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That's an interesting question to ask... What makes one group a direct descendent of another? You've got a handful of groups calling themselves Knights Templar today, where most try to incorporate some sort of ideology, but none can prove a direct, unbroken chain with the original group. You've got splinter factions of the Rosicrucians or the OTO, all claiming to be the real deal. You've got Pink Floyd still going on as Pink Floyd after Roger Waters left the band.
Originally posted by jackinthebox
The question is, does the overall Nazi ideology still exist today, in the specific form of a group that directly identifies itself as "SS?" Or has the overall ideology gone on, as a whole, to morph into some new identity? Or has the ideology truly been shattered, so that we only see remnants spring up here and there incorporated in a variety of different groups.
Originally posted by THE-LURKER
I am curious to know if anyone believes the Schutzstaffel (SS) still exist in any capacity. They were a very powerful organization at the height of their power and it would shock me if they died out completely in the years following WWII. I know there were small bands of ex-SS men that helped each other escape but, did the organization survive? I believe that if they did they would have to be one of the most secret societies in existance today. Share your thoughts.
If all of you were faced with succumbing to the NWO or joining a modern day SS or similar National Socialist group, what side would you join?
National-Socialism believes there are two fundamental ways of living, and thus two fundamental types of society based upon these two ways. There is the material way of living, with individuals striving for, or pursuing, "happiness", material comfort and wealth. Then there is the way of excellence, of idealism (or nobility) with individuals striving for an idealistic goal. National-Socialism believes the material way is decadent - a waste of our lives, a waste of the evolutionary potential which we possess.
Furthermore, National-Socialism believes that the life of an individual is better, more fulfilling, if the idealistic goal that is pursued is in accord with the will of Nature. That is, if this idealistic goal aids Nature, and continues the evolutionary work of Nature. This stems from the National-Socialist assertion that we, as human beings, are part of Nature, and subject to the laws of Nature. All other philosophies, political beliefs or religions assert that we, as human beings, are somehow "above", different or separate from, Nature and her laws.
One of the fundamental aims of National-Socialism is to continue the work of Nature by creating better, more advanced, individuals and by creating a better, more advanced, more civilized society for these individuals to live and flourish in. National-Socialism believes that better individuals can only be created through the pursuit of noble values - by individuals changing themselves for the better through a personal act of will. This requires individuals, and society itself, to champion and uphold those values which create personal excellence, which aid the individual change necessary. According to National-Socialism, these values are honour, loyalty and duty - for only these values create the right type of idealistic person, someone with a purity of purpose. It is these values, and these values alone, which create a civilized individual. A civilized person is a more evolved individual - someone with a higher, a noble, personal character. Further, it is the duty of each noble individual to act in accord with the workings, the will, of Nature herself.
According to National-Socialism, the folk - or "race" - is how Nature works. For National-Socialism, the folk is Nature made manifest; the folk is our connection to Nature. The different folks which exist among our human species are an expression of evolution in action - of Nature working over Aeons to produce diversity and difference. Thus, the folk is an expression of our very humanity - of our human identity.
Accordingly, National-Socialism desires to preserve and further evolve, in an honourable way, the folk itself. All other philosophies, political beliefs or religions desire to destroy the folk through creating multi-racial, multi-cultural societies.
However, it needs to be stressed that National-Socialism - being based upon honour - demands that all National-Socialists treat all people, of whatever race and culture, with respect. To do otherwise, is contrary to the ethics of National-Socialism, based as these ethics are upon honour.
For National-Socialism, the fundamental meaning of our lives, as individuals, is to strive to continue the work of Nature. This means striving to advance ourselves through upholding, in our own lives, the civilized values of honour, loyalty and duty; [...............]