Well, interesting thread. I see some people are doing what I've been doing for quite a while.
As some people here know I've gotten some rather dramatic effects from my work.
For me there are three mediators.
o Sleep Deprivation;
o Fasting and Diet.
These are combined or sometimes the result of an event, usually involving stress. (sometimes the stress is a good event).
It's gotten to the point where every three months I go into a different 'mode' for about 20 days.
I think this 20 day period is important as it coincides with something called
Some of the things I do using exhaustion (mentioned above
1. Every few months I'll locate a cycling route that is just above my ability to complete. I do take a safety net these days after getting into
trouble a couple times. I'll have a friend drive me out to the location (I live in a hilly area), and drop me off, then they'll meet me at
designated points and as long as I'm doing OK, I'll keep going.
2. Another type which is similarly extreme is I'll have a friend take me out of town and drop me off or into the mountains and drop me off. I'll
either run (in my youth I did this a lot) or cycle or hike back home or to the base location. This is fun. You want to try and pick a distance so that
you barely make it back, but again, don't try this at home (i.e. use a safety net and work up to it).
3. Time trial. Every few months I'll do an individual time trial and see how high I can push my PR over a 10 mile or one hour course.
Now certainly these are 'exhaustion based' but they are also 'fear modulation based'. IOW, as you learn what your limits are and try to push past
them, there is always the fear that you might fail.
One of the best ways to test this is on a road bike. You attack a long mountain pass and you either make the summit or you nearly die trying. It's
much harder to stop and try to walk, and if you stop you know it's almost impossible to start going again, depending on your route.
With running or walking it's pretty easy to stop but on a bike it's harder to stop, so, imo, you can push yourself further.
I use this during my 20 day periods, or to be more precise, I stop having the need to sleep. I always try to have good nutrition when I'm doing this
and I do take an occasional nap of about two hours. You can really manipulate certain hormones with this method. It's hard to tell someone how to do
it, because it requires individual experience. Suffice it to say that during certain phases of sleep, human growth hormone peaks, especially if
you're stressing the body.
Diet and Fasting
Many effects which might be modulated are actually quite reachable, but I think biofeedback in your body can be blunted if you're eating too much. I
tend to go to about a 1200 calorie diet, and even lower, but I keep my protein intake up at about 0.8gm/lb of body weight. (See PSMF for methods).
I still take supplements and vitamins during this phase and I still drink liquids.
So, by combining certain types of stress along with diet, specific exercising challenges and sleep modification, I've learned how to bring on this
OK, sorry for the verbosity. Again, good thread, I'll be trying some of these.
Oh, one thing...imo meditation is good, but I prefer to start with 'moving meditation'. After that the body just wants to be still. Then is the time
when you do stationary meditation.
I'll replay my exercising and cycling and visualize the route and the ride. This takes me into some interesting mental states.
Oh, one other thing is I've been experimenting with acting techniques. IOW, not acting on a stage, but literally becoming someone else. It's kind of
strange, but it's very liberating. I could talk about it some more if anyone's interested.
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