"NWO is bad" = Disinformation?

I tend to stay away from the NWO / illuminati / secret society bent on ruling the world threads because most of them are just beyond ridiculous. Almost all of the threads are basically: RUN AWAY...THEY WILL KILL US ALL threads.

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Why is the NWO such a bad thing? This planet is screwed until we abolish 2 things. Independent governments and religion.

Countries with imports and exports. If there was 1 ruling government, things could be much better. Instead of worrying about YOUR country, you'd be more inclined to worry about YOUR planet. I mean am I wrong? Would poverty and hunger become more of a priority? Food grown all over the world shipped into the needing countries, sure that happens today, but not on a large scale, not on a scale that it NEEDS to be done on.

Religion gives people 2 things; Hope and Hate. Sure there is a hope, but also a hate, don't deny it. If a large population has to be taken out in order to correct it, so be it.

On a side note, space exploration is also screwed until more resources can be put into it. Instead of having bits and pieces from said country put into 1 project, you could have a country dedicated to space exploration. Instead of making a commute to work, you could live in your professional country. (and your thinking, BUT IT'LL BE RUN LIKE CHINA, why do you think that? If you have 1 government vs 6 billion people...whos gonna win?)

Just because its a one world government does not mean that it cannot be a democracy, hell half of the democracies in the world as it stands now, are not real democracies.

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NWO is bad = Disinformation? Would would NOT benefit from a one world government, ask that question. My guess would be those currently in power.




[edit on 23-7-2008 by 30 Seconds]

Star and Flag for you, i agree with the NWO thoery in certain aspects*. Its like America, good idea gone bad. There are a lot of aspects about the NWO that would benefit this planet a lot. People need to take the good, although i do disagree with some aspects of the NWO theory.

Fox


*if some one hasnt called me a sheeple within 5 posts Its a mircle.

[edit on 23-7-2008 by ProTo Fire Fox]

The problem I have with it is that I am afraid our civil liberties will be suspended if power is concentrated within one entity.

We are seeing much of this today around the globe. Two examples from today's news include China warning the media not to broadcast certain types of advertising during the olympics, including things like Viagra or any item that is critical of China's sovereignty or it's response to the earthquakes.

Another news item from today is the scary behavior of the TSA. Several months ago a woman was forced to remove her nipple rings in front of TSA agents because they set off the metal detector, and now there are stories of strip searching disabled persons in clear view of other people, and continuous groping and fondling of women.

I found these stories on Google news today, but honestly I am too lazy to post them.

I know that China and TSA don't constitute a New World Order but if things like this are happening on a small scale what can we expect globally?

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Oh, and PS... SHEEPLE! SHEEPLE!

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One of the big reasons why the NWO would be a bad thing is that it is one government ruling the world. A NWO could be a good thing on paper, but we all know that it would be instated without our interests taken into consideration. The whole idea of a NWO fundamentally takes more power out of the peoples hands. The vision of the NWO that i see is one that's similar to the 'democracy' we have in the US. And we all know how well that works... The only difference is the scale between the two and any influence we have on the government now would just be muffled out by the sheer size of that government. All that comes out of it is even more control and power over the masses. All this will be good for is being MORE able to exploit MORE people.

You've voiced a opinion I've been tossing around for a while now. I can remember hearing about people wanting a lot of the ideals that NWO supposedly stands for.
When I asked someone, they replied "Yeah, but they're doing it wrong."
So, take from that what you want, if it does come about (something I kinda doubt) I think I'll try not to let my knee jerk to much.
It seems, like a lot of things, theres a lot of Pro's that go with the Cons, but people are limited to the cons.
Things do need to change, but like in my old home town, the people who speak about it, don't seem to be doing much of anything.

Yes ive looked into this myself.Alot.
The fact remains one world government = 1 person ruling the whole world.
No matter how you try and excuse it.
There is no more debate, no more discussion, no more negotiations.
What they say goes.Can you imagine that?
1 person telling ALL people what to do?
When you think about the positive things such as, no more international private banking cartels, because after all now there is only 1 currency.
The negative far outweighs the positive because now all the food and water on the whole planet, will be owned by these people.
You could not even go out into a forest and catch your food because it belongs to them.You couldn't catch a fish.In fact they may just patent the intellectual property rights to the idea of food.So you need to pay them just in order to eat.Before you even have any food yet.
In fact that one person who owns the whole earth and all its inhabitants, now owns the oxygen to.
Can you imagine needing a permit to breath?
And when you disagree with them, they revoke your permit.
You may think this is all absurdity and silliness, it sure sounds it.
But logically speaking in total reality this is what power it gives them total complete control over all people alive and all people who will ever be born.
And no one ever again to tell them, NO.

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You've got to kidding right ? If your not, your sadly mistaken , if you think there would not be a central bank operating much the same way your wrong. The populace would also give up their arms because of world peace right? BS, you would now have a world force keeping the serfs in line and if you didn't go along your cashless money chip would be useless. You'd be a renegade. This idea generally is accepted by people who don't think fro themselves.

Originally posted by Swingarm
This idea generally is accepted by people who don't think fro themselves.

Righ that is getting counted as a sheeple claim so I'm saying that my prediction was right It was the fifth post after me afterall. Any way on a more serious note. There are a lot of good ideologies when it comes to the New World Order; so of these great properties of this are --

· No war, except for the obvious NWO surportors against the Anti-NWO people; but overall zero country wars on a gaint scale.
· High possibily of food, water and health care being shared out through out the world. This would/could solve some major issues that are effeting us.
· Since the population will be happy and content, the chances of disclosure of aliens and other life forms could be shown now that we are not as hostile.

The super-massive con to this, as aforementioned is the power of a world being in the hands of one man/women.

Fox

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care to comment on any of the other things I said ? You advocate mass socialism. Sorry I don't go for that.

I believe in time it will be found that the head of all that "NWO is bad" stuff wasn't disinformaion as much as it was properganda.

Too many people are not that smart, but they like to think they are. So all a really smart person needs to do is spin a topic to get people riled up.

Here's what I prepose. I say that the real dangerious "families" are those that would hide behind Islam culture. And knowing they'll never be in power they spin that NWO properganda in the hopes that all the stupid people will align with them against their own government. Those people are being played through their own paranoia.

Im not sure who is quoted as saying this but it goes like this "power corrupts but absolute power corrupts absolutely." There is a lot of truth to that. I dont like the idea of one small group of people controlling this world. I think I like choices. Just like any free market I want choices. So a one world under one government is not a good thing. In a Utopia it would be but people will abuse that kind of power I mean hell look at the abuses now and it is just to great of a risk.

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It was Winston Churchill I believe. We are marching toward one.

Here are some more quote dealing with the wonderful NWO

"We are not going to achieve a new world order without paying for it in blood as well as in words and money." Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., in Foreign Affairs (July/August 1995)

THAT quotation and the following - and many others like them - clearly demonstrate that the words "new world order" are deadly serious and furthermore, have been in use for decades. They did not originate with President George Bush in 1990. The "old world order" is one based on independent nation-states. The "new world order" involves the elimination of the sovereignty and independence of nation-states and some form of world government. This means the end of the United States of America, the U.S. Constitution, and the Bill of Rights as we now know them. Most of the new world order proposals involve the conversion of the United Nations and its agencies to a world government, complete with a world army, a world parliament, a world court, global taxation, and numerous other agencies to control every aspect of human life (education, nutrition, health care, population, immigration, communications, transportation, commerce, agriculture, finance, the environment, etc.). The various notions of the "new world order" differ as to details and scale, but agree on the basic principle and substance.
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"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order [referring to the 1991 LA Riot]. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond [i.e., an "extraterrestrial" invasion], whether real or *promulgated* [emphasis mine], that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this *scenario*, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government." Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991

"The drive of the Rockefeller's and their allies is to create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control.... Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent." Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976, killed in the Korean Airlines 747 that was shot down by the Soviets

"We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries." David Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral Commission, in an address to a meeting of The Trilateral Commission, in June, 1991.

"The idea was that those who direct the overall conspiracy could use the differences in those two so-called ideologies [marxism/fascism/socialism v. democracy/capitalism] to enable them [the Illuminati] to divide larger and larger portions of the human race into opposing camps so that they could be armed and then brainwashed into fighting and destroying each other." Myron Fagan

"No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation." David Spangler, Director of Planetary Initiative, United Nations

"In March, 1915, the J.P. Morgan interests, the steel, shipbuilding, and powder interest, and their subsidiary organizations, got together 12 men high up in the newspaper world and employed them to select the most influential newspapers in the United States and sufficient number of them to control generally the policy of the daily press....They found it was only necessary to purchase the control of 25 of the greatest papers.

"An agreement was reached; the policy of the papers was bought, to be paid for by the month; an editor was furnished for each paper to properly supervise and edit information regarding the questions of preparedness, militarism, financial policies, and other things of national and international nature considered vital to the interests of the purchasers." U.S. Congressman Oscar Callaway, 1917

"The world can therefore seize the opportunity [Persian Gulf crisis] to fulfill the long-held promise of a New World Order where diverse nations are drawn together in common cause to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind." George Herbert Walker Bush

"In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty wasn't such a great idea after all." Strobe Talbot, President Clinton's Deputy Secretary of State, as quoted in Time, July 20th, l992.

"We shall have world government whether or not you like it, by conquest or consent." Statement by Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) member James Warburg to The Senate Foreign Relations Committee on February 17th, l950

"The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes." Benjamin Disraeli, first Prime Minister of England, in a novel he published in 1844 called Coningsby, the New Generation






[edit on 24-7-2008 by Swingarm]

i think its a double edged sword. is some repects, a growing population will eventually outgrow it's resources and then what? so population control makes sense.
consolidation always looks good on paper but what would be in the way of them ruling the world malevolently when they have it all to play with?