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posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 03:17 PM

Originally posted by ethann
I not only think i have been watched but also attacked for putting anti Bush comments on the internet such as saying he belongs in jail.

if they did THAT half of America would be in jail... Some of us have even mentioned his grandfather Prescott Bush along with the Rockefellers and Satandard Oil funded the NAZI's

But hey that's history so nothing to worry about there
Now what do you have to say about THAT Herr Bush?

Uh huh thought so ...

posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 03:37 PM

Originally posted by Sharr
I hope this isnt a sign that canada is becoming as bad as the U.S (no offence lol) in terms of gov't harassment :S lol

Oh ye silly little Lemmings.... trying to play with the Big Boys

Canada has been right in the middle of it since WWII... remember the Avro? You think that was a joke? Made right there in Toronto... had that nice USAF logo on it...

When I got my private pilot license at the Island Airport, I still have the charts with the no fly zone over Alberta... back then it was a 'shoot to kill' zone want to know why?

Go to google maps and put in these coordinates..
+50° 29' 51.74", -110° 57' 10.76" (just copy and paste)

That is near CFB Suffield... see those circles? Those are bomb targets... they were meant for the British Atomic bomb testing... The Brits still use that range today for weapons testing INCLUDING chemical weapons and NERVE GAS

Nerve gas tests revealed (Toronto Star, July 18, 2005). Soldiers, scientists exposed to sarin, VX gas, documents show.

The article has been pulled I will have to contact the Star and find a copy

Why did they stop the Atomic Bombs? Well it turns out that the surrounding area is Alberta's riches Natural Gas area If you look on google all around the 'target' you will see the grid work of gas wells..

Now THAT would have been an impressive sight dropping a Nuke into that

Now then you still think your important enough to have such attention form Foreign Spooks? If so I would love to see what you have...

[edit on 21-7-2008 by zorgon]

posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 03:51 PM

Originally posted by kshaund
I still have no idea if Frank is real or not (in that he's a contactee and not being used by the government as a decoy or something) -

I later asked Frank (by mail, weeks later) if he had any idea who that was and he said oh yes, absolutely, it was Donn Thor (Val's brother, I believe).

- I've never been able to figure it out completely to my satisfaction - and if it was Donn Thor, I still don't know if those guys are supposedly AOK either!

that is an amazing story...

Do you still have Frank's email? I have a few questions for him...

But you know what doesn't make sense here is that it appears by your comments that you know so very little about this... certainly going by what you just said above...

Now you COULD just be pulling our leg...

Or you didn't pay attention to Frank and forgot what google was for...

But since you brought it up... for the others here so they are not confused..

Here are Jill, Donn and Val Thor

Three Venusians: Jill, Donn and Valiant Thor landed in Virginia in 1957. They were apprehended by Police officers and were escorted to Washington D.C. to speak with the Secretary of Defense. Soon police from every conceivable district and agency had joined in, all trying to claim their right to escort them to President Dwight D. Eisenhower. Val Thor was the commander of a spaceship with a crew of about 200. It was believed that his ship eventually ended up in the Lake Mead area before it disappeared below the surface. Nixon allegedly met Val Thor. A man named Frank Stranges claims that he keeps contact with Valiant and Crew.

Here is the full text... Art Bell interview with Stranges

Look up also the "Greada Treaty"

There was an old movie made... that was taken from these events and tells the story very well... I would recommend you watch it... Iys black and white but worth it.. "The Day the Earth Stood Still"

Here is the trailer

posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 03:54 PM
reply to post by zorgon

First of all, i never expressed "fear" i'm not scared of anything and i REFUSE to buy into govt scare tactics. (im sorry if my language mislead anyone to believe that im afraid) Yeah, as i stated earlier, i AM a little "freaked" considering i may be under CONSTANT surveillance... meaning i have ABSOLUTELY NO privacy... meaning they are watching my EVERY move. Wouldnt you be a "tad freaked" as well? But im not scared of anybody, they will not shut me up. I will continue to spread peace and awareness...fear is the fuel to their fire and i refuse to help the Illuminati/Elites by giving them my thoughts and energies. All i was trying to do was post my experience in hopes that others had experienced the same thus perhaps learning how to protect myself and my family in the process.

Knowledge is power...
And im only here to learn

yours in the light...

posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 04:01 PM
reply to post by Sharr

This is very simular to what I've been experiencing since 1997, the year I bought a computer and tried the internet for the first time. I do a lot of research on archeology, ancient knowledge and astonomical discoveries and new theories. I also have a electronic engineering degree. The thing I started noticing first was the my electronic equipment was being tampered with. My home stereo, oscilloscope, breadboards, soldering irons, circuit etching chemicals and digital voltmeters. When I opened up my equipment to see what the issue was, I can clearly see new soldered points in the circuitry along with wires being connected to other points in the equipment. Reversing the criss crossed wires, I would get the equipment working again only to find it malfuctioning a few weeks later, again, rewired incorrectly. Not only would my equipment be tampered with, my extra electronic components for building new circuitry would disappear as soon as I would purchase it. The data that I would collect on my computer off of the internet would also disappear along with any bookmarks that I had saved. Not only would my stuff be tampered with, I started noticing different vehicles following me, talking on radios or hand held communication devices. This in itself wouldn't make me think they were following me if it wasn't for the fact that they were definately trying to hide from me the fact they were even talking on radios. They really need to go back to skulking school. This went on for about a year and a half and I decided to tell my boss what was going on, and of course, he laughed and said I was crazy. I have thick skin and it didn't bother be. Strange things have been happening to me for all of my life. One day, my boss had to pick me up for work since my vehicle was being worked on. He honked his horn, I picked up my tools, walked outside and locked my front door. When I got inside my bosses car, he was quite freaked out, and when I asked what the problem was he exclaimed, "That guy just took your picture!" and pointed at a vehicle that was parked across the street from my apartment. As I looked over at him, the vehicle took off like a "bat out of hell". When I questioned him further, he said that as I locked my front door, he saw this guy pull up a 35mm camera with a telephoto lens and started snapping pictures of me on my front porch. After he told me this, I laughed at him and said, "Not so crazy after all, huh?" He never made fun of me again. Well, it's eleven years later, and it is still coninuing. I'm spending a lot of time and money repearing or replacing all of my pocessions including my clothes. They like ripping holes in everything I buy. The feeling I'm getting is that they are trying to keep me busy doing this then doing the research I was doing in the first place. There's a lot more I can tell you but at the moment I don't have time to tell you everything. I'll keep you posted. David

posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 04:16 PM

posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 04:24 PM

Originally posted by Sharr
First of all, i never expressed "fear" i'm not scared of anything and i REFUSE to buy into govt scare tactics.

Funny I could have sworn I quoted 'freaked'

Wouldnt you be a "tad freaked" as well?

Actually no... I took a different approach... I invited 'them' in to talk about it... amazing results that produced... but hey thats just me

But im not scared of anybody, they will not shut me up. I will continue to spread peace and awareness...

Well see that's what I was getting at... Just what is it you have on 'them' that would make them interested in you?

Best safety is lay it on the table... then we all know and they can't stop it... after all... that is what we are all here for, n'est pas?

posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 04:56 PM
I call this post a load of crap. You read the post by the other user who had his truck and house photographed by an old guy in a car and you decided to make up some BS of your own. Your story just sounds kooky and contrived.

posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 05:05 PM

Originally posted by zorgon

Actually no... I took a different approach... I invited 'them' in to talk about it... amazing results that produced... but hey thats just me

Here we go again, Zorgon the magnificent.

How about you lay it on the table. What do you have on them that you can have a cozy pow pow?

posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 05:19 PM
reply to post by Sharr

You'll be afraid when they levy the homeland security patriot act charge on you for subversive tough talk. You go by by without habeas corpus rights even though the supreme court voted it back on.

Never say never and know you are in the cross hairs.

posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 05:22 PM

Originally posted by Tuebor
How about you lay it on the table. What do you have on them that you can have a cozy pow pow?

Well it all began over a year ago... with someone posting here at ATS... he is still a member but currently away on 'assignment' I could give you the member name but I won't

After many exchanges he wrote to me and told me that I had no reason to believe him so gave me his real name, suggesting I 'check him out' through my 'other sources' and he was who he claimed...

Funny thing is he has hinted a few times in threads that 'if people knew who I worked for they would 'mess their drawers' but who ever pays attention on here?

He took a trip to meet various Pegasus members around the USA... spent three days talking with John and myself... and later wrote "I hope you don't think I was spying on you "

Thought never crossed my mind...

Hi Ron..

Your note is full of so many things that we could chat about...literally for hours. What really caught my interest was the story about the 'visitor' y'all had. I used to do similar things...get in the over half of God's Creation to 'visit' with people, scientists and some folks with special skills.

Remember...for someone to be able to do that (travel, etc.)...that takes a 'budget', schedules, etc. And in order for someone to do something like that (like I used to do right after 9/11 thru early -03)...someone who has a discretionary budget generally finances those kind of 'intel' projects. Does the term 'reconoiter' mean anything to you? (LOL)! Just be careful.. They probably don't consider you guys to be a threat, or they'd have already 'bored you to death with conversation' (ROTFFL!). A futher consideration is the 'spoon-feed-effect'. No need to extrapolate on that issue/prospect.

There is a lot more but this is as 'clean' as I am going to get... any more is on a need to know basis and you don't

The POINT is not chest thumping, but to illustrate that even when they are 'interested' it takes a lot more serious stuff than talking at ATS or documenting everything at a website before they spend the money on sticking a couple of vans in front of your house

Besides his van was yellow... not black

posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 05:27 PM
The chances of you being watched soley for the purpose that you engage in paranormal research is highly unlikely. However, it is very likely that you have been added to the "terrorist watch list" in the US. Especially if your performing ongoing research in economic securities and asking questions directly to the US government. Will they do anything about it? Probably not, but dont be surprised if your picked up by FBI if something happens to the Economic Securities system. I.E. system crash, security breach ect. ect.

posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 05:27 PM
reply to post by zorgon

Hello Zorgon, just wanted to let you know they are coming out with a brand new version of " The Day the Earth stood still" December 12, 2008.

Neo, aka keanu reeves will be klatuu.

[edit on 21-7-2008 by Peepers]

posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 05:29 PM
If I ever thought I was being watched, I would start watching them back, and following them, lol Two can play that game

posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 05:53 PM
Only over the Net

They obviously are watching ATS because thats the ENTRY links

(My website is Fight -tyranny)

[edit on 21-7-2008 by BlackMumba]

posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 05:58 PM
heres another suggestion buy a cctv camera and put it up somewhere where it is concealed facing the street. Have the camera hooked up to a dedicated vhs feed and keep a live recording. Itll be tough to keep up with it but worth it not only for evidence but you never know when a video tape like that may come in handy. See my post "Secret Agents HaHa" to get some tips on making thier life a living hell.

posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 06:11 PM
where would the "evil" goverment recruit such "evil" agents with no moral standards?
who is going to come in for the veteran "evil" goverment agents?
could it be just an ordinary ten year old kid who you saw shooting hoops the other day that is going to be lurking your house from your driveway in forty years time because you didn't keep your nose "where it does not belong"? _javascript:icon('
') scary thought
who are the parents of "the evil agents"? are they evil aswell?
are they EBE? _javascript:icon('
what is love?j avascript:icon('

posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 07:11 PM
I've always wondered, if I were to be the object of such surveillance, would I go up to the vehicle and rap on the window?
The answer is, yeah, Ive already done it several times.
It's always some idiot that thought my street was a good place to take a leak.
They have been encouraged otherwise.

posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 07:41 PM

Originally posted by Peepers
Hello Zorgon, just wanted to let you know they are coming out with a brand new version of " The Day the Earth stood still" December 12, 2008.

yeah thanks I noticed that when I posted the youtube link... It threw me for a loop for a minute till I looked at the date... Hope they don't modernize it to much sometimes the classics need to be left alone

Interesting they are pulling that up again now though Hmmmmmm

posted on Jul, 21 2008 @ 08:09 PM
And out they come to confuse and distract

everyone seeking the truth should take the time to learn the symbols and signs that identify the servants of the deceivers as almost all of them carry the mark of their masters. the marks that say "this is my mindless property"

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