How many honest mistakes does it take to reveal an agenda?

This is at least my 3rd time of cold bustin' your ass.

But my meds are working today - I'll let it slide again.

Soon you will be able to retire off you're ATS points heh.

I understand at least some states are finding Chavez fairly attractive now.

I even like some of his real estate.


I also like spaces between my sentences.

Originally posted by burdman30ott6
I simply find it fascinating that the government is criticized for not having NORAD activated and not shooting down the planes... until the idea that maybe they did shoot down one of the planes surfaces and then they are still criticized. Here's a brand new rope, I believe you know what to do with it, even though we all know it will still not please you.

They are being criticized for shooting it down and lying about it -- I think. Not for shooting it down.

However, I think it was shot down AFTER they realized the passengers had taken control. The scenario where the bad guys and passengers are fighting over the controls makes no sense -- if you are trying to fly the plane and someone is hitting you in the head -- you lose pretty quickly. Flying a plane straight in the air can be accomplished by almost anyone. If the Nose Dive were a last-ditch attempt by the bad guy to stop the passengers -- well, they would be too busy falling to do much now wouldn't they? So the passengers took back control, and the plane would then be flying straight. IF, this happened at all.

The crash site does not look like ANY debris field I've seen in other photos of planes. And why no reassembled plane as is usual in these cases?

>> I also believe that perhaps we should consider that building 7 was the target -- not the White House and the call the "Pull the Building" was made when they realized that no plane would be coming to fly into it, and if they waited much longer, it would stretch the credulity of the American public which is thankfully, pretty gullible as it is.

Flagged and starred. Ever since watching United 93 or w/e that movie was I was overwhelmed with pride, then I started reading a little "truth" and realized it for what it was.

Originally posted by noangels
Love the bitter twisted vultures here gloating over the corpse of DD's error!Good job their not mods

I dont believe this story in the slightest,and thought something was wrong when i read it in the papers earlier this week

Only the fat Bin laden actor has admitted to the 9/11 attacks and all of a sudden we have someone else saying he planned it!Pure BS,If Bin Laden did plan it then He would have boasted as soon as he could!

He came out and said he had nothing to do with it right after the attacks

This story is rubbish and is designed to be another link between the attacks and the long dead Bin laden

I think this is plausible.

Hamden is either telling the truth as he knows it, or he is lying and helping out our government.

Lying to help out A Q makes no sense.

>> I'm pretty sure Bin Laden was killed in December of 2001. Which is what that lady said on Charlie Rose a couple of weeks before she was assassinated in Pakistan. But an un-findable Bogey man is the best thing of all. You can have him say he endorses Senator Obama just before the election and not have a living Osama to disagree.

But I don't know much of what A Q would or wouldn't do. Bush increased their financing budget within the CIA the first year he was in office. They have a Saudi Prince at the head of an organization, that seems to organize the rage against the Saudi leadership to waste their time trying to overthrow Saddam Hussein. "al Qaeda" means "the base" or perhaps a CIA database. Other than helping to bankrupt the soviets in Afghanistan, and work for the CIA -- we don't know much about this outfit.

I suspect that some spook just convinced a few of their operatives to do this job against America -- that is the extent of any foreign involvement. The lead hijacker's girlfriend (a stripper), was interviewed on some HBO special talking about his training (at an airstrip that was a CIA drop) and the partying they did before undergoing their mission. The press also, for a time, talked about they hypocrisy of Religious fundamentalists going to strip clubs before dying for Allah.

What happened to that story? I guess it flew in the face of the "they hate us for our freedoms" line that worked so well.

This is all just marketing. I don't have any clue what the truth is -- its' just like the Iraq war -- all focus group nonsense. If the people are worried about WMDs -- then that is the reason. If they like Democracy, liberation, or peace -- use those as well. Once we are in -- we can't "abandon" Iraqis -- you mean we cared about them so much we invaded them on false pretenses? We can't impeach Bush during a war. Now we can't impeach Bush because the elections are coming up. It's all a stalling tactic until they grab more power, and have added more money to their pockets. They are consolidating power, while we keep trying to rationally explain things and let the system work.

WE won't know that the system has failed to work or that we are up Sh!ts creek without a paddle until it is too late to do anything about it. When the invasion of Iran is underway, we will have so many angry people after us, we will be forced to choose a side.

When all of us "Truthers" are proven right -- none of us are going to get much joy over it. All the economic systems will fail so that one Bank will emerge -- with privatized profits and socialized losses. The Airlines are failing, and will continue until there are no unions. The magically become profitable and we won't need all those security checks.

Terrorism was sure great to get rid of Unions and free speech, eh?

Every "failure" helps them. Disaster capitalism. And we sit around trying to "figure out" what they are doing. By the time we have all the answers someone will be shouting "duck!"

If the Prosecutor is claiming that the US military down the plane, and most importantly, that the defendent over heard Osama Bin Laden speaking about this plane in a conversation, I have just one question:

- If the government planned this entire conspiracy, and with Osama Bin Laden saying he never took part in 9/11, then how did the defendent over hear Osama speak about this then?

There are so many twists and ties in 9/11, we'll never know what is really going on.

Bin laden what he got to do with it.
the only people in the whole world believing the official fairy tales are Americans

and that is because their news is propaganda and they don't see world news.

AlCIAda is a terrorist grouped formed by America.

911 was perpetrated to warrant going into IRAQ and launching a blood lust for oil. and a oil pipline from the Caspian basin.

The Russians beat the neocons to it . neocons left holding the bag and Russians left holding the oil .

[edit on 25-7-2008 by winged patriot]

Way to copy 2 other posts dude!

Nice (dugg down)

On 9/11 I was signing off on some ABF truck bills with the driver
his cell phone ring.He took the call It was his son.He told his son to get a grip on his self he did what he was to do thats your job and you did the right thing.After gatting off the phone the drive I know well was trearing up .He said his son and 3 others were scrambled from a base to take out a airliner they did he thinks it was ome of his missles that took it out.I told him he did the right thing. today I still remember the look on that mans face after that call.I know this happened and no one could change my mind of what I heard.

I heard about this site from someone who frequetly comes here. He told me about all the 9/11 threads that discuss flight 93 being shot down. My cousin lives near shanksville and actually saw the plane crash. He told me there was no indication it was shot down. He saw the actual crash. He said he had never been so scared in his life. Also as the poster above said the mining scar and the place the plane crashed are indeed two different places. The mining scar is actually quite a distance from the actual site the plane crashed. The poster above me is full of %^$*. It was not shot down. You can speculate all you want however I prefer to believe my cousin when it comes to this. All you people that claim that the plane was shot down cheapen what those people on the plane actually did that day.. They potentially saved thousands of other lives by taking there own.