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What the hell is going on in dubai?

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posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 04:26 PM
reply to post by Truther

Coincidentaly, if you remember, Bush tried to contract all the shipping and ports in the US to a Dubai company. Pretty interesting!

posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 04:27 PM
reply to post by LeeHawt

This has nothing to do with the subject as it seems this thread has died, but remember this, they can do what they do because of the western countries dependency on oil.

If anything it will be the resting place for the elite when it all comes smashing down.

posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 04:28 PM
isn't Dubai muslim ruled?
g'head and move there...just don't spit on the sidewalk...

posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 04:36 PM
I beleive the saudis are one of the strongest bloodlines that are connected to the ancient sumerians. they are racing to complete these projects by 2012 because thats when our creators return from the 10th planet and the new world order really begins.

dont believe in the 10th planet? well you obviously dont beleive in 360 degrees in a circle, or in geometry, or agriculture, or medicine, or 12 hours in a day, 12 inches in a foot, 60 minutes in an hour, 60 seconds in a minute, or 7 days a week.

i could go on forever because our WHOLe SOCIETY is based around the sumerians that came up with these units of measurement. its no wonder the vatican led europe came out with the "metric system" to try to get us away from the sumerian standard system.

posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 04:40 PM
reply to post by Sleuth

Really? So it being strictly Islamic with the associated strict laws, is all a ruse? The fact that the wealthy jet setters who bring their bikini clad hangers-on get told to pormptly cover them up or they will be ejected from public areas, isn;t really a fact at all?

It would edify me greatly to see you backing up the idea that 'the place to go if you want fresh young meat or other things that are illegal pretty much everywhere else - young boys, young girls, drugs, whatever. ', do you have any links to support this claim? Because this is entirely contrary to the information I have seen in a variety of property programmes and a documentary on the building of the world islands.

Certainly that sort of thing will happen there, as it does everywhere else in the world, behind closed doors and in the utmost of secrecy, but you seem to be of the opinion that it's a well known and visible part of Dubai life?...

posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 04:46 PM
are their cranes falling off buildings and killing people too?

posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 04:51 PM
Dubai was a good place - 12 years ago

Unfortunately I was there and watched it built itself into a tourism haven. The roads are jammed, the education system isn't working and 85% of the population are outsiders brought into run the place.

Air pollution is bad, there doing okay on water as they use NG to run their desal plants.

Its badly overbuilt and its infrastructure isn't keeping up in particular the waste treatment plants and toxic waste disposal. Recycling is talked about and expatriate do some but in general it doesn't happen.

Its built on the abuse of third world labor but more and more workers are having families and their children have no rights at all in the land of birth.

Dubai itself is very moderate, of the seven Emirates its the most westernized, with Sharjah next door being the most restrictive. In Dubai you can get alcohol, movies, pork and sex. In Sharjah its more restrictive and lesser so in Abu Dhabi, Ajman and the other Emirates.

World elites? Hardly

posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 04:54 PM
looks like a skeptics paradise to me, a completely artificial environment for to keep people blinded from the beauty in others, the beauty in humanity, and the beauty from helping OTHERS IN NEED.

dubai is only worth its weight in gold if every living person is able to enjoy it once.

oil smoil! looks like a playground for all the unwise decision makers to practice their trade.

i dont mind that the worlds eyes may fix on dubai, im just wise enough to know that i need to look away from dubai to see the beauty in other things.

afterall, its only structures made of iron, cement, glass and fiber optics.. its what we do with them that matters.

posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 04:59 PM
It is weird. Why Dubai?

posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 05:01 PM
If you go on Google earth you can see the world islands and a second palm island. Also the burj dubai is already massive and under construction. You have to give credit to the place, it is a engineering and architectural feat.

posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 05:19 PM
This city will have more tourism than all the major city in the world combine

But you got to handed to them... the structure in AMAZING!

I'll like to live on one of those sky rise

posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 05:35 PM
They are going early, much like Qatar, for the corporate haven - tourism economy, before their oil runs out or people decide to use their brains and use electric cars or hydrogen. Smart plan. Somehow I don't see Dubai as part of the real elite highrollers, those are in a triangle, over London, DC and Rome, and I doubt that will change anytime soon. Plus there is this whole fixation over Jerusalem which they seem to have... Nah, Dubai is like an astute member commented with bad spelling, a sort of Arab beachside Vegas.

Lovely Architecture, nice beach, would not put a foot there unless the laws become much less arab and much more in tune with a free society. Somehow I don't see them pulling off all that they want to do with the place, but best of luck to them. While living in a megalopolis is nice I see the future of mankind in small and medium sized cities, under 500 000 people, which are far more manageable and friendly places to live in.

posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 06:01 PM
friends, i'm sorry to inform you but this is all just 'stacking the deck chairs on the titanic.'

the entire world has become Babylon and the entire world will be punished. also, have you seen simulations on rising seas? dubai will be under 100ft of water soon (well, maybe that's why they are building domes).

don't be fooled by any of this show of power and wealth. all the more spectacular the destruction will be. the elite have served the Master, and now they too will be recycled. the orders have come down. it will be a 'time on target' attack. or like it says in the bible: "the day of the lord will cometh like a thief in the night!"

the writing is on the wall

posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 06:06 PM
reply to post by Truther

Heres a good article I found ........

The Top 20 Reasons Not to Move to Dubai (in no particular order!)
By Tia O’Neill

August 2007
Living in Dubai is not wonderful and glamorous, as many would have you believe. Forget about what you’ve read, seen, and heard; those shiny buildings and manmade islands are all just smoke and mirrors. There are so many things wrong with this place that I have decided to compile a list, a must read if you are considering a potential move to Dubai.

1. There is no standard address system making mail-to-the door delivery impossible. In fact, it makes anything nearly impossible. The taxi driver, here for only two days, and having learned English from old Beatles albums has no clue where your house is. He won’t tell you that of course, he’ll just keep calling and saying, “Okay, okay. Yeah, yeah.” When you purchase something that requires delivery they do not have an address line, but a box where you are expected to draw a map. Not able to draw a map? Explain like this: I live on the street after the airport road, but before the roundabout. Go past the mosque and make a U-turn.

2. The government blocks all web sites that it deems “offensive” to the “religious, moral, and cultural values” of the UAE. That’s hard to swallow for a freedom loving American, but I get it. I do not understand, however, why all VOIP access and related web sites are blocked. I guess the government also takes offense to people inexpensively contacting their families back home. You’re welcome to call using the analog service provided by the government-owned telephone monopoly, but it will cost you a whole lot more. So much so, in fact, your frequency of calls will be greatly diminished if you can afford them at all. The government says VOIP is blocked for security reasons, yet even the residents of communist China and North Korea have access to these inexpensive calls.

3. It is really hot outside. Not Florida in July hot; Hot as if you were locked in a car in Florida in July with sufficient humidity to make it feel as though you are drowning. Hot as in 120 degrees with nearly 100% humidity. Do not look to the wind for relief. This is the equivalent of pointing a hairdryer on full blast directly at your face. Pour fine moon dust-like sand over your head as you do this and you get the picture.

4. There are too few trees, plants, and grass – or living things aside from us crazy humans, for that matter. Ever see a bird pant? I have. In my opinion, human beings were not meant to live in such a place. If we were, there would be sufficient water and shade. The only greenery around are the roadside gardens planted by the government, who waters the hell out of them in the middle of the day. Thanks a lot! Didn’t you say we should cut down on our water consumption because you are unable to keep up with the demand? I have an idea: let’s all move someplace where it’s not 120 degrees outside.

5. This country prides itself so much on its glitz and glamour that it put a picture of its 7-star hotel on the license plate. Yet, the public toilets in the king-of-bling Gold Souk district are holes in the ground with no toilet paper or soap. Hoses to rinse your nether regions, however, are provided. This results in a mass of water on the floor that you must stand in to pee. Try squatting without touching anything and keeping your pants from touching anything either. Oh yeah. It’s 120 degrees in there too.

6. This country encourages businesses to hire people from other poor countries to come here and work. They have them sign contracts that are a decade long and then take their passports. Even though taking passports is supposedly illegal, the government knows it happens and does nothing to enforce the law. These poor people are promised a certain pay, but the companies neglect to tell them they will be deducting their cost of living from their paychecks, leaving them virtually penniless – that is, if they choose to pay them. Companies hold back paychecks for months at a time. When the workers strike as a result, they are jailed. Protesting is illegal, you see (apparently this law IS enforced).

These people will never make enough to buy a ticket home and even if they do, they do not have their passports. They live crammed in portables with tons of others, in highly unsanitary conditions. The kicker: they are building hotels that cost more to stay in for one night than they will make in an entire year. Things are so bad that a number of laborers are willing to throw themselves in front of cars because their death would bring their family affluence in the form of diya, blood money paid to the victim’s family as mandated by the government.

7. Things are not cheaper here. I’m sick of people saying that. I read the letters to the editor page of the paper and people say to those who complain about the cost of living rising here, “Well, it’s cheaper than your home country or you wouldn’t be here.” The only thing cheaper here is labor. Yes, you can have a maid – but a bag of washed lettuce will cost you almost $10.

8. There are traffic cameras everywhere. I consider this cheating. Where are the damn cops? I drove around this city for weeks before I ever even saw a cop. Trust me, they need traffic cops here. People drive like idiots. It’s perfectly okay to turn left from the far right lane, but speeding even just a couple of kilometers over will get you fined. These cameras are placed strategically as you come down hills, or just as the speed limit changes. Before you know it…BAM! Fined. Forget to pay the bill and your car will be impounded..

9. The clothing some of these women wear makes no sense to me. I understand that as part of your religion you are required to dress in a particular way, but a black robe over your jeans and turtleneck and cover your head when it is 120 degrees outside? In the gym some women wear five layers of clothing…sweatpants and t-#s over sweaters with headscarves. Yet the men’s clothing makes absolute sense: white, airy, and nothing underneath but their skivvies.

10. People stare at you. I am sick of being stared at. I’m stared at by men who have never seen a fair-skinned blue-eyed woman before, or who have and think we are all prostitutes so it’s okay to stare. They stare at me when I am fully covered or with my husband, and even follow me around. It’s beyond creepy and has brought me to tears on more than one occasion. The staring is not limited to men, either. I’m stared at angrily by female prostitutes who think I am running in on their territory by having a few drinks with my husband at the bar.

11. Prostitutes? Oh hell yes, there are prostitutes. Tons of them. So, let me get this straight, I can’t look at a naked picture of a person on the Internet in the privacy of my home, but it is okay to go out in public and buy a few for the night?

12. Alcohol can only be sold in hotels and a handful of private clubs. A person must own a liquor license to consume in the privacy of their own home. To obtain a liquor license you must get signed approval from your boss, prove a certain level of salary that determines how much you are allowed to buy, and then submit several mug shots (aka passport photos) for approval. Pay the fee and the additional 30% tax on every purchase and you may drink at home. Then again, you can just pick up a few bottles in the airport duty free on your way in to the country, but two is the max. Why not just drive out to Ajman where it’s a free-for-all and load up the SUV? It’s easy enough, but crossing the Emirates with alcohol is illegal – particularly in the dry emirate of Sharjah, which just happens to lie between Dubai and Ajman. Go figure.

13. Not only do you have to get your boss’s approval to obtain a liquor license, but you must also get the company’s approval to rent property, have a telephone, or get satellite TV.

14. Back to the craziness on the roads: If I see one more kid standing up and waving to me out the back window while flying down the road at 160 kph…whatever happened to seatbelts?

15. When is the weekend again? Let me get this straight: the weekend used to be Thursday and Friday, but no one took off all of Thursday, just a half day really. Now the government says Friday and Saturday are the weekend, but some people only take off Friday, others still take a half day on Thursday, but some might just take a half day on Saturday instead. Anyway you slice it, Sundays are workdays and little business can be accomplished Thursday through Saturday.

16. There are few satellite television operators:. The movie channels play movies that are old and outdated. Many of them went straight to video back in the States. Every sitcom that failed in the US has been purchased and is played here. Old episodes of Knight Rider are advertised like it is the coolest thing since sliced bread. The TV commercials are repeated so often that I am determined NOT to buy anything I see advertised on television here just for thee principle of it. When I say repeated often, I mean every commercial break - sometimes more than once.

17. The roads are horribly designed. Driving ten minutes out of the way to make a U-turn is not uncommon. People are not able to give directions most of the time (remember reason #1), and the maps are little help because most have few road names on them, if any. Where is interchange four? You just have to hope you got on the freeway in the right place and start counting because they are not numbered. Miss it and you’ll likely end up on the other side of town before you are able to turn around and go back.

18. Taxi drivers are dangerous and smell. Taxi drivers work very hard here to earn a living because travel by taxi is still relatively inexpensive, even though the cost of living is not (see reason #7). Because of this you may have a driver who has had little sleep or the opportunity to shower for several days. Many of these drivers have just as much difficulty finding their way around as you do, but add to this a third-world country driving style and extreme exhaustion and, well, remember to buckle up for safety.

19. Speeding is an Emirati sport and Emirates Road is just an extension of the Dubai Autodrome. I know I keep mentioning the roads, but really, much of this city’s issues are encompassed by the erratic and irrational behavior displayed on its streets. Visions of flashing lights on even flashier, limo-tinted SUVs haunt me as I merge on to the highway. Local nationals are somehow able to get the sun-protecting dark window tint denied to us lowly expats and use it to hide their faces as they tailgate you incessantly at unbelievably high speeds, their lights flickering on and off and horn blaring repeatedly. It doesn’t matter that you can’t get over, or if doing so would be particularly dangerous, they will run you off the road to get in front of you. Don’t even think about giving someone the finger; the offense could land you in jail. Tailgating is, unbelievably, legal.

20. Dubai is far from environmentally friendly. Ever wonder how much damage those manmade islands are doing to the delicate ocean ecosystem? Coral reefs, sea grasses, and oyster beds that were once part of protected marine lands lie choked under a barrage of dredged up sea sand. Consider the waste that occurs from erecting buildings on top of these sand monsters and from the people that occupy them coupled with the lack of an effective recycling program and you have an environmental disaster on your hands. Add to this more gas guzzling SUVs than fuel-efficient cars on the road and the need for 24-hour powerful air-conditioning and its evident that the environment is not high on the priority list of the UAE.

So while I’m sure there are benefits to living in Dubai, tax breaks, multi-cultural environments, and beautiful buildings aside, reconsider your plans to move here if any of the above mentioned reasons strikes a chord within you. Dubai is a city caught in an identity crisis. Struggling somewhere between its desire to be a playground for the rich and its adherence to traditional Islamic roots, rests a city that lacks sufficient infrastructure to support its delusions of grandeur. Visit if you must, but leave quickly before you are sucked into its calamitous void.

posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 06:07 PM
reply to post by Truther

have you seen the building being built that has no definate shape? every part of it rotoates so to look at it its always in contant motion... the suits go for 4-40 million US dollars a pop... cant remember where exactly.. saw it on CNN website actually...

posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 06:12 PM
reply to post by LordThumbs

YES my friend! Well said.

While Dubai is stunningly beautfiul and is a credit to the creative force of human-kind, i cant help but agree that it is a physical representation of the exact direction we SHOULD NOT be heading in.

The most beautiful thing in the world lies within. It is equal to every man, woman and child, regardless of class. And it connects us all.

Dubai is the embodiment of the seperated, materialistic, third dimensional existence we are all currently experiencing.

Talk about worshipping technology!

It is for THIS reason that i think Dubai has a very significant place in earth's future history.

Seems as if they are almost building the new Atalntis out there. They say Atlantis' downfall was its near worship of technology.

If man as we now know it were to be wiped off the earth, it would be Dubai which would be on par with what we now describe as Atlantis.

It would seem to embody our technological level of achievement and indicate the scope of our achivements on earth.

I would not at all be surprised to find sacred geometry type messages encoded into some of the structures similar to that which we find in ruins across the world today.

I wonder if anyone has looked into this?

posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 06:59 PM
A glass dome in dubai will quickly turn into a dirt iglo.

Having spent some time in the region, including dubai, I can tell you that there is so much dirt in the air that it is astounding.

I do not think it is such a grand location for that particular idea.

posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 07:12 PM
Since we lack a travel section, and this thread is most assuradly not about UFOs, I will do the n4xt best thing.

Moving is progress.

posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 07:31 PM
It's called diversification. Dubai doesn't have a lot of oil, it's the neighbor Emirate, Abu Dhabi, that has most of the oil. So they came up with another way to bring in cash:

- Tourism
- Good tax structure attracting business
- Great infrastructure, and modern living conditions

I've been working there on projects for almost 2 years now, mostly in the hotel and real estate sector, and met with countless officials and large companies...nothing sinister going on over there, no alien conspiracies, and no NWO stuff like giant domes and so on. Yes it's impressive what they achieved so far, and there new plans like Dubai Land and so on are equally impressive, but that's about it.

The only "conspiracy" is that they're relatively unharmed by terrorist attacks. That's because it's a business platform for Westerners and people from the East as well, why would they wanna bomb their own income source?

posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 07:42 PM

Originally posted by Vector JReally? So it being strictly Islamic with the associated strict laws, is all a ruse?

I thought it was strictly Islamic too, but just the other day there was an ATS article about a drunk british woman that had sex on the beach and was being prosecuted (after a warning, and after calling the beach patrol guy a f*&% Muslim.

Apparently alcohol is allowed, as is lounging on the beach in skimpy clothing, though they are thinking of segregating the beaches. No doubt drunk Brits having sex on them is encouraging the segregation movement.

I would not visit Dubai (in part because I could not afford it). Now Syria, that would be interesting.

[edit on 21-7-2008 by Sonya610]

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