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reply posted on 24-7-2008 @ 06:16 PM by alienj
reply to post by Kryties



First of all, your are the apitamy of whats wrong with this country, didnt your mother tell you 2 wrongs dont make a right, Just because someone else does it doesnt mean its right. What it means is the person that recognizes it needs to rise above it. Clearly something you dont agree with.


reply posted on 24-7-2008 @ 06:18 PM by alienj
reply to post by SRTkid86



Since you are so keen on polls, did you bother to check that congress has a lower approval rate than Congress. Dennis is apart of Congress and it seems the public dislikes him more than they dislike the president. Hey heres an idea, impeach DK for wasting time and money of a goverment organization.


reply posted on 24-7-2008 @ 10:46 PM by jitombe
reply to post by jhill76



I am a huge Dennis fan, the only candidate I actually donated money to knowing full well that he never had a chance. Bush is never going to get impeached or have to deal with any type of blame/punishment for anything he did while he is/was in office. Bush will have to deal with what is coming to him in the afterlife, it will be ugly.


reply posted on 25-7-2008 @ 01:26 PM by Kryties
Originally posted by alienj
reply to
post by Kryties



First of all, your are the apitamy of whats wrong with this country, didnt your mother tell you 2 wrongs dont make a right, Just because someone else does it doesnt mean its right. What it means is the person that recognizes it needs to rise above it. Clearly something you dont agree with.


Sorry to burst your little bubble but if you shift your eyes slightly to the left you will notice, just under my avatar, that I live in Australia

How does one "rise above" a tyrannical government? Happy thoughts and pretty flower petals will not bring them down Im afraid


reply posted on 26-7-2008 @ 04:06 AM by Daedalus
reply to post by ALightinDarkness



What in the world are you talking about?

Crimes against the federal budget?

Political 3-ring circus?

Please elaborate..



reply posted on 26-7-2008 @ 10:42 AM by Andrew E. Wiggin
reply to post by BlueTriangle



The point of impeachment is more symbollic. Its more "the american people dont stand for this"

just my 2 cents (which used to be a dollar before bush )


reply posted on 26-7-2008 @ 11:18 PM by ALightinDarkness
reply to post by Daedalus



In politics, what Dennis is doing is a widely known tactic called political grandstanding. It is used by politicians who for whatever reason need to pump up the base, usually - as is the case with Dennis - due to his failing political career and increasing irrelevance in national politics. Political grandstanding is the intentional creation of drama and political hostility by simply making things up and drawing artificial lines of controversy around something. This creates a media circus since the media loves this sort of drama, and thus the metaphor of Dennis being the ring leader of his own three ring political circus.

Grandstanding pumps up the base because it appeals to their anger/hatred - in this case, the media programmed hatred of Bush. But while it pumps up the base, its just a gesture and has no actual relevance or meaning.

By crimes against the federal budget I mean that impeachment is a expensive process. It costs millions of taxpayer dollars just to hold these hearings, not to mention the opportunity cost that our Congress people could be actually working on something else. Every time Dennis pulls this stunt, he costs taxpayers a huge chunk of money.


reply posted on 27-7-2008 @ 02:18 AM by Daedalus
Originally posted by ALightinDarkness
reply to
post by Daedalus



In politics, what Dennis is doing is a widely known tactic called political grandstanding. It is used by politicians who for whatever reason need to pump up the base, usually - as is the case with Dennis - due to his failing political career and increasing irrelevance in national politics. Political grandstanding is the intentional creation of drama and political hostility by simply making things up and drawing artificial lines of controversy around something. This creates a media circus since the media loves this sort of drama, and thus the metaphor of Dennis being the ring leader of his own three ring political circus.

Grandstanding pumps up the base because it appeals to their anger/hatred - in this case, the media programmed hatred of Bush. But while it pumps up the base, its just a gesture and has no actual relevance or meaning.

By crimes against the federal budget I mean that impeachment is a expensive process. It costs millions of taxpayer dollars just to hold these hearings, not to mention the opportunity cost that our Congress people could be actually working on something else. Every time Dennis pulls this stunt, he costs taxpayers a huge chunk of money.


I guess this is where you and i differ. I don't see this as a stunt, i see it as a lone voice of reason, trying to actually do something, ANYTHING, to help the people. Who the hell cares how much it costs to impeach this asshole?, it's a drop in the bucket, compared to the national debt he's created.

You sound as if you are a bush supporter. Are you? If so, do you disagree with anything he's done during his tenure in the white house?


reply posted on 27-7-2008 @ 02:52 AM by ALightinDarkness
reply to post by Daedalus



I am not a Bush supporter. I am a libertarian, but unfortunately, ATS is so populated with the bush hating lunatic fringe and I spend so much time pointing out the propaganda, it may seem that way. Its not that I won't point out RNC propagandists, we just don't have them on ATS from what I've seen - this is DNC propaganda central.

I am against the creation of political drama in order to rally the lunatic fringe - any lunatic fringe - when it costs such lavish amounts of money. I would also prefer the Congress actually work on something that needs to be done, instead of taking part of utter political sophistry.

Bush has not created any national debt. Only the congress has the ability to spend us into debt. The Congress which has nothing better to do than to waste money on political grandstanding.

[edit on 27-7-2008 by ALightinDarkness]
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