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Topic started on 23-7-2008 @ 05:05 PM by alienstar
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Starving bears eat 2 men in Russia
news.yahoo.com
 MOSCOW - A pack of enormous bears searching for food killed and ate two men at mines in Russia's Pacific Kamchatka region and have kept
hundreds of geologists and miners from reaching the mine, news agencies reported Wednesday. (visit the link for the full news article)
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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 05:05 PM by alienstar
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Kinda interesting..i know in large groups around a dump or fishing for salmon,bears can stand being around each other.This make it sound like a pack
of wolves.
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(visit the link for the full news article)
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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 05:37 PM by princeofpeace
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The Russian bear was only sleeping........
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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 05:39 PM by EverythingYouDespise
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It's interesting that you psoted this today because I'd just heard a report on the radio about how some fireman in California rescued a bear from
the forest fires there. I immediately thought, "Huh?! Why the heck are they trying to rescue dangerous predators who might maul humans? Let
'em burn!"
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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 05:43 PM by resistor
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Fish poaching on the tundra? Who knew there was fish in tundra? Now mosquito poaching I could believe.
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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 06:02 PM by Heike
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It's my opinion that humans are the most dangerous predators on Earth.
A bear can't understand that a human is any different than any other animal which doesn't have adequate protection from predation. They are just
trying to survive and, as opportunistic omnivores, they will eat anything they can catch and overpower. "Moral" outrage is pointless; bears aren't
capable of morality.
I also believe that humans do not have the right to exterminate all other animals on the planet who happen to be a potential threat to humans. We can,
and do, keep them out of 'our' territory, and it behooves us to stay out of theirs.
If you're a bear and some animal is taking all the fish so that there isn't anything for you to eat, what are you going to do? Eating the animals
who ate the fish seems like a reasonable solution to me.
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reply posted on 25-7-2008 @ 02:13 PM by EverythingYouDespise
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Originally posted by Heike
It's my opinion that humans are the most dangerous predators on Earth. 
And if we want to keep it that way we can't go around giving concessions to lesser animals.
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reply posted on 25-7-2008 @ 02:26 PM by _Phoenix_
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What makes some humans appear lesser is your way of thinking.
Oh yes your so superior, let's kill innocent animals because we are better than them, who cares about the animals and nature yeah let's just become
evil demons with no compassion, we rule this world why should we care about mere animals.
I'm sorry but from reading your posts, I almost feel like you wish we as humans should become more like evil demon gods, instead of loving
compassionate humans.
The beauty of animals and nature is what keeps this world beautiful, it's what keeps us sane, wipe all that out and we have nothing but sadness, you
may not understand compassion, love etc. You may not understand the human and animal connection. But it is important.
[edit on 25-7-2008 by _Phoenix_]
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reply posted on 25-7-2008 @ 03:58 PM by Badge01
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Really. I'm rooting for the pack of Bears. (go Bears).
Seriously, though, how lame is that - one of the most powerful countries on Earth has to resort to killing their precious wildlife?
Hell, build a freaking fence fer gawds sake.
They should film these bears and sell the stock footage to John Carpenter and use the movie revenues to finance the fence (or a similar defensive
construct)
Or (duh) bring the bears some salmon. Surely Russian officials can find some food for them. I'm already morning these beautiful creatures. What a
loss this would be. SOMEBODY stop them
From the video page below. Bolding, mine
  Paradeiza – easy hunting ground The Kamchatka brown bear is one of the world's largest, with males growing to around three metres (10ft)
and weighing up to 700kg (1,540lb). They can also reach speeds of up to 48km/h (30mph) despite their size. The Kamchatka peninsula, nine timezones
east of Moscow and twice the size of Britain, is home to an estimated 16,000 bears. They are generally peaceful and feed on salmon in
Kamchatka's rivers 
(29 min)
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reply posted on 25-7-2008 @ 07:37 PM by pikypiky
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They were rescuing a baby bear, the size of a human infant. And from the looks of a video, the baby bear was in much pain. Yes, it may be a predator
but it didn't have huge teeth that would hurt people. Later on, a fireman had cradled this critter in his arms for comfort.
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reply posted on 25-7-2008 @ 07:56 PM by _Phoenix_
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Don't bother trying to explain, it won't change him.
From reading his posts, I can tell he simply lacks compassion, feelings and love to other living beings, including humans. He only cares about his own
needs, BUT he did say he feels for criminals....which is rather odd.
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reply posted on 3-8-2008 @ 05:16 AM by bDaedal4ever
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Originally posted by alienstar
Kinda interesting..i know in large groups around a dump or fishing for salmon,bears can stand being around each other.This make it sound like a pack
of wolves. 
I know what you mean. I lived in Alaska for a little while. At the dump I would throw oranges at the bears to try and move them away so I could back
up the truck without hurting one of them (and them hurting me). Mostly young bears in packs but a few adult black bears. Brown bears I usually stay
away from. They're too unpredictable and deserve increased respect. At the spawning grounds, thousands of salmon would be dying at the end of
their run. Hardly ever a bear. They like to catch 'em before the spawn.
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