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B-52 bomber carrying 6 crashes off Guam

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posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 12:28 AM
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So far two crew have been recovered (condition is unkonown) but the fate of the other 4 is not yet known. This is the second incident at Guam so far this year.

Hopefull all the crew is recovered safely If two got out its possible there are more.

news.yahoo.com...




posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 12:34 AM
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I wonder if there were any nukes on that plane...



posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 01:00 AM
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Isnt Guam the main staging area for B-29's during WW2??

As i rememberd there were many B-29's that just rolled off the runnway, not gaining the lift they needed, even if there was enough space for takeoff??


Think I remembered that from a dokumentary about the nukes used......


Could it be that Guam has a strange weather phenomen like a low pressure constantly above/around the island??



posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 01:00 AM
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Can someone explain to me Exactly what the heck is going on there?

First time ok no problem

But a second time?

Rofl

obviously there is something going on over there - Who knows what

First a b2

Now a b-52

Bye bye Billions of dollars

Shoot - And you would think - they would've been more cautious after the first accident

I call BS over there - There is something going on in guam or around their airbase That they are not telling anyone

And it's serious too



posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 01:56 AM
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Found a Norwegian news paper that has info on this:
www.aftenposten.no...



Translated from Norwegian:
An American bomber of the B-52 type has ceashed into the pacific -
6 persons was on the plane, and 2 has been picked up from the ocean after the crash, uncertain if they are alive.

The plane was sent to Guam to join a parade to celebrate the aneversary for the liberation from Japanese domain.

The info has been released by the US department of defence.



posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 02:32 AM
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Calm down bud!!

First...It's amazing that the BUFF can get off the ground in the first place.

Second...Planes crash from time to time. They are machines and those machines are not perfect. There old and maintenance intensive.

Three...The media loves to play angles like this one. A military plane crashes in Guam. The second in such a short time. Blah, blah blah.
They love getting people like you pissed off.

All things in perspective, bud.



posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 05:21 AM
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The crash of a U.S. Air Force B-52 off the coast of Guam has ended an incredible long-run of no-losses in the aging fleet.
The crash, which may have cost the live of all six personnel onboard, would be the first B-52 loss since 1994, when four crew members died at Fairchild AFB while practicing for an air show. The crash was blamed on pilot error.
Since then, the B-52 has had only suffered two Class A incidents, one in 1995 and another in 2005, but no loss of aircraft or crew. In fact, in the past ten years the have had a Class A rate of a mere 0.41 per 100,000 flight hours.

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Hope they all got out.
We will have to wait for updates.



posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 05:44 AM
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its actually crash number 4 - feb 12th was a prowler , then feb 23rd the B2 , march saw the B1-b landing accident and now this



posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 08:34 AM
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Flight has just released their article now which ties together all the other news postings before now. link:
www.flightglobal.com...

2 facts that I didn't catch in the other articles/

No identification number has been given for the aircraft, which is said to have come down about 40km (25mi) from Guam. The USAF says an inquiry board will be established.

The aircraft crashed at 09:45 local time today, the USAF states, northwest of the Guam coast.


00:45 GMT correct? 7:45 local time here
So t if there are survivors that have been in the water for an hour 45 min at this point.



posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 08:44 AM
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You mean 14 hours and 45 minutes.



posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 08:48 AM
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Wait a minute...where did those 45 min come from? And I was one hour wrong too. The plane crashed 13 hours ago, no?



posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 09:31 AM
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Well if it is 12:30 in guam right now I don't see how they have been in the water for 9:45 thats not 13 hours in between. That gives me just over 3 hours. (all times local to Guam.)

[edit on 21-7-2008 by Canada_EH]



posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 06:25 PM
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If so, this thread must have been started before the plane even crashed...



posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 06:45 PM
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CNN is now reporting that the two crewmen found were both dead, and that no other aircrew have yet been recovered


Sad news.



posted on Jul, 22 2008 @ 07:38 AM
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Have a link with a updated from the USAF on the 2 crewmen and the search effort.
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www.af.mil...


The bodies of two of the six Airmen on board the aircraft have been recovered. Identities of the crew members are being withheld pending family notification.

On-scene in a 900-square mile search area are crews with two U.S. Coast Guard vessels and the USS John McCain, an Arleigh Burke class destroyer. Additionally, Navy MH-60S Knighthawk helicopters from Helicopter Sea Combat Squadron 25 and U.S. Air Force F-15E Strike Eagles from the 389th Expeditionary Fighter Squadron joined a Navy P-3 Orion from Kadena Air Base in Japan. Guam police and fire department rescue units also joined the search.

Coast Guard assets were on scene within 45 minutes of the accident, and the teamwork we've had with them, the Navy and other local and federal agencies has been tremendous," General Owens said.


Very sad to hear. From my understanding the B-52 6 ejection seats for the whole crew so the fact that only 2 crew have been found may hint that at least some of the crew stayed with the plane as it went in.



posted on Jul, 23 2008 @ 10:36 AM
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Air force has released the name of one of the crew. Maj. Christopher Cooper's body was recover along with another one of the crew who has not been disclosed as they are still try to notify next of kin. Also mentioned is that Air Force forensic analysis specialists are working on identifying additional remains recovered. link and quote below.
www.af.mil...


Air Force officials here determined July 23 that none of the six crewmembers survived the B-52 Stratofortress crash July 21 off Guam's northwest coast.

Search and rescue teams have now shifted their focus from rescue operations to recovery of the aircrew.

"Losing this bomber crew has been a tragedy felt by everyone here and across the Air Force," said Brig. Gen. Douglas H. Owens, the 36th Wing commander. "Our deepest sympathies and prayers are with the families of these Airmen as we continue to support them during this difficult time."


Our thoughts go out to all those in the USAF and families effected in this tragedy.



posted on Jul, 23 2008 @ 03:12 PM
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All 6 names have been released.


Air Force officials have released the names of the Barksdale crew members of the B-52 that crashed July 21 off Guam's northwest coast. Five of the six crew members were stationed here.

They are Maj. Christopher M. Cooper, 33, aircraft commander; Maj. Brent D. Williams, 37, navigator; Capt. Michael K. Dodson, 31, co-pilot; 1st Lt. Joshua D. Shepherd, 26, navigator; and 1st Lt. Robert D Gerren, 32, electronic warfare officer.

The sixth crew member was Col. George Martin, flight surgeon and deputy commander of 36th Medical Group at Andersen Air Force Base, Guam.



posted on Jul, 28 2008 @ 01:57 PM
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Wow real lack of interest in this one. Anyways here is the news release from the service held for the 6 airmen. link:
www.af.mil...




7/28/2008 - Brig. Gen. Doug Owens, 36th Wing commander, delivers a heartfelt message to more than 1,800 guests who attended a memorial ceremony July 25 at Andersen's Hangar One. The ceremony honored the six Airmen who died when their B-52 crashed July 21, 25 miles off the coast of Guam. Their mission was to flyover Guam's Liberation Day parade celebrating the island's liberation from Japanese occupation in World War II. (U.S. Air Force photo/Airman 1st Class Courtney



posted on Jul, 28 2008 @ 09:32 PM
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Originally posted by Phoebus
Could it be that Guam has a strange weather phenomen like a low pressure constantly above/around the island??


I would love to hear from anyone if that is the case.

Thanks for the updates Canada_EH


Been off with the fairies.
Hurt myself at work.



posted on Jul, 28 2008 @ 09:59 PM
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Originally posted by Phoebus
Could it be that Guam has a strange weather phenomen like a low pressure constantly above/around the island??


Guam has launched hundreds of missions from there with no problems. It's very strange to have lost so many planes there, but only two of them could have possibly been caused by a weather phenomenon. And if it was weather, then the crew should have had SOME warning, or at least enough time to radio a mayday.



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