Who made eating pork and swine flesh lawful for Christians?, page 3
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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 01:03 PM by Trance Optic
Religiously OFFENSIVE! DO not Read If Your a Drone, a Hardcore Devout Whatever, Or you have Your grandma from the Old Country behind you, This Will be taken Harsh to many, But Im just Using My Free Speech


If You eat ANYTHING! Your eating Bywaste from other animals.

Havent thought of that one yet have you? Things dont grow without Fertile soil, How does soil become Fertile? lol The decaying of Bio waste, Which is Dead animals, Waste from animals, Waste from Everything else makes it way down the sappling of your favorite fruit or veggie, Not to mention if You eat meat now a days, you might not wanna go check out where your meat is being processed, You'll prolly eat cardboard for the rest of your days. An even that has Filth in it.

I swear these Redundant sayings of Moses and Jesus or EVen Dare I say, GOD are Down right Filth.

I mean If our Waste Makes Plants grow. Then Why would he say not to eat Swine? Plus from what I understand Pigs arent as dirty as You think, Their Pretty clean animals. Unless You Lick the Skin of a pig after it just had a mud bath, But then again a cow after giving birth to a caff is pretty filthy too, so Im pretty safe to say all your other animals are Filthy.

We Live, sleep, and Eat In Filth From what the Bible says, Im sorry But If I wanted that kind of dribble thats been messed up an retorted thruout the days, I'll play a game with My kids... Maybe Telephone? We live on earth that is dirty, Dirt is one of the only reasons we can stay on this planet. An Guess what dirt is made of! LOL

Heres where I lost contact with the Christian religion.
Where do animals go when they Die? Oh what Not heaven? Too good heaven is for all the other animals who helped mankind live many many many many many Centuries on this planet thru the death of themselves or the fur off their back. Yeah Once I found that out, I realized How DUped I was.

Pork Grinds anyone, Chops Ala King? , Hotdogs? BACON!


reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 01:09 PM by DazE777
reply to post by spitefulgod



I thought the exact thing when I read the Thread title.

I don't know bout's you guys, but swine is divine. I couldn't fathome Sunday breakfast without a few crispy pieces of bacon.

My GOD loves pork related products.


reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 01:10 PM by TheOneEyedProphet
as some of you have wisely said, it all comes down to common sense, first, one must be aware of the historical moment, and the advance in now "common technologies"

in the old testament, in leviticus, deuteronomy and numbers et al, were meant to be a rough guide to health and issues common in THOSE times.
as it has been said pork is a meat that spoils very quickly, those people didn't cook their meats properly, thus many died intoxicated by spoiled meat, same as shellfish, which is also forbidden by the same reasons, they spoiled quickly!!
they didn't have refrigerators back then, science, or the advances and understandings of the world were things that only the RULING castes had, and they kept that knowledge for themselves, as a tool for control, people were expected to OBEY without questioning, the law of g_d was meant to be accepted without explanation.




3 Thou shalt not eat any abominable thing.

These are the beasts which ye shall eat: the ox, the sheep, and the goat,
5 The hart, and the roebuck, and the fallow deer, and the wild goat, and the pygarg, and the wild ox, and the chamois.

6 And every beast that parteth the hoof, and cleaveth the cleft into two claws, and cheweth the cud among the beasts, that ye shall eat.

7 Nevertheless these ye shall not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the cloven hoof; as the camel, and the hare, and the coney: for they chew the cud, but divide not the hoof; therefore they are unclean unto you.

8 And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it is unclean unto you: ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcase.

9 These ye shall eat of all that are in the waters: all that have fins and scales shall ye eat:

10 And whatsoever hath not fins and scales ye may not eat; it is unclean unto you.

11 Of all clean birds ye shall eat.

12 But these are they of which ye shall not eat: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,

13 And the glede, and the kite, and the vulture after his kind,

14 And every raven after his kind,

15 And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind,

16 The little owl, and the great owl, and the swan,

17 And the pelican, and the gier eagle, and the cormorant,

18 And the stork, and the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.

19 And every creeping thing that flieth is unclean unto you: they shall not be eaten.


18 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:

19 Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;

20 And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.

21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.



etc...



www.carm.org...

There are many things like that in the bible, I'm sure you know what i'm talking about, so a question to the !true" xtians, when your loved ones have their period, do you keep away from them for a month? do you not touch them until they become "pure" again?

do you also avoid getting in the shadow of a boat because the devil lives there?
in that case you might as well be Jews NOT Xtians, as they believe in the old testament as law, amongst other books..

Strangely enough, i was told by a Rabbi, that those books were meant as a guide only, that times had changed and that common sense had to be applied , that the scripture was not meant to be taken literally, go figure!
on another train of thought, you must also believe that marijuana must be legal because it bears seeds right? and god "said" that all plants that bear seeds are gifts from him to us, how thoughtful!


[edit on 23-7-2008 by TheOneEyedProphet]


reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 02:58 PM by Thebudweiserstuntman
www.islamicmedicine.org...

"Prohibition of the flesh of swine (pork) :

The Moslem is submissive to Allah’s commands even if the underlying wisdom is not yet revealed."

There is no scientific references or examples given in the link, with the medical dude admitting there's no real logic for it in the qu'ran, it just seems like anti-western propaganda


reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 03:14 PM by queenofangels_17
reply to post by Missing Blue Sky



Missingbluesky,

I'm not criticizing my neighbor here. I follow Jesus' examples and true teachings. My only concern here is what if it's not Jesus who made eating pork lawful but some disciples who came after him and attributed it to Jesus?

Because it is clear from Jesus' teachings that he still considered some meat unclean.

Truly I say to you, that on the day of judgment many shall say to God: "Lord, we have preached and taught by your Law." Against them even the stones shall cry out, saying: "When you preached to others, with your own tongue you condemned yourselves, O workers of iniquity." "As God lives," said Jesus, "he who knows the truth and works the contrary shall be punished with such grievous penalty that Satan shall almost have compassion on him. Tell me, now has our God given us the Law for knowing or for working? Truly I say to you, that all knowledge has for end that wisdom which works all it knows. "Tell me, if one were sitting at table and with his eyes beheld delicate meats, but with his hands should choose unclean things and eat those, would not he be mad?" "Yes, assuredly," said the disciples.

Then Jesus said: "O mad beyond all madmen are you, O man, that with your understanding know heaven, and with your hands choose earth; with your understanding know God, and with your affection desire the world; with your understanding know the delights of paradise, and with your works choose the miseries of hell. Brave soldier, that leaves the sword and carries the scabbard to fight! Now, know you not that he who walks by night desires light, not only to see the light, but rather to see the good road, in order that he may pass safely to the inn?

O miserable world, to be a thousand times despised and abhorred! since our God by his holy prophets has ever willed to grant it to know the way to go to his country and his rest: but you, wicked one, not only wiliest not to go, but, which is worse, have despised the light! True is the proverb of the camel, that it likes not clear water to drink, because it desires not to see its own ugly face. So does the ungodly who works ill; for he hates the light lest his evil works should be known. But he who receives wisdom, and not only works not well, but, which is worse, employs it for evil, is like to him who should use the gifts as instruments to slay the giver."

Peace!
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