posted on Jul, 20 2008 @ 03:41 PM
I've not seen either of the new Batman movies, and hadn't heard about the actor's death. I think I recognize the actor's name, and so think it's
a little shocking to hear that he is dead..
Just generally, without at all talking about the specific case here, I definitely think this topic is interesting, and that it's probably more
important than most people ever think about. When such a movie character is created, that could be a fairly complete world view that is expressed by
the character. Any expression or articulation of notions, affect humans. That's because humans are intellectual. If I could prove to you something,
that means you have to take whatever it was into account in your life. That sort of thing is of course a fairly central part of what ATS is about.
Some people consider that they have seen indications that certain things aren't as mass media, or such, say, and now these people can't just ignore
the indications they have seen.
It's similar to how a child would have difficulties if the teacher made a statement that the child could not refute, even if the child might feel
very "instinctively" that the teacher was saying something that was wrong. Maybe the teacher was indeed lying, but doing so in a way that was beyond
what the child could see through.
Manipulation has fairly much to do with this sort of thing, I believe. Some people could probably talk others into doing almost anything. It doesn't
even have to be an intellectual argument, just some kind of observation presented to the victim of the manipulation that made the victim act in a way
that the victim felt was necessary for complying with what "his brain" had observed. People are always affected like this.
An actor that might not have a sufficiently thought-through view of life, could necessarily find that he was unable to withstand an "articulation"
that was presented very clearly to him. The articulation being a fairly complete character that he had to "step into". If the "assertion" which
the character was, was very opposed to the actor, but the actor was unable to refute the character, unable to articulate why the character was not
right, then that could, I imagine, lead to suicide. I think suicide usually happens from some similar principle. Inability to refute something that is
just unacceptable to the person.
To me, this is totally central to philosophy and psychology. I don't know anything about either, but I think there is little if anything that's more
interesting (maybe I should learn something about them then, yeah.. :-)
I just happened to see this, and for some reason wanted to reply. Btw., the forum where you have posted this isn't for "far off" posts, but is
rather for discussing ATS' encyclopedia wiki. This is the tinWiki working forum.