Some of the best ghost footage ive ever seen...or is it?, page 3
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reply posted on 22-7-2008 @ 04:36 PM by IMAdamnALIEN
reply to post by Bro.CNiblo



Fake!

And really well done!

Fooled me for a little bit!

I wuz like WTF!!!!!



reply posted on 22-7-2008 @ 04:41 PM by garyo1954
reply to post by russ1969



Orb? Which window? What is the time frame?

I'm going frame by frame and see a lot of light changes, but so far no orbs.
There has been a lot of editing in this video, although he might call it clean up and light corrections.

Just the fact that the placards have been splices in tells you editing was done.

I won't make any assumptions of fake or not until I pull some stills and see what is there. It's those lighting changes that bother me most.

The dogs aren't a issue in my opinion. Some dogs being scolded by their pet owner, or even the owner lifting his hand, causes the dog to cower.


reply posted on 22-7-2008 @ 05:11 PM by Tuebor
Originally posted by Swingarm
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post by gimme_some_truth



Yes thats right , I think it's fishing line. Some guy/gal in the closet, and the dogs are afraid of either weather or the vacuum cleaner as someone else said.
That being said my wife has seen shadow people before, twice in the same public building. I believe in the paranormal just reject this particular attempt at it.


I agree. I would add that there was probably a person hiding in the basement behind the clutter that had fishing line attached to the pail that fell over. Everything can be explained easily. No mystery here. THe dogs could have been afraid of any item the guy was holding off camera. Someone mentioned a vacuum. Very astute!! HE could have chased phoebe the white dog under the bed with a vacuum and then she was recluctant to come out.

I disagree with some saying the guy's "acting" in the attic looked genuine. It looked staged to me.




reply posted on 22-7-2008 @ 05:26 PM by garyo1954
reply to post by Tuebor



Notice at 3:07 when the dogs come back in the room. They have happy dog tails. Nice and curly, not tucked.



Then at 3:41 white dog YAWNS.



I'm inclined to agree the 2:41 paper towel toss is done by a finger in the far end of the roll.

Still looking for that orb.


reply posted on 22-7-2008 @ 06:10 PM by mrk2012
Originally posted by garyo1954
While I'm doing this let's look at the next video where the 'spirit' is located in the room behind the picture.

No eyes? Wonder where that little bugger is hiding?
[edit on 7/22/2008 by garyo1954]


The "ghost" in this video isn't in the room, nor is it referenced to have anything to do with those two lights that appear to look like eyes; those are just a coincidence.

The apparent apparition in that video actually goes in to that room in the form of a subtle, smoky black shape and as it goes the picture frame tilts.

This video is the only one I think has anything going for it. How did he fake or create that subtle black shape so well? Not sure.

All of the other videos would be far too easy to fake:

-The paper towel could have been flipped by tugging a fishing wire taped to the inside of it, the puller was hiding behind the chest.

-The door could have been opened and closed via fishing wire or similar material. The door only moves in short bursts.

-The dogs apparently looking at something conveniently located behind the camera, way too easy to fake. Could just be a dude there holding a doggy treat in the air and waving it around.

-The distortion effects are easy to pull off in post, I'm talking about both audio and video distortions.

-The shot in the attic was just too dumb. He runs up and checks things out but placed the camera down and then "investigates" right in front of camera? This looks entirely like a set up for something to happen. The red can that tips over could again easily have been pulled off by taping a wire or string to the side of it and tugging down, the tugger could be behind the mass of clutter and boxes.

He also runs directly over the camera when the red can tips over rather than down and out of the attic. Who the hell would stay in the attic if that really happened?

-And like already mentioned, all of this stuff happens in frame, in front of the camera...come on now... do the ghosts know they are being taped?


-Finally, if you look at his other videos, he has done a few little short films which mean there is precedent for him to create something like this. If all his other videos were just music videos, clips of family guy and home movie stuff, I'd be less suspicious.

All in all, very interesting footage, truly creepy but altogether fake in my opinion.


reply posted on 22-7-2008 @ 06:22 PM by Mintwithahole.
reply to post by gimme_some_truth



I think it's fake. On the first video go to 1:57 and listen closely. Just before the door opens you can clearly hear a knock as if someone just out of shot had kicked the door open! Also, why does this guy leave the radio on all day?


reply posted on 22-7-2008 @ 06:35 PM by Symer
Very entertaining video's. I'm not convinced either way, fake or real. They're giving me goosebumps though which modern horror movies no longer achieve, so props to the creator if they're faked.

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post by garyo1954

Are you suggesting there are no eyes in the first and third shot? Cause I see the eyes in all three pictures (the brightness of my screen is probably set to ridiculously high).

reply to post by Mintwithahole.

Don't some people leave the radio on to keep the dogs company?


reply posted on 22-7-2008 @ 06:45 PM by Alethia
In the second video what is claimed as eyes are always there from the second he turns the video round to face that room to the end of the video those "eyes" are always visible so it's not what I think is being referenced as paranormal. Also, the picture frame moves after the supposed "ghost" has already gone into the room so it can't be claimed as moving due to the ghost passing in front of it, because the ghost has already gone past, unless people think there are two spirits now?

In the third video, the tin can is clearly being heled up by the stick (which to me lloks like it's the top end of a rake). When he's looking around (not very convincingly looking at that), he gives one glance over to the camera, and then his right leg can be seen to move. Once this leg moves, the stick can then be seen to move, releasing the can which then falls, so to me he could easily have triggered the can falling by pulling something with his leg that was attached to the stick causing it to fall, or somehow used this movement to cause a vibration in the floorboards that cause the stick to loosen, allowing the tin can to fall over.

Also, at 6.00, when the camera moves again to the right and it's final position, on the right hand edge of the picture, about half way up, you can see that there is something off screen that casting a shadow seen in the picture on the edge, and it is twitching as evidenced by the shadow twitching too, and then it goes out of view. This could easily be explained as his hand holding the camera or playing with the light switch which he is doing offscreen, but his shadow is caught on screen.

Either way, there's too much in these videos that is easily createable with some strings in camera, or in post production, or both. He's done a good job and clearly thought through how to pull it off, but he's not quite honed the craft enough and is leaving traceable evidence to me that this is just a couple of little effects videos, posted to get a reaction (which he's clearly got).


reply posted on 22-7-2008 @ 06:47 PM by garyo1954
reply to post by gimme_some_truth



Alethia, You are right. I didn't bother doing the edit since I expected to see the same thing "Again" as he said.

But yes! Those eyes are always in the picture. My error. And I accept that.

One thing it does prove: The guy has edited the video to make them visible.

Now the smoke might be worth looking at.

At the moment I'm watching the can fall in the attic. It does a slight tilt just before it does. I'll get back to that momentarily. Let me recheck the smoke.

Thanks for checking me.

[edit on 7/22/2008 by garyo1954]
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