched shows about them, where the people always say the real ones have orbs of energy in them. If that's so... are those orbs found in the exact center of the crop circle?

Watch the video in the "morgellons is the 2012 DNA change" link in my signature, Levita.

Barbara, the narrarator... in 1992 wrote what she's saying..
The .."change" she presents.. i something that doesn't just "bam on 2012 happy day you're now enlightened".. etc..
it s a slow change.. and if your body is weak.. and if you can't handle it.. emotionally.. and mentally and physically.. your body will be destroyed.. she supposedly says.


many of the people I've met, whether they like to admit it or not.. are excruciating agony and mental distress.
many many .. almost 100% of people I've known through meeting people online that have the same symptoms of "morgellons" (great people though).. SMOKE CIGARETTES..
many drink a lot of coffee and soda. Because you get very very tired, and to actually function at a job, is next to impossible when you're going through this, if you're already unhealthy... without CAFFEINE... this can make the body very acidic.
I don't know of many I can think of that exercise.
I'm not saying take caffeine.. I'm only explaining why so much is consumed.. leading to acidic bodies..


in the video... it says to work with your body to oxygenate it.. to drink a tremendous amount of pure filtered water. (not bottled crap.. not tap)..
get a good amount of body work done.. to work in and release the toxins .. and let your body grow in a positive manner through it all.

being in good shape and having a very healthy lifestyle is paramount during this change.

yeah.. this massive change... the feeling of vibrations all through your body..constantly... the sensation of "growing"..."expanding".. in the center of your skull.. the sensation of something moving under your skin... (new nerves) ...
literally.. hair moving on its own.. and changing in appearance... from it's regular state.. to a copper-ish.. "mother of pearl" sheen when in the sunlight..
and the most prominently amazing affect.. the violent vibration of the space in yoru forehead at the top of your nose bridge right between your eyes.. laying in bed at night.. you'll feel it PULSATE RAPIDLY.. such that you can actually reach up and feel the muscle/skin righ tthere rapidly spasming...

3rd eye anyone??

these are all very odd and astounding things to go through all at once.

... i mean.. that all.. and the moving clear fibers and geometric glitter.


take care of yourself.. keep yourself grounded with friends and loved ones to support you.. and get a head start on it.. don't let it catch you when you're unhealthy .. if you are..
take on a severely responsible outlook on taking care of your body.
so that when you go through it.. your body will be able to work with it..

good question.

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[edit on 28-7-2008 by prevenge]

Originally posted by Johnmike
And no, this has nothing to do with "activating" strands of DNA, or junk DNA. At least none of the twelve-strand nonsense that is repeated sometimes.
[edit on 28-7-2008 by Johnmike]

I need to ask - do you have solid proof that it is not the 12 starnds of DNA - I mean you need to back that statement up with some proof to the contrary??
Would like to know

thanks

[edit on 29-7-2008 by Valorian]

[edit on 29-7-2008 by Valorian]

This is something else I am going to talk on, I was in a grocery store and one of my space guides switched frequencies in my brain which is alternating the electrical current in the head that allowed me to see through objects, including clothing, that was at first scary being I went blind for a few seconds and couldn't see, at all then my vision split and I could see inside of things, so you tell me is the time of mans re-arrangement of self and Identity coming you bet.

Xray vision is real, it's switching the brainwaves around in the head, I felt as though I had something on my head, when I could see through things, perhaps this was just the halo they were manipulating.

But I could LITERALLY SEE THROUGH THINGS. I could see through solid objects. Like walls and such.

In a sense you could say our world is a Holographic Projection through a different mode of perception.

I am living proof of that experiment.

They did this to either embarrass me in public or to make me aware it was both. My face was red.

That experiment of course becoming something beyond the normal range of human. And maybe we are learning what it is to see as space beings see.


I remember some native american guy saying "Todays white man is tommorrows Green man"

Perhaps, but I know this isn't just happening in the White race. It's happening all over the world.

Was the 'mode of perception' Extraterrestrial Vision, and how they see the world.

When my vision was altered I could definately see the light differential when it was being changed it changed green for a (split second) and then everything turned normal light but transparent.

It is like you are viewing everything optically through four lenses, then everything from the sides known as peripheral vision came into the front.

You decide who WE are ? Are we just a bunch of extraterrestrials under this holographic projection of human flesh.




[edit on 29-7-2008 by menguard]

Originally posted by menguard
This is something else I am going to talk on, I was in a grocery store and one of my space guides switched frequencies in my brain which is alternating the electrical current in the head that allowed me to see through objects, including clothing, that was at first scary being I went blind for a few seconds and couldn't see, at all then my vision split and I could see inside of things, so you tell me is the time of mans re-arrangement of self and Identity coming you bet.

Xray vision is real, it's switching the brainwaves around in the head, I felt as though I had something on my head, when I could see through things, perhaps this was just the halo they were manipulating.

But I could LITERALLY SEE THROUGH THINGS. I could see through solid objects. Like walls and such.

In a sense you could say our world is a Holographic Projection through a different mode of perception.

I am living proof of that experiment.

They did this to either embarrass me in public or to make me aware it was both. My face was red.

That experiment of course becoming something beyond the normal range of human. And maybe we are learning what it is to see as space beings see.


I remember some native american guy saying "Todays white man is tommorrows Green man"

Perhaps, but I know this isn't just happening in the White race. It's happening all over the world.

Was the 'mode of perception' Extraterrestrial Vision, and how they see the world.

When my vision was altered I could definately see the light differential when it was being changed it changed green for a (split second) and then everything turned normal light but transparent.

It is like you are viewing everything optically through four lenses, then everything from the sides known as peripheral vision came into the front.

You decide who WE are ? Are we just a bunch of extraterrestrials under this holographic projection of human flesh.




[edit on 29-7-2008 by menguard]

Added some more to this, hope this enlightens a few. We are undercover to ourselves in this frequency.

I just got done reading through this whole thread and I have to say, johnmike, my hat is off to you. Thanks for bringing logic, reason and most importantly knowledge to this ridiculous topic. In all the pages of this whole entire mess of a thread, you are the only one to have brought proof of your claims to the table.

Muzzleflash was right. Why don't you guys crack a book and append your knowledge instead of disgarding any information that does not fit into your theories? It really doesn't take that long to learn how DNA really works, and once armed with that knowledge, you would realize how ridiculous this thread really is. Seriously. Each additional claim to refute johnmike's science grows more ludicrous by the page. Some of you even refute his claims saying he can't do it because he doesn't believe and other rubbish. This is all good if your living in Never Never Land, but here in reality, the idea of junk DNA is absurd.

I believe he is referring to Buckminster Fullers Synergetics and the closest packing of spheres force vector matrices as being the architecture of the universe when he refers to "Pyramids" Icosahedra and such.

The layers and numbers seem to indicate that as the probable origin of this mess.

[edit on 29-7-2008 by Cyberbian]

Originally posted by menguard
Not all science will register, what's out there, to complicate things further you cannot top the Nano-technology of an alien species, but that dna correlates to something so small and minute it comes from a spiritual helix.

Science helps on some topics and complicates others. If one knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that there body is just that a thoughtform, think of the wonders that they can do.

"Science" isn't a set of beliefs. It's almost insulting that you're using it like that. Science is simply the application of logic to your understanding of the world around you. Do you believe in something? Why? Is your reasoning valid, can you back it up? That's science - along with questioning things you would normally accept.

Originally posted by menguard
JohnMike just curious have you ever experienced anything outside of the linearworld? Anything at ALL.

Depends on how you mean it. I haven't hallucinated, or seen anything, if that's what you mean. I've had strange coincidences, I've gotten through things against powerful odds, but that's about it. Nothing magical, and nothing proveable. Just like everyone else.

Originally posted by menguard
The cell of nucluetide is all you need to replicate something out there in space. That's called cloning.

Oh, Christ, you don't even know what a nucleotide is. Do you really mean to tell me that through this whole time you haven't spent ten minutes just learning what the basic structure of DNA is?

I'm not going to write a textbook page just to rid you of your own ignorance. Spend five minutes on Wikipedia to do that.

...But...in the universe, we have atoms. Right? Okay, these atoms are bound together to form molecules. These molecules are things like water, like soap, alcohol... These molecules are compounds of atoms. Then these molecules are held together to make solids and liquids, due to a couple kinds of forces I'm not going into (hydrogen bonding, london dispersion, polar...). That's why you can't move your hand through a solid cup.

Then we have organic molecules. The body uses these. They're just the same as water, basically. DNA is a molecule like this. But it's important to your body, and is very large and complex. Like proteins. In fact, scientists before Watson and Crick used to believe that DNA was a protein!

Now, DNA is made of many, many atoms. While water has three, a DNA molecule has thousands! This is very, very long. What we do is break it down into parts. I'm not going into the exact structure, but the "sides" of the ladder are the backbone to the DNA. This doesn't contain any information.

Connected to each side of the ladder (half of each "step" if you know what I mean) is a nucleotide - and this nucleotide pairs up with another specific nucleotide on the other end. Like a lock and a key. These nucleotides are what our genes are made of - your genetic code. Your body can copy it during cell division by unraveling your DNA helix (well, the section that is going to be copies), breaking it apart, and reading and copying the code, all using enzymes! Look up mitosis for more details.

Now, remember how I said that each nucleotide pairs up with another? That means that each side of the double helix, each side of the ladder, has the same exact genetic code. Even if you had 12 strands (and you don't), it would be the same exact genetic information! The only reason we have two stranded linear DNA instead of circular, single-stranded DNA like bacteria, is that it's a data backup! Like a RAID 1 array, if you're familiar with data mirroring. Your body is constantly scanning your DNA with enzymes. And since DNA can be damaged, through radiation, errors in cell division, and so on, these enzymes can detect nucleotide mismatches and repair your genetic code using the information from the undamaged side. Amazing!

[edit on 30-7-2008 by Johnmike]