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Activists: 9 Iranians Convicted of Adultery Set to Be Stoned to Death

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posted on Jul, 20 2008 @ 11:01 AM
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Activists: 9 Iranians Convicted of Adultery Set to Be Stoned to Death


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TEHRAN, Iran — Eight women and one man convicted of adultery are set to be stoned to death in Iran, activists said Sunday.

Lawyer and women's rights activist, Shadi Sadr, said the nine were convicted of adultery in separate cases in different Iranian cities.

"Their verdicts are approved, and they may be executed at any time," she told reporters.

Sadr, who has been leading a campaign in Iran against stoning deaths since 2006, said trial protocol was not applied properly in the cases. Six of the nine were convicted based solely on judges' decisions with no witnesses or the presence of their lawyers during their confessions, she said.

Most of the nine come from areas of Iran that have low rates of literacy and some did not understand the cases against them, she said.
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posted on Jul, 20 2008 @ 11:01 AM
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How can people justify this type of penalty? This is a result of Islamic law. It does not belong in the 21st century society, regardless of what it's defenders say.

www.foxnews.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Jul, 20 2008 @ 11:17 AM
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Did American press ever said anything nice about Iran???



posted on Jul, 20 2008 @ 11:23 AM
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WOW....not sure if I have anything else to say besides that, that's just messed, I couldn't imagine being stoned to death because I cheated on my spouse which
I'm probably not happy with to be cheating on in the first place, makes me appreciate the freedoms and what not I have.

For me it should be more an eye for an eye, the spouse should get to go sleep with someone else.

Half the population would probably be dead if we all lived like this. Honestly, join us in the 21st century.

guess I did have more to say than just wow



posted on Jul, 20 2008 @ 11:31 AM
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Stupid question I have. Where are the men that had the affairs? Eight women and there should be eight more men, right?

The music teacher probably had the sex with daughter someone that had a little power.

Roper



posted on Jul, 20 2008 @ 11:33 AM
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"Most of the nine come from areas of Iran that have low rates of literacy and some did not understand the cases against them, she said."



Thats so much BS dude, the media spins everything. The people know dang good and well what theyre charged with. And your genitalia does nto give you the right to risk someone elses life. One of them could have given their spouse aids.

I dont agree with execution but I totally agree with some kind of punishment for adultery. We need it in the USA. People would stop preading STDs then and divorce would drop to an all time low.

Way to many paris hiltons, we teach our kids to grow up and be trash. Eff as many people as they can etc...

The bible says stone to death so, either the bible lies or modern day christians are all going to hell.



posted on Jul, 20 2008 @ 11:34 AM
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I am 100% against the death penalty. In any form.
But I am also 100% against dictating our form of law and justice to another country.
The people that live there are well aware of the law, and the penalties of breaking the law. Just as someone in a southern state is aware of what happens if you commit a murder down there. I'm not trying to compare the two different crimes. Just drawing a comparison

I know in Canada people are shocked when a mentally retarded kid gets put to death in America.

In Islam this is one of the worst kinds of crime a person can commit. It is seen as an affront to god. I know there is an organization that is attempting to have this law changed. You can sign a petition on their web page. I will try and find it.
Great post though, I think far more attention should be brought to things like this.


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posted on Jul, 20 2008 @ 01:50 PM
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I think the death penalty is a bit harsh...

Excluding agreement with a partner (or partners!) that a relationship (including marriage) is open, I think adultery should be punished. Where divorce or splitting from a relationship is possible then people should either divorce or split - anything less is wrong.

Before someone types it, divorce is allowed in Islam (prenuptial agreements are used).

This next bit may sound harsh to many...

I think, for those whom have reached adulthood, any maliciously intentioned, non-consented (or consented under duress) acts committed by adults against others should be punished by the removal of a finger or toe. Repeated offenses should merit additional fingers or toes. Starting with the a little finger and working inwards toward the thumb. No state provided social care should be provided to assist any offender with removed digits to conduct life where it has been negatively affected by a digit's removal. When no fingers or toes remain, the hands should be taken etc... I think that should stop maliciousness.

Obviously, benign, rebellious or 'survival necessary' acts (non-maliciously conducted) ought to be treated lightly. Indeed, 'survival necessary' and rebellious acts can be indicative of societies failings.

And, no, I'm not Muslim (if you're wondering).

Edited to add:

The eight "missing/unpunished" men might not have been aware of their to-be-punished woman's status as being married. Also, who said the women had affairs with other men (they might have had affairs with women (8 women=4 couples).

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posted on Jul, 20 2008 @ 08:52 PM
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Originally posted by Rapacity


Edited to add:

The eight "missing/unpunished" men might not have been aware of their to-be-punished woman's status as being married. Also, who said the women had affairs with other men (they might have had affairs with women (8 women=4 couples).

[edit on 20/7/08 by Rapacity]


For the act of adultery, cutting off a finger is still a bit much.

If the women had homosexual affairs I think the Muslim religion would call it that and deal with the act of homo sex. They kill them too. Dead is dead.

In Islam women are treated as property and the men get away with murder, see "honor killings".

Roper

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posted on Jul, 20 2008 @ 09:10 PM
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Originally posted by jsobecky


How can people justify this type of penalty? This is a result of Islamic law. It does not belong in the 21st century society, regardless of what it's defenders say.

www.foxnews.com
(visit the link for the full news article)


Its way way past the time when this type of penalty was abolished forever. That they cannot see this just shows how barbaric they really are. Add Saudis to this rant as well whilst we are here.

Sharia law needs stamping out forever. That the UK and US / Canada see fit to let it operate within their borders beggars belief. What next? executions on the penalty spot at wembly? hanging people from the patriots goal arm at half time?

The more I see of so called 'Godly Sharia law' the sicker it makes me feel.



posted on Jul, 20 2008 @ 10:10 PM
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For the people calling for a legal punishment for the act of adultry...think about it for a minute...

You can't legislate morality...and before I get flamed, I'm not talking about murder or rape or crimes of that nature...and theres the key point...people get executed for a crime...a serious one...I'm talking about what goes on between two adults.

and to finish this thought....most adults during the course of their marriage or relationship will be tempted, and a good many will stray...it's human nature...I think you'll find that if this was really how the world worked...our overall population would be greatly diminished.



posted on Jul, 20 2008 @ 10:33 PM
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This is exactly why this country is so messed up.Over here in the states you cheat on your wife with some people your a hero and here you get death.Sick.....btw i don't believe in adultery either but this proves the country is nuts.I'm sure alot of other countries are like this or worse.



posted on Jul, 20 2008 @ 10:36 PM
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that is what make islam stupid, stone the females and the guys that did it get off scott free
Islam is horrible that way
IMHO



posted on Jul, 20 2008 @ 10:56 PM
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Originally posted by Memysabu
"Most of the nine come from areas of Iran that have low rates of literacy and some did not understand the cases against them, she said."



Thats so much BS dude, the media spins everything. The people know dang good and well what theyre charged with. And your genitalia does nto give you the right to risk someone elses life. One of them could have given their spouse aids.

I dont agree with execution but I totally agree with some kind of punishment for adultery. We need it in the USA. People would stop preading STDs then and divorce would drop to an all time low.

Way to many paris hiltons, we teach our kids to grow up and be trash. Eff as many people as they can etc...

The bible says stone to death so, either the bible lies or modern day christians are all going to hell.



Yes, let's institute morality laws and nanny legislation because that has always worked well in the past in this country.

This story is the sort of antiquated cold war mentality of the old men in power today. This too will change, and hopefully that attorney makes headway before they are murdered by the state.

[edit on 20-7-2008 by projectvxn]



posted on Jul, 20 2008 @ 10:57 PM
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too bloody right,

Im sure some look at us ' west ' as barabaric for putting a needle into someones arm, or jailing someone over pot.

Each country to their own, so long as they arent hurting other nations around them.
The people know the Law, and the consequences.

Here in Aus, Miss Corby was sentnace to 20yrs or something in jail for 'supposidly' taking over drugs.

While we consider that an absolute mockery of law, she was warned of the extreme laws.

When you enter bali, ther's a big sign saying
'' drug smugglers will be executed ''

While im sure there's not signs all over Iran

'' Adultery will be met with death ''

they all know.



posted on Jul, 20 2008 @ 10:58 PM
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Hey! If you believe in the old testament, the Torah or the Koran, thats what the book says.........Either believe it, or shut up!



posted on Jul, 20 2008 @ 11:12 PM
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Originally posted by StefanO
Hey! If you believe in the old testament, the Torah or the Koran, thats what the book says.........Either believe it, or shut up!


Well aren't you a fine addition to ats.

Just because it is mentioned as an acceptable form of punishment for people thousands of years ago doesn't mean we should just blindly follow.

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posted on Jul, 20 2008 @ 11:22 PM
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Trying to pretend this stuff is unique to Islam ignores a lot of history, including the good old Christian tradition of burning people at the stake...


Don't kid yourself, this is exactly the kind of thing our own religious extremists would (still) be doing if they were (still) in charge.

Iran is a country in the grip of a theocratic fundamentalist regime with a medieval mindset, and I don't doubt the truth of this story.

But humanitarian outrage is not the reason these stories get so much attention in the Western press. A propaganda campaign to get more people behind a war against Iran is.



posted on Jul, 20 2008 @ 11:24 PM
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Im torn.

On one hand, the crime does not fit the punishment at all. I do not condole the death penalty for much, and certainly not for something as trivial as adultery.

But, these people knew darn well the consequences of their actions and they still chose to follow through with it. They wanted to break the law knowingly, full aware of the punishment.

The punishment should definitley not be as severe, but sadly these people were aware of such a serious consequences if caught... tough one.



posted on Jul, 20 2008 @ 11:26 PM
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Originally posted by StefanO
Hey! If you believe in the old testament, the Torah or the Koran, thats what the book says.........Either believe it, or shut up!



LOL I'm sure glad your not in any form of power



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