A Detailed Introduction Of H5N1 To New Comers.

An article caught my attention, possibly related to this topic.


Nine days ago, there was a power failure in a building at the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) in Atlanta. This building contains a deadly strain of avian bird flu. The power failure prevented fans from function whose purpose is to contain the flu samples.

www.ajc.com...

Hopefully the recent threads mentioning thousands of FEMA 'coffins' in the state of Georgia, as well as the presence of the Georgia guidestones, in only a conincidence.

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Yer i read that, but since this forum is/was dead you have to pick and choose what to post so that this forum doesnt get flooded with 1 post threads. From what i read on it, there was no major issues afterwards.

Fox

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Well, flu immunizations aren't recommended unless you're at risk to be killed if you get the flu. Meaning, if you're really old or if you have an immune problem.

For the reaction to the vaccine... What vaccine was it that caused the hives? This reaction isn't "unheard of" at all, it's on the disclaimer of every vaccine you take. Unfortunately, most doctors I see don't properly prep their patients with knowledge of the possible side effects before giving the vaccination. If you don't know off hand (I would if hurt my child that badly), can you check? The fact the doctors called this reaction "unheard of" and didn't tell you what in the vaccine probably caused it is disturbing. Very.

As for the second... You mean his first vaccine? That's Hepatitis B, right? That should have been given once before the second month and again before the fourth? Why do you connect that vaccination with whatever developmental problems your child is having now?

I really, really don't think that's a valid reason to avoid vaccinations altogether. But I'm not here to lecture you, I'm here to learn from your experience.


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Right now it's about...zero. They give the first immunization before the baby is 2 months old, usually. The connection between vaccinations and autism is pretty much not there, but I question the practice because of potential side effects and whatnot. Many vaccines do contain a minute amount of mercury, which is actually perfectly safe, but I would still hesitate to inject it into a baby due to his smaller size and higher sensitivity. But really, we're backseat doctors right now, with no training (well, yet for me), so I don't know much.

I'm just not all that impressed with most doctors. Most just follow what they read, since they're not actually involved in research themselves.

I thought it was your own body that kills you? The complete over-reaction of your immune system to a non human virus

Therefore the healthier and younger you are..the more likely you are to die from Bird Flu

The elderly and/or those with immune suppressing diseases (AIDS) are more likely to survive

Also - why so alarmist about a mutation...it may transpire that a mutation will be beneficial! swapping genes may make it a less severe form of influenza!

Please ,quote Me on this if you like. I am now Thirty Five years old ,and have two Children under six of my own. Now when I first had my jabs back in the seventy`s most of this research was just that. Now please listen to what I have to say, My first jabs were the usual Measel, Mumps, and Rubela? My Father assured by everybody that these tests were safe, assured everybody of the same! He knew that before these jabs ,I was a lively ,Intellegent,lad. But shortly afterward`s I became a sickly Lad Who wanted nothing but to curl up and Die! My demenor became odd. I could`nt stand being in the company of others! I have had a troubled schooling not least because of My Fathers clasification as an Irish Republican! So Please think twice about the price and the overall cost of the Jabs. I/We Know We need them ,but in What context and measures?

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Well, i agree with you there. The MMR* Jab has been highly controversial since people of your own generation started to display effects and then generations afterwards who had been exposed were getting worse. At one point the amount of people who were getting their children jab'd was so low that people started to worry about a pandemic, if one kid gets sick the whole lot will, which is a little over the top i personally think. I live in the UK and thats where the outbreak issues were arising, just talking about them, there was no massive outbreak killing all of them. To Put it simply, we don't know what is in half of these damn jabs that these big companies want us to take, sometimes its best to just not take any of them.

Fox

*Measel, Mumps, and Rubela.

Suggestions for surviving flu pandemic -

www.healthfreedomusa.org...

General question or maybe a few questions. I thought maybe someone reading here will know the answer....didn't know where else to put it?

Anyway, this past winter, in late December through early January, every one of the 21 people where i work had a horrible, horrible flu...most of us twice. I have a very strong constitution and nothing ever knocks me out, but I laid in bed literally for three days yearning to die...it was that bad.

Now none of the docs we went to tested us for anything. One guy's doc tested for some stomach thing so as not to prescribe something that might kill him? Other than that all the docs just did the usual...bed, rest, fluids thing. Some antivirals...some antibiotics, but all just again mostly based on visual exam and patient description of symptoms. The ERs here were packed with people with the same symptoms, and some of them were giving out masks.

At the same time, there was a horrible bug very similar descriptions that my best friend in London caught, and she told me that the hospitals there were jammed. There was nothing either of us saw in the news about this...in fact, thinking back on it, "reported" flu outbreaks were none to mile.

Now...the question is how many people could have had this HumanBirdPig flu and not even known it? The article in the OP describes horrible lung symptoms, but the cases "discovered" in the U.S. are "mild." How and when do docs decide when to test or report to CDC or whatever? How do they determing "clusters" or whatever? And how do they know if they don't test.

I believe this whole flu "possible Pandemic" is all another scare tactic.
Just received this link on the 2 Virus' (Bird and Swine) possibly
intermixing together and becoming very dangerous, killing off
millions and maybe more.

Here is the link:
Swine Flu Could Mix With Bird Flu
It's getting ridiculous.

An H5N1 outbreak or H1N1 mutation would not only reduce the population by an unknown percentage but would also allow the goverments of the world to put us in 'lock down' with national IDs and martial law to control us during the pandemic.
What gets me (and others) is the extensive preperations being taken for the pandemic such as FEMA camps and coffins among others.

After the pandemic ends it will be a much different world with fewer people that are under tighter control.