What the hell is going on in dubai?

Originally posted by Sonya610

Originally posted by kacou
They are talking about encapsulating Dubai with a giant dome like glass where by Dubai will generate his own “temperate weather” when the rest of the world will succumb to harsh pollution.
Again, it is what I heard from the grapevine.

I heard the Saudis were thinking about building a dome and air conditioning an entire city, but that was a while ago and I think it turned out to be too expensive or some such thing.

I remember Bush saying he would dome cities in America and getting air conditioning, which I see nothing about.

Originally posted by Sleuth
Dubai is the place to go if you want fresh young meat or other things that are illegal pretty much everywhere else - young boys, young girls, drugs, whatever.

I think you're thinking of Bangkok. I'm pretty sure that's where all the pervs go. Also, Dubai recently got upset about people having sex on their beach, and are cracking down on topless sunbathers.

If this place is just for tourism, I dont know what
they were thinking. forget homosexuals vacationing
there, sodomy is illegal. forget familys with kids,
not many parents will want to take their kids to the
middle east, being so close to al qaeda and all.
forget middle class, they cant afford
to fly there. even poor people can get to and
vacation in las vegas.

who could it be for, the straight elite rich?
but their building so much, I didnt know there
were that many rich elite in the world.

this is strange.

and whats the difference between a 5star and
7star hotel, do they have personal attendants
ready to wipe your butt for you at the 7star hotel.

The country will be out of oil in 50 years.......that is why they are building all this stuff. How else are they going to make money once the oil is gone?

Dubai is not that an expensive a place to holiday at.

Remember, for many tourists, its a changeover/stopover destination as its at the halfway point for many long haul flights, especially from the UK.

Originally posted by Sleuth
Surely you can't be that naive. Dubai is the place to go if you want fresh young meat or other things that are illegal pretty much everywhere else - young boys, young girls, drugs, whatever.

The "tourists" are happy. The country makes heaps of money. The government turns a blind eye. Everybody happy. Well, almost everybody.

This is total BS. Dubai has some of the most backwards laws on the planet concerning drugs.

Years in jail for a speck of cannabis
Arrested for cannabis and porn
UN drug worker arrested for poppy seed

I could go on and on. If the elite want drugs and sex they get them anywhere. They don't care. Certainly the common man on the street better stay clear of Dubai if they feel they need to partake in those vices. Even the USA is more lenient.

It's like anywhere else.
You can find what you want if you know the places to look..

As far as 'exclusive'.
For the price of a one bedroom hovel in London you could buy a brand new 3 bedroom apartment in a newly built tower.

Cost of living is less.Salaries for tradesmen are higher.
It's even cheaper for Europeans as the Dirham is linked to the dollar..so the more the dollar drops.. the more you get for your eastern cash.

As for the 'political climate'. You have to understand,the Arabic Nations are still covertly 'tribal'.
They'll publicly stand in solidarity with their 'brothers' in conflict..but secretly want to see the bad guys get their botties whupped.

There's places you can buy alcohol freely if you have a license(with a residential visa).
Otherwise you can do a run from Ajman where they are available from supermarkets.. Just don't get caught in Sharjah where it is strictly prohibited.

Of course restaurants and bars serve it up in abundance..hence the dumb chick who got drunk n horny n stupider a bit more.

They are developing all this as an oasis simply to attract tourism..It's a wonderful place visually but can be a bit seedy too.
Crime is almost unheard of(reported crime is kept quiet though)

The worst thing about it is,all those construction sites are active 24hrs a day..only Friday will get you a break from building noise if you're unlucky enough to be local to one.

And all those beautiful buildings are constructed by what really amounts to slave labour from Asian labourers.Working in all temperatures in the hottest days too.

They have laws that state if it goes above 48C they down tools.. So it 'never does'.. even when I've measured it at 54C myself.

Nice place overall but the 'Brit ex-pat' attitude spoils it.

It's not surprising that Dubai is so rich. It's built on slave labour y'know...

It's funny how that fact isn't said much. Perhaps it's the future? Making garish hotels with naff James Bond themes for people with absolutely no taste.

Dubai is simply an example of over epic growth, wild spending and no planning for the future. The exact problem that caused all the mess with the rest of the world.

They will face a time of collapse, and it will be spectacular. I certainly won't care when that time comes though.

The people in Dubai do not understand the meaning of "conservation". They will have problems with basic resources in the future.

reply to post by Dulcimer


Uh, Dubai is the exact opposite of what you just said. They exemplify planning. They're building up a spectacular tourist industry, for when the oil money is gone. That's fantastic planning.

reply to post by nataylor


Agreed
Huge water desalination projects to turn a desert into a thriving fertile area.
VERY green I would say.

reply to post by Karlhungis


The rest of the Middle East will look like Dubai. Dubai used their money from oil and invested it in tourism. Other countries will soon follow.

fascinating. their gov't seems to mostly be an online gov't? weird.

the official portal of dubai government


and then there is a connecting link to "His Highness's" webpage w/ some pretty bizaree material such as the following poems (authored by him?)

The Sun of Ages Past

Now came the sinking
Of the sun of ages past

Into the depth of flames
Burning red, a ball of fire A lone wolf howled

As if forsaken by the night Then followed a dreadful silence
Where fear stretched seconds into centuries Reluctant time

Afraid of the duel Between itself and the formidable
Sheikh Maktoum, first among heroes In all his kinsmen's triumphs

He has a share His virtuous intentions
Deep-rooted as the mountains Supreme in rank and beneficence

The people follow his lead His generosity aids the needy
Flows to right and left His name shines forth with the nobility of his ancestors and alliances

All people of good deeds Maktoum, so protective that those close
Love him with unswerving loyalty Maktoum, so fearsome that his foes

Are driven mad with terror Maktoum, a true Arab
From a house of honour and prestige

The succession of nights astonishes
A thousand years have passed

In those still to come
Your excellence will never diminish Time fears your presence

But the people come to you from near and far The doors of your house stand wide open
For your charity has no parallel For good reason is trust placed in you

You rule with a justice ideal
Your name is so dear to my heart

And encircles my head like a crown

Oh fire, extinguish

Oh fire, extinguish by my tears your flames
Quench the inferno inside sheltered

The heat of flames in my heart over you prevailed
And I conceal the hell, fearing people may know

Through the night, my eye the anguish of longing endures
For an eye unseen by other eyes

Fuse embers with your embers and weep
Mightier than a volcano in heart of one forlorn

Turned ashes of yearning hotter than your wood
In a heart stolen by eyes and pierced

If only time drove me away from your bond
Neither cohere to you through a promise

Nor our tribe seek from your tribe
Closer than the closest with you to be

See my soul, ruined by you
And my heart offered itself on whetted edge

Enraptured, I sing from your love and delight
And perfect tunes in every melody

Nostalgia and weeping because of you
When combined tears with flames, aroused passions

the above two poems along w/ others and more bizarre things can be found source

Ah Dubai. Pretty much the craziest skyline in the world. The part that gets me is how fast they build, and how they are way out pacing themselves. Sure, they are taking advantage of their blooming (more like exploding) economy, but all those skyscrapers, there isn't enough rich people to fill all of them up! Even those islands that go for 20 to 30 million. There isn't enough people in the world that can fill that. The city has way to many massive, expensive high rise condos for itself. Like I said, there isn't enough rich people, and soon, they will realise this. You could probably take all the worlds "elite" and stuff them in Dubai right now, and there would still be condos for sale. It doesn't make sense to me.

It won't be too long before the supply of rich condos way out numbers the demand for it, and then, the prices of the condos will have to drop to accommodate "lessers" and soon enough, the once rich city will be overrun with bad stuff like every other large downtown.

Public Affection
It is not permitted for individuals to kiss publically, and you will not find any nude beaches or communities in the United Arab Emirates.

Being with the Opposite Sex
It is not permitted for a male and female to share a closed space (a flat, room, tinted car, etc) away from the sight of other people, unless they are blood relatives or legally married. According to the Islamic law governing the Emirates, offenders will be being jailed and deported, and possibly lashed.

(although if in the limits of dubai, it is not implemented.... but still)

source
you can find the other do's and dont's there

reply to post by Truther


Don't think the "Elite", whatever that is, will be very interested in Dubai, as their permanent residence. Dubai has enormous wealth, even more now with the price of oil being what it is, but they also seem to have an enlightened Elite (Royal Family). They know that the fountain will soon be dry, in 10 or 20 years, and have been investing on alternative sources of wealth. This has not started now, it has been going on for at least three decades. They started by investing in foreign properties and industries and are know transforming their own country, besides having, arguably, the best shopping airport terminal in the world. Now they are heavily investing on tourism, but I think their target buyers will be more on the soccer, and sports, fields then among the "Elites". The "Elites" have taste, and that is something that can't be bought with money.

If you are looking for the "elites", they are where they have always been, and always will be: some examples being New England, New York, Washington area, Tuscany, Monaco, Switzerland, London, southern England, Southern France, Paris, Austria etc.

They aren't that hard to find...

Originally posted by Truther

There definatly something goin on, they've just built the worlds first 7star hotel, and of course the worlds first space port in the world, space port? a space port for the elite to visit other planets maybe, i dunno, just a thought..

There is nothing going on. They haven’t “just” built the 7 star hotel – it began in 1994 and they finished and opened it 9 years ago (1999).

The reason Dubai is building like mad (hotels, islands, resorts, water parks etc etc) is because at the moment Dubai is rich and survives on oil. The crown prince knows that oil is running out and within about 15 – 20 years Dubai will have no source left to fund the country, so he made the plan that they will need something else to drive the country – tourism.

This is the reason, Dubai wants to be eventually the best tourist destination in the world, they already have planes for the world’s largest theme and water parks. This is why they built the big islands (palm, the world etc etc)

Nothing suspicious, just a plan to keep the country going once the oil goes.

Mikey

Originally posted by Karlhungis
I think of Dubai kind of like an obscure rapper on MTV cribs. I wonder what Dubai will look like when the rest of the world finally syphons the middle east dry of all of its oil.

Considering the paradise status of Dubai I doubt they will go without oil. Since many of the world's rich buy estates down there it will get its fair share.

It's funny, but looking at the link in the OP I start thinking about Judge Dredd and the Mega Cities. I guess it isn't very far fetched, but there was a huge wasteland just outside those walls as well.

Originally posted by NorthWolfe CND
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If you are looking for the "elites", they are where they have always been, and always will be: some examples being New England, New York, Washington area, Tuscany, Monaco, Switzerland, London, southern England, Southern France, Paris, Austria etc.

They aren't that hard to find...

Out of curiosity does anyone know how Dubai would fare in a future climate disaster type scenario?

Maybe the old European fortresses aren't that safe anymore. Perhaps it's time for the 'elite' to up and move to better locations. I'm just speculating here and don't have enough facts about the climate, but somehow it seems to make at least a bit of sense.

When people begin to compete with others in the construction of taller buildings (Bukhari)

This is an Islamic sign of Judgement days, when they complete in the construction of taller buildings. I have been to Dubai the building are absolutely amazing. I would say the city is only like 3% complete, so much construction going on.