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Who made eating pork and swine flesh lawful for Christians?

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posted on Jan, 4 2009 @ 04:08 PM
What if he knew it was bad for your health, and that is all. He couldn't explain why and shouldn't need to right, your supposed to trust in what god says not question him.

I'm not religious, and i do not beleive in 'Religion' but i believe that there was something behind it all, a test or an experiemnet. It makes perfect sense to me but i am a little overactive in the ideas dept. Genesis - Genetics, thats where i beleive that part started, Adam and eve being the Testube babies of their time ( well we can clone things cant we). Before that i'd go with the sumerians story, ha,ha, I do not buy the creationist thing either. The world was here long before Adam and Eve, billions of years, if other civilizations pre-date Adam and Eve - Maybe its their Experiment.

posted on Jan, 4 2009 @ 04:58 PM
reply to post by greshnik

I agree that fasting for a while every year, or as I do it, I never eat too much and in periods I don't eat at all. I tend to quench the hunger feelings through either drawing, painting, writing or studying the bible or some other ancient manuscript.

But the main reason pigs are counted as unclean meat or being an unclean animal, is that it doesn't chew the cud like sheep and cows do. This methodology can't have come from God at Horeb, it's ancient and had to do with the danger of dicease. Pork like dogs have a danger of having a high level of tricnines in the blood and meat, so to be sure you must eat it straight after it's been slaughtered and you must fry it broken. They didn't have the technology we have today to check if their meat was healthy and their storage possibilities were not out of this world. But these days there is no sensible reason as to why we shouldn't eat any kind of meat. But I would stear away from killer animals to avoid infecteous diseases which is carried by blood.

posted on Jan, 5 2009 @ 11:49 AM
Another thing. The ancient Hebrews practised a kind of apatheid just like in Israel today one might say. The Heb. "goyim" (geniles, "nations"), or for instance male temple prostitutes who offered their bottoms for certain people of the latter (heb. "qadesh") which led to the laws homophobes without linguistic or historic or paleantropologica indisia claims prohibits homosexuality in general and that gays thereby should suffer the same judgement, the capital one, or the Heb. "haral" (the uncircumcised), well they were all concidered unclean in one way or the other. Their cultural philosophy included much of the same ideas as we find in Nazi Germany and especially Rudolf Hess did all in his power to prove that humankind was divided into different races or branches, and that one of these branches, the Arians, were somehow the ideal Übermensch, while Hebrews and Romanis for instance were Untermenschen, or of a lower breed. Like the Hebrews, the Nazis also sought to eradicate the other Untermenschen, and just like the Jews they claimed divine origin to their particular branch of the human kind. While Hebrews claimed they were the chosen race of the One and Only God around, the Nazis and esp. Hess, claimed the Arian race were the closest descendants of seven priests who had managed to escape Atlantis before it sank into the ocean. They were seen as demigods with a linage reaching back to the gods of that civilisation. A common trait with many empires and nations, from ancient times until today. Everyone from ancient egyptian pharaos to Roman emperors and the bloody pope have claimed and some people still do claim divinity (like the pope).

Well, all of this fills up dangerous ground, and these ideologies have brought about more horror than anyone can imagine. If you are a Christian and wants to be "clean" in the Torahic sense, please concider that you are supporting a system of racistic and fascistic traditions created to divide between some imaginary ideal super human being and the lower, dirtier and more degenerated and unclean people filling up most of this globe.

Jesus taught us the Way of Love and fulfilled the Law, for the Sanhedrin together with the Roman proconsulate sacrificed his blood, and thereby did the most unclean of offerings, to sacrifice a human being, who is unclean according to their own Law, unless he is sinless, something I have pointed out many times that Jesus WAS NOT allthough the Church has made it seem that way.

And if you don't eat pork because you somehow believe it is unclean, do you still eat shrimps, escargot, squid, catfish, Russian and most other caviars, hares and rabbits? Well, these and many other delicasies are non-kosher or concidered to be haram by Muslims. And for some strange reasons, most modern Jews seems to concider their brothers among the Muslims unclean, eventhough most of them have the same ancestor, the ever elusive Abraham, and like their brothers the men are circumcised according to the same tradition as Jews and follow the same food hygiene, based on the Torah. Somehow, to a concervative Jew living in Israel, a Muslim Palestinian is unclean and must therefore be segregated out of their society or even be deemed lawless or be killed as an enemy of war. Not that one is better than the other, but somehow when Jes does this and have these ideologies, they are good, while other people showing the same ideas are evil. Beats me. That's apartheid and straight out fascistic.

The present government in Israel have become worse than the Nazis and has filled this world with TRUE TERROR with genocide and major destruction of vital industry etc. thus directly targeting civilians, nothing like the mostly imaginary CHILDSPLAY of people like Bin Laden or movements like Hamas. Or take the US-Soviet weapons' race? Take the US lead War against Terror towards people living along the Axis of Evil, take the constant apartheid agenda of Israel to it's neighbours and fellow citizens. THATS REAL TERROR. The only theoretic idea that can somehow set Jewish and American governments and war mongers free while people and organisations the same people have concidered to belong to the "horrable, extremist terrorists". Well, the only thing must be that US-Israel are somehow "clean" or "civilised" or even "victimous" while the terrorists are "unclean", "uncivilised" and the "aggressors", the "criminals". They are worse people, more viscious and of a lower caste than Israeli and American politicans, officers and soldiers the claim is. Well, looking at the facts and the bottomline, the red and italic numbers, well, the truth doesn't look like that. Bush is a much worse terrorist that Bin Laden for Bush has waged much more terror than any other person I know of.

Look up the semantics of the word 'terror' or 'terrorist' in a dictionary. Who does it apply to: Bush or Osama? Well appart for the fact that we live in the West and don't see much of the actual terror that's being waged uppon civilians and buildings and facilities around the globe thanks to nations like USA and Israel. Well we all remember at least one terror attack, like the gassing of subwaypasengers in Tokio or the 9-11 disaster. Now how many civilians, buildings and vital facilities like water-cleaning, electricity, food and medicine etc. have been killed or destroyed by decleared terrorists belonging to the so called Axis of Terror, hand what does the bottomline say about Western armies? I wouldn't even bother doing the math. USA and Israel alone has produced most of the terror that is around in our world society, either through their direct or indirect actions, like economic apartheid etc. What is 3000 civilian casualties and a couple of obviously poorly designed buildings, compared to the civilian casualties and infrastructural and vital facilities damage, including the daily torture of thousands of "terror"-suspects around the world, by the hands of George W. Bush and USA, well, since 9-11 2001 and until today. Have you ever done the math?

Or simpler: Compare the "result" of Al Quaida with the "result" of USA. You will find out that USA has caused hundreds and thousands of percents more damage. Now what makes AlQuaida into a terror-organisation while the Bush administration is somehow a civilised and rightious organisation defending it's interrest in a civil and rightful manner? American soldiers practise several methods of torture which is carried out on everything from casual men and women who were unlucky enough to be at the wrong place at the wrong time, but whom US Army and Intelligence claim belongs to a terror network to real terrorists. Waterbordering is one of them, and basically it involves drowning of people and waking them up. Sleep deprivation and extreme isolation, food and drink deprevation and many other evil things. If you are American, know that your government and Army does this! Ask a Korea-war-veteran about waterbordering.

And another thing, any statistics run on masses of detainees and prisoners, include a certain group of innocent people who have been wrongly accused, sentenced and imprisoned based on lies, bad intelligence, bad justice and so on. And when you know that US Army and Intelligence under the Bush admin. seems to allow themselves to imprison and torture people without trial and the possibility to defend themselves. Well, all of this is disgusting and highly UNCLEAN.

[edit on 5/1/2009 by Neo Christian Mystic]

[edit on 5/1/2009 by Neo Christian Mystic]

posted on Jan, 7 2009 @ 03:55 AM
Im sorry but muslims didnt declare a war against infidels. U declared a war against them with your missing knowledge you judge whole culture. I'm really sorry for you. You should read and get true information about İslam. Don't just watch jews media(please). Even İslam means peace. This just another crusedar s war against muslims. Your kids will be ashamed of you. Now they r killing innocent kids by accusing them terrorist. Thats your laws, that s your justice.

posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 04:08 PM
Well this is what the Bible says about what we are allowed to eat, the whole point of Christ was to seal all the prophets self sacrifices in pleasing God and holding his word, this is why today we are free in the West compared to some countries and cultures, Christians went forward with Christ not backwards in religious practices. Although the Jews are still waiting for their Messiah, Jesus know they would reject his teaching but they still have a promise to the Land of Israel and his return back there to finally convince them and the world.

Colossians 2 (New International Version)

1 Timothy 4
Instructions to Timothy
1The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. 2Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. 3They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth. 4For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, 5because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer.

Freedom From Human Regulations Through Life With Christ

16Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. 17These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ. 18Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you for the prize. Such a person goes into great detail about what he has seen, and his unspiritual mind puffs him up with idle notions. 19He has lost connection with the Head, from whom the whole body, supported and held together by its ligaments and sinews, grows as God causes it to

posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 11:24 PM
If you feel you can not eat pork or some meats still, after some good points have been brought forth. Read Mark chapter 7. The whole thing. Here is a taste:

15 There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.

The old law stated that they were to do nothing on the sabbath day. Not even pick up sticks. But the litteral sabbath day, was a type of Christ. When Jesus (who is God for those of you who are unaware) was crucified, it canged the law. The Holy Ghost is the sabbath. The Holy Ghost is rest. The diet that was laied out in Mosiac law was one to help them live long. If you lived by the Bible diet, you would be eating healthy. But that does not mean there is food that is off limits. Animals were created for the service of man.

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