Excellent thread
Its an excelent primer for the forum. Fred
A Detailed Introduction Of H5N1 To New Comers., page 1
Topic started on 21-7-2008 @ 12:48 PM by ProTo Fire Fox
Influenza virus A is a virus from the Orthomyxoviridae family. There are many strains of this virus but the most common and most well known is H5N1
aka 'Bird Flu'. It is common that the strains and subtypes of Influenza virus A stay in the wild birds, which can easily hold if off with there
Superior immune systems, the disease usually lies in the birds intestines, but if not there, then any where from the nose to the lungs, but it is most
commonly found in the intestines. The main issue with Influenza virus A is that if it gets into a domestic bird, such as a chicken**, which
immune system is not as high due to being domesticated, then it could kill it and spread amongst other chickens causing a pandemic. The nick name to
the strain is usually derived from the host for example there are Bird flu, Human flu, Swine flu, Horse flu and Dog flu just to name some. A strain of
this recently caused a lot of trouble in Hong Kong, this was H3N2.
As mentioned H5N1 is a subtype of the Influenza virus A. It is considered by many as today's leading world threat in terms of disease. The last out break of this was in Hong Kong, China, in 2002, it infected a lot of chickens. H5N1 can harm animals and in some cases Humans. H5N1 aka 'Bird Flu' is most common in birds, hence the name. Although bird flu is mostly found in birds, it is not unheard of for it to infect humans, the main threat then is that, we know it mutates to suite the host and reasssorts it self so that it can spread easier, so if it does this whilst in an infected human it may become a human-to-human disease which could end up being a world epidemic. In 2003 a man named Robert Webster who is a virologist, considered one of the best in the world, published "The world is teetering on the edge of a pandemic that could kill a large fraction of the human population"***. In this is mentions the progression of the virus and the global threat it posses, he talks about it being a threat to billions of lives.
H5N1 may seem like a weird named, but it all due to its genetic make up. The H5 stands for the fifth of several known types of the protein hemagglutinin. Hemmagglutinin is responsible for holding the virus to the cell that it is infecting. A big problem is that a single amino acid change in the strain could cause it to become the perfect human-to-human disease, hence the name of Mr. Webster's aforementioned article. The N1 stands for the first of several known types of the protein neuraminidase.
Unless a human-to-human form of H5N1 comes out, contracting it is going to be the same now as it always has been. The virus is transported in the hosts blood and excretions, basically in nearly all liquid type material in the body. You can contract it without being in contact with any animal though, for example if i chicken excretes on a path, some one may clean it up but not wipe it enough to remove the H5N1 strain, you drop a lolly and pick it up straight away and wipe it off and put it right back in your mouth, you may of just contracted it. Or if you eat chicken, raw chicken e.g. chicken breast for dinner, it may have H5N1, you clean your cooking counters and that's it, then you prepare a salad and the virus is now on the salad, there are a unlimited ways to catch it. The most common of domesticated animals to get it is chickens, they have been domesticated for so long that H5N1 rips apart what tiny immune response they have to it, they don't stand a chance against it, the fatality rate is 90 - 100%. A way to prevent it would be to not handle any food that you think looks off. Don't drop anything and then keep on eating it, we've all done it when we were kids ! If you cook chicken Please do a massive clean up after wards, even if it means scrubbing one little area for 20 minutes, 99.999% of the time it will be completely harmless, not every chicken has it, but its just hygiene as well, chickens carry a lot of bad viruses not including H5N1; and as we have all been told 'Make sure to wash your hands'.
At this present time many areas are infected, by either wild or domestic birds a good map to see which shows you where is infected is this map. It shows us that H5N1 has been confined to Europe, Asia and some very small areas in Africa. Asia is the current 'hot spot', there handing of domestic animals is poor which is leading to is spreading there, ti is also the area where the most humans have died from contracting H5N1, one young girl from Asia got it from hugging and kissing chickens in her village; she later died. America is virtually untouched, it did have a outbreak in Arkansas which is currently being discussed in this thread in the H5N1 forum on abovetopsecret.com. A big problem that has been taken into consideration is migration season of birds, this is a major threat this involves thousands if not tens of thousands of infected birds flying to uninfected areas where domestic animals are kept, animals who's immune system cannot deal with this deadly virus. DEFRA have announced that they are worried, they state
Which shows that problem posed by these migratory birds. The official document where that quote originates is found here
People have been looking for a cure for a long time now, a cure was announced by the university of Pittsberg in 2006, the news article can be found here. To date there is NO cure or medicine to feel better, at this point in time, if you get it...good luck, you'll need it. We are very close to developing a prevention drug though, in a thread on abovetopsecret.com it talks about how scientists manged to get a cell to resist H5N1 by isolating and repressing 3 genes, they believe that there are a total of 100 genes that are all necessary for H5N1 to infect the host. That thread can be located here. So as you can see we are getting closer to a cure every day, but we are not there yet. A very detailed any informative text about Avian Flu can be found Here.
When it comes to the conspiratorial side of things, H5N1 may be the greatest bio weapon ever made; or it could just be a virus which would break most the theories. The main theory about bird flu is that the elite want it to become a pandemic and kill a large amount of people on this planet, drop the population to approximately 1 - 1.5 billion people, a theory that is being discussed here is that the vaccine will have a small microchip in it which will track us, so the NWO has completed its agenda of population control and tagged all the survivors at the same time, but as i said this is just a theory and to my knowledge has no evidence saying it is a stupid claim, and no evidence saying it is right; but it is one of my favorites. Now can YOU see the threat that H5N1 posses ?
Thank You for reading this, Ill leave you with some quotes...
“We expect the next influenza pandemic to come at any time now, and it’s likely to be caused by a mutant of the virus that is currently causing bird flu in Asia.” -- link.
“There are some subtle changes in the genetic makeup of H5N1 which suggest that it is making some of the mutations that would enable it to have a higher likelihood of being able to become a human-to-human transmitted virus" -- link.
“This is a national emergency, how could it be otherwise? Resources are made available for natural emergencies and now many people are threatened by a virus which can decimate a country.” -- link.
“As the new cases of human infection with the H5N1 virus in Turkey show, the situation is worsening with each passing month and the threat of an influenza pandemic is continuing to grow every day” -- link.
ProTo Fire Fox
Stars
*HPAI stands for Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza.
**Chickens are just an example it can happen to any type of domestic bird around the world.
*** Robert Websters article can be found here.
Video.
Bird flu - natural bio-terrorism - 1:41 long.
Information sources.
Influenza A
Hong Kong Flu.
H5N1
Hemagglutinin
CDC H5N1
Useful Links
Map of infected areas.
The official DEFRA document mentioned in the article.
2006 Mistake Cure, mentioned in article.
Mentioned Threads At AboveTopSecret.Com
The H5N1 Conspiracy
15,000 Ark. hens test positive for bird-flu exposure - Akansas Out break.
H5N1: Team Of Scientists 'Turn Off' Host Genes.
As mentioned H5N1 is a subtype of the Influenza virus A. It is considered by many as today's leading world threat in terms of disease. The last out break of this was in Hong Kong, China, in 2002, it infected a lot of chickens. H5N1 can harm animals and in some cases Humans. H5N1 aka 'Bird Flu' is most common in birds, hence the name. Although bird flu is mostly found in birds, it is not unheard of for it to infect humans, the main threat then is that, we know it mutates to suite the host and reasssorts it self so that it can spread easier, so if it does this whilst in an infected human it may become a human-to-human disease which could end up being a world epidemic. In 2003 a man named Robert Webster who is a virologist, considered one of the best in the world, published "The world is teetering on the edge of a pandemic that could kill a large fraction of the human population"***. In this is mentions the progression of the virus and the global threat it posses, he talks about it being a threat to billions of lives.
H5N1 may seem like a weird named, but it all due to its genetic make up. The H5 stands for the fifth of several known types of the protein hemagglutinin. Hemmagglutinin is responsible for holding the virus to the cell that it is infecting. A big problem is that a single amino acid change in the strain could cause it to become the perfect human-to-human disease, hence the name of Mr. Webster's aforementioned article. The N1 stands for the first of several known types of the protein neuraminidase.
Unless a human-to-human form of H5N1 comes out, contracting it is going to be the same now as it always has been. The virus is transported in the hosts blood and excretions, basically in nearly all liquid type material in the body. You can contract it without being in contact with any animal though, for example if i chicken excretes on a path, some one may clean it up but not wipe it enough to remove the H5N1 strain, you drop a lolly and pick it up straight away and wipe it off and put it right back in your mouth, you may of just contracted it. Or if you eat chicken, raw chicken e.g. chicken breast for dinner, it may have H5N1, you clean your cooking counters and that's it, then you prepare a salad and the virus is now on the salad, there are a unlimited ways to catch it. The most common of domesticated animals to get it is chickens, they have been domesticated for so long that H5N1 rips apart what tiny immune response they have to it, they don't stand a chance against it, the fatality rate is 90 - 100%. A way to prevent it would be to not handle any food that you think looks off. Don't drop anything and then keep on eating it, we've all done it when we were kids ! If you cook chicken Please do a massive clean up after wards, even if it means scrubbing one little area for 20 minutes, 99.999% of the time it will be completely harmless, not every chicken has it, but its just hygiene as well, chickens carry a lot of bad viruses not including H5N1; and as we have all been told 'Make sure to wash your hands'.
At this present time many areas are infected, by either wild or domestic birds a good map to see which shows you where is infected is this map. It shows us that H5N1 has been confined to Europe, Asia and some very small areas in Africa. Asia is the current 'hot spot', there handing of domestic animals is poor which is leading to is spreading there, ti is also the area where the most humans have died from contracting H5N1, one young girl from Asia got it from hugging and kissing chickens in her village; she later died. America is virtually untouched, it did have a outbreak in Arkansas which is currently being discussed in this thread in the H5N1 forum on abovetopsecret.com. A big problem that has been taken into consideration is migration season of birds, this is a major threat this involves thousands if not tens of thousands of infected birds flying to uninfected areas where domestic animals are kept, animals who's immune system cannot deal with this deadly virus. DEFRA have announced that they are worried, they state
“Migratory populations include species in which the entire population or a significant proportion of the population cyclically and predictably crosses one or more national jurisdictional boundaries. Waterbirds use a wide variety of habitats during their annual cycle, from the artic tundra, forested wetlands of the temperate taiga, foreststeppe, steppe grasslands, deserts, inland and coastal wetlands, wet and dry agriculture croplands, rivers, floodplain wetlands, marshes, lakes, tanks, ponds, irrigation tanks, sewage and waste treatment farms”.
Which shows that problem posed by these migratory birds. The official document where that quote originates is found here
People have been looking for a cure for a long time now, a cure was announced by the university of Pittsberg in 2006, the news article can be found here. To date there is NO cure or medicine to feel better, at this point in time, if you get it...good luck, you'll need it. We are very close to developing a prevention drug though, in a thread on abovetopsecret.com it talks about how scientists manged to get a cell to resist H5N1 by isolating and repressing 3 genes, they believe that there are a total of 100 genes that are all necessary for H5N1 to infect the host. That thread can be located here. So as you can see we are getting closer to a cure every day, but we are not there yet. A very detailed any informative text about Avian Flu can be found Here.
When it comes to the conspiratorial side of things, H5N1 may be the greatest bio weapon ever made; or it could just be a virus which would break most the theories. The main theory about bird flu is that the elite want it to become a pandemic and kill a large amount of people on this planet, drop the population to approximately 1 - 1.5 billion people, a theory that is being discussed here is that the vaccine will have a small microchip in it which will track us, so the NWO has completed its agenda of population control and tagged all the survivors at the same time, but as i said this is just a theory and to my knowledge has no evidence saying it is a stupid claim, and no evidence saying it is right; but it is one of my favorites. Now can YOU see the threat that H5N1 posses ?
Thank You for reading this, Ill leave you with some quotes...
“We expect the next influenza pandemic to come at any time now, and it’s likely to be caused by a mutant of the virus that is currently causing bird flu in Asia.” -- link.
“There are some subtle changes in the genetic makeup of H5N1 which suggest that it is making some of the mutations that would enable it to have a higher likelihood of being able to become a human-to-human transmitted virus" -- link.
“This is a national emergency, how could it be otherwise? Resources are made available for natural emergencies and now many people are threatened by a virus which can decimate a country.” -- link.
“As the new cases of human infection with the H5N1 virus in Turkey show, the situation is worsening with each passing month and the threat of an influenza pandemic is continuing to grow every day” -- link.
ProTo Fire Fox
Stars
*HPAI stands for Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza.
**Chickens are just an example it can happen to any type of domestic bird around the world.
*** Robert Websters article can be found here.
Video.
Bird flu - natural bio-terrorism - 1:41 long.
Information sources.
Influenza A
Hong Kong Flu.
H5N1
Hemagglutinin
CDC H5N1
Useful Links
Map of infected areas.
The official DEFRA document mentioned in the article.
2006 Mistake Cure, mentioned in article.
Mentioned Threads At AboveTopSecret.Com
The H5N1 Conspiracy
15,000 Ark. hens test positive for bird-flu exposure - Akansas Out break.
H5N1: Team Of Scientists 'Turn Off' Host Genes.
reply posted on 21-7-2008 @ 01:15 PM by ProTo Fire Fox
reply to post by FredT
Thanks for making it a sticky Fred , it took a canny while to put all of that together. I hope this will make people pay attention to this forum weather they are natural or man-made theory people. This is some thing i try to keep up with and I have spent years now learning this. Thanks for the flags and stars people.
Fox
Thanks for making it a sticky Fred , it took a canny while to put all of that together. I hope this will make people pay attention to this forum weather they are natural or man-made theory people. This is some thing i try to keep up with and I have spent years now learning this. Thanks for the flags and stars people.
Fox
reply posted on 21-7-2008 @ 01:19 PM by Spiramirabilis
reply to post by ProTo Fire Fox
thanks for putting that together
it's not something I like thinking about - but I'm interested in learning more about it
thanks for putting that together
it's not something I like thinking about - but I'm interested in learning more about it
reply posted on 21-7-2008 @ 02:11 PM by ProTo Fire Fox
reply to post by GrooveCat
Thanks. H5N1 has not died down as much as people think. Within the last 24 hours there has been Bird flu discovered in chickens in Dong Thap. Go back a tiny bit longer you see that a man has recently died of it. It is still around us, as we on ATS all know -- just cause it is not in the mainstream media, doesn't mean it is not out there.
Fox
Thanks. H5N1 has not died down as much as people think. Within the last 24 hours there has been Bird flu discovered in chickens in Dong Thap. Go back a tiny bit longer you see that a man has recently died of it. It is still around us, as we on ATS all know -- just cause it is not in the mainstream media, doesn't mean it is not out there.
Fox
reply posted on 21-7-2008 @ 03:02 PM by whiteraven
ALso...Bird Flu was discovered in Saskatchewan..just Norh of North Dakota.
www.avianinfluenza.org...
I guess this is a different type of bird flu though!
[edit on 21-7-2008 by whiteraven]
www.avianinfluenza.org...
I guess this is a different type of bird flu though!
[edit on 21-7-2008 by whiteraven]
reply posted on 21-7-2008 @ 03:37 PM by ProTo Fire Fox
reply to post by whiteraven
That is H7N3, its not as bad as H5N1 but it is still pretty damn bad if your a domestic chicken
there are a lot of cases about H5N1 going on
right now, some places are just announcing confirmed cases and other are putting up quarantines; as i said - Just because it is not in the mainstream
media, it does not mean that it is not happening. I hope this thread will spark some life in this sleeping forum.
Fox
That is H7N3, its not as bad as H5N1 but it is still pretty damn bad if your a domestic chicken
there are a lot of cases about H5N1 going on
right now, some places are just announcing confirmed cases and other are putting up quarantines; as i said - Just because it is not in the mainstream
media, it does not mean that it is not happening. I hope this thread will spark some life in this sleeping forum. Fox
reply posted on 21-7-2008 @ 11:06 PM by Skipper1975
reply to post by ProTo Fire Fox
thanks for sharing that info..
here is some more...
Dr.Deagle+other
video.google.com...
www.bbsradio.com...
curezone.com...
[edit on 21-7-2008 by Skipper1975]
[edit on 21-7-2008 by Skipper1975]
thanks for sharing that info..
here is some more...
Dr.Deagle+other
video.google.com...
www.bbsradio.com...
curezone.com...
[edit on 21-7-2008 by Skipper1975]
[edit on 21-7-2008 by Skipper1975]
reply posted on 22-7-2008 @ 09:20 AM by ProTo Fire Fox
reply to post by 38181
H5N1 goes straight after the lungs causing massive damage and causing the obvious problems, respiratory distress. We though that was all it did because that is enough to kill, but some studies have shown us that it may spread more. There are on going studies to see how it effects us, but the only fact we know for sure is that its prime target is the lungs.
Fox
H5N1 goes straight after the lungs causing massive damage and causing the obvious problems, respiratory distress. We though that was all it did because that is enough to kill, but some studies have shown us that it may spread more. There are on going studies to see how it effects us, but the only fact we know for sure is that its prime target is the lungs.
Fox
reply posted on 22-7-2008 @ 12:23 PM by mystiq
Theres a thread here showing that it is being put in our flu mist sprays, probably in all our flu shots, and highly promoted. Apparently anyone who
gets it is contagious for 3 weeks and spreads it to everyone else. Good nutrition is highly recommended in the video shown.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Of note, the bird flu rapidly depletes vitamin C and this leads to death.
Edit to add: It feels like we're being set up for a pandemic.
[edit on 22-7-2008 by mystiq]
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Of note, the bird flu rapidly depletes vitamin C and this leads to death.
Edit to add: It feels like we're being set up for a pandemic.
[edit on 22-7-2008 by mystiq]
reply posted on 22-7-2008 @ 12:27 PM by ProTo Fire Fox
reply to post by mystiq
Yes that thread is rather interesting and i am posting in it; a member there has pointed out a flaw in the Video, a percentage which is very very wrong. Worth a read.
Fox
Yes that thread is rather interesting and i am posting in it; a member there has pointed out a flaw in the Video, a percentage which is very very wrong. Worth a read.
Fox
reply posted on 22-7-2008 @ 03:28 PM by 38181
reply to post by mystiq
Mistiq, what would be the MINIMUM age of a child to have any vaccines? Doctors seem to be pushy to get kids vaccinated in their early months of age. I have read a lot of scary things about kids getting Autism, etc from the vaccines and Im scared about it, Im also scared about NOT doing something to prevent deseases, could you point me in the right direction for TRUE reasearch? Sorry to get off subject.
This H5N1, how long does it last on a surface such as a doorknob or counter top before dying out?
Mistiq, what would be the MINIMUM age of a child to have any vaccines? Doctors seem to be pushy to get kids vaccinated in their early months of age. I have read a lot of scary things about kids getting Autism, etc from the vaccines and Im scared about it, Im also scared about NOT doing something to prevent deseases, could you point me in the right direction for TRUE reasearch? Sorry to get off subject.
This H5N1, how long does it last on a surface such as a doorknob or counter top before dying out?
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