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Originally posted by Wallachian
Here is a video that i found, to clarify things a little.
video on italian site
And this is an approximate translation made with babel fish:
They have gone around of Italy and of the world the images of the two bodies of the children rom dead women you drown saturday afternoon in the sea of Torregaveta, have provoked the indignation of many because they showed the cold indifference of those which in the same moment in which the two bodies they lay without life on the shoreline they continued imperturbable in their activities. They swam, they took the sun, they ate their breakfasts while the corpses of the two sorelline remained only covered from two burlaps from sea on the beach for beyond three hours waiting for being removed. “The images of our city Are these that we would not want to see - have said deeply hurt Sepe Cardinal - they have made sure more evil badly than those which have shown for the world a Naples submergeeed from the refusals. To turn itself from the other part or makes the transactions own can be sometimes more devastating of the same events that happen. The newspapers have shown the photos when all already it was completed - the bishop of Naples has continued and of the two children we have been able to only notice the piedini that they exited from the cloth from sea that covered to them, but unfortunately in those terrible photos it has been able to see more worse very, people nearly annoyed from the presence of the two corpses that occupied the boot topping. I hope - it has concluded Sepe. That facts of the sort are not repeated never more”
On the same page you can see that the bodies were not abandoned, there was indeed somebody watching them. But the fact is that they did stay there on the beach for over 3 hours, while people were having breakfast around them.
May i ask, if those girls were somebody you knew and loved, you'd still think this kind of reaction is ok or excusable?
The civil liberties group EveryOne said it was unconvinced by reports of the incident at Torregaveta and asked whether there might be something more sinister behind it.
Originally posted by MerigoldRecently I was visiting my family when my uncle happened to come across a very nice diamond ring. ( I didn't ask...*grins* ). He showed it off to the family and everyone commented how valuable it must be. The next day, the ring was gone. Someone had liberated him of it as he undoubtedly liberated it from someone else. His response was a shrug - " They must have needed it more then I did" he said.
Originally posted by Merigold
reply to post by Sonya610
Look, I don't neccasasrily condon them doing what they do, but it is something that the Roma have done since time immortal. It IS part of their culture.
Seeing a human being as a parasite invites the acceptance of pograms to eliminate the parasite.
You know what I see? I see people who are truely free. They don't worry about a mortgage or being laid off. They don't stress over finances. They lead very simple lives and I for one envy it.
Do not misunderstand. They aren't buying new cars, or going on expensive vacations with their loot. They are feeding their children and buying firewood, or making sure that their elderly parents have a warm spot in the family caravan.
And to make it very clear, stealing ISN'T their primary means of support.. They actually have professions such as silversmiths, musicians, and leatherworkers. Traditional Roma way of life means you depend on your family and your skills to finance your travels. Just like in any society there are the criminals among them - My point I am trying to make is that even the most successful thief among them does not see him or herself as a criminal.
Bah, I am finding it difficult to explain, hell I find it difficult to understand it myself.
I just wish my life was simple as it is for the rest of my family. If they are hungry and pass by a garden, they eat. If they are weary and pass by suitable land they stop. If I am hungry I have to go to the grocery store with money that I've busted my ass trying to make at a job which I hate...
I'm a little hurt by the venom I sense in your post Sonya..I've always enjoyed reading your posts and the open mindeedness of them..this felt so..mean..?
Originally posted by Merigold
Recently I was visiting my family when my uncle happened to come across a very nice diamond ring. ( I didn't ask...*grins* ). He showed it off to the family and everyone commented how valuable it must be. The next day, the ring was gone. Someone had liberated him of it as he undoubtedly liberated it from someone else. His response was a shrug - " They must have needed it more then I did" he said.
That's their general attitude towards material things.
Originally posted by EverythingYouDespise
I don't see the logic in your thought. Just because somebody happened to kick it where I'm trying to relax I have to make it a priority to keep their corpse clean?
For who? It's not like the owner needs it anymore!
Originally posted by ofhumandescent
And how many homeless people do each and everyone of you walk past each day and ignore?
Flip the channel when anything comes on about the genocide in Darfur appears.
Or turn the newspaper page away from reading about the next 2,000 people that will lose their jobs (and homes)?
It's called apathy and until a "problem" hits home most people simply turn a blind eye to issues that don't involve them.