September of '08 -- Just Listen. , page 3
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reply posted on 20-7-2008 @ 04:01 PM by jtma508
I think alot of the posters don't 'get' this concept. The OP is offering-up possible events that coincide with a change in the timewave. He happened to pick John Benet since it was such a huge cultural event. So sue him. It may also have been Iraq's refusal of UN inspections that turned the corner to the war that ultimately led us to the dark place we now find ourselves.

Fractals are everywhere in nature. Plants, animals, cosmology all have forms that follow fractals. Timewave measures 'something'. We know that to be true because it 'should' be random. It's not. What it measures is anyone's guess but that 'something' may very well be a proxy for historical events. That is, there may be some universal force that effects history and shows up in the timewave.

The
Global Consciousness Project at Princeton is another example of our measuring 'something' that seems to relate to events. Without question the GCP should be generating random numbers (by definition) but 'something' has an effect on it so it does not. And these changes in the outputs of the GCP seem to correlate with large-scale global events. How do you explain that? The statistics are solid. It ain't random.

So, give Timewave a break. We may not understand what underlies it but it measure something and it would appear that we are on the brink of major, major change into 'novelty'. In other words, our collective routine is about to significantly change.


reply posted on 20-7-2008 @ 04:05 PM by MystikMushroom
Originally posted by Mainer
From my own
guide to ATS Hoxing

Apocalyptic prediction transmitted by a second party (rarely first hand)

Sort of, something major, predicted by some software, transmitted to us by the OP, a second party.

Predictor is anonymous (for their own safety) but has a successful track record

Not quite, as a software program, it cannot be threatened, nor queried, so functionally the same.

OP is not going to say any more about it

May alter this to not say anything more, or gets hostile when questioned, either way it puts us around step three or four. Awaiting the new information.


What the...? Okay dude, first of run spell check and get "Hoaxing" right.

I haven't had TIME lol, no pun intended. to run more waves, research the dates that correspond with dips into novelty, and post them for your pleasure.

This is not "prophecy"--rather a theory about time that has "mathematical teeth" to it. Just as Terence would argue,


"The task of discerning sh*t from Shinola looms very large at the end of history."


To be a "Hoax" I would have to be intentionally deceiving people -- which I am not.



You have well thought out, intelligent, honest questions? Bring em' on!

You disagree, and put up your own counter argument that has logical validity -- bring it on!

I'll try and gather more information today as fast as I can to make the research a bit easier for the community. The responses thus far have already done a good job of providing the pertinent information -- thank you!

With a "theory" like this it's not like we'll have to wait years to see whats going to happen, and I can be legitimately made fun of. We only have a few mere months, and yes...I'll still be here to go, "wow I was totally wrong, I need to re-think my entire life".

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reply posted on 20-7-2008 @ 04:16 PM by metaldemon2000
Every 11 years major events happen. The Mayan calander also shows that something significant happens on an 11 year cycle.

1957 Largest baby boom year

1968 The impact of the Vietnam War, the Civil Rights Movement, the politics of the new left and the unrest on college campuses across the nation leads to a major eruption of events late in the decade. 1968 is a year of demonstrations and assassinations, marked by violent protests at Columbia University and the Chicago Democratic Convention and the untimely deaths of Martin Luther King Jr. and Senator Robert Kennedy. During this period, NYU is also experiencing some of its most volatile student activism stirred on by the Hatchett Affair and the Chi-Reston incident.


1979 Nov 4, The US Embassy was taken over by Iranian students and a hostage crisis began. 90 people, including 63 Americans, were taken hostage at the American embassy in Teheran, Iran, by militant student followers of Ayatollah Khomeini who demanded the return of Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi to Iran for trial. He was undergoing medical treatment in New York City. The students held 52 American hostages for 444 days, and were released on the day of the inauguration President Ronald Reagan, January 20, 1981. In 2005 David Harris authored “The Crisis: The President, the Prophet and the Shah – 1979 and the coming of Militant Islam.” In 2006 Mark Bowden authored “Guests of the Ayatollah: The First Battle in America’s War With Militant Islam.”


1990 - events leading up to desert storm began

2001 - 9/11

2012 - ?


reply posted on 20-7-2008 @ 04:25 PM by whiteraven
reply to post by realshanti


In no way am i dismissing Terence McKenna. I am greatly facinated.

I have been for years.

I have basic questions.

For example why...after Sonny did acid...again and again ...did he not come up with the mindset of those who came to feed him the acid?

I hope you know what I am talking about?

And then..does this mirror a reflection of the 1967 1968 meltdown?

So we have two different subcultures that intersected in the 64 65 era coming to peak in 67 68 and then down to 2012.

I am speaking of two great lines of thought...one entailed in one subculture and the other great line of thought in the other.

Here is a poem by Ginsberg on one of the events:

First Party At Ken Kesey's With Hell's Angels

Cool black night thru redwoods
cars parked outside in shade
behind the gate, stars dim above
the ravine, a fire burning by the side
porch and a few tired souls hunched over
in black leather jackets. In the huge
wooden house, a yellow chandelier
at 3 A.M. the blast of loudspeakers
hi-fi Rolling Stones Ray Charles Beatles
Jumping Joe Jackson and twenty youths
dancing to the vibration thru the floor,
a little weed in the bathroom, girls in scarlet
tights, one muscular smooth skinned man
sweating dancing for hours, beer cans
bent littering the yard, a hanged man
sculpture dangling from a high creek branch,
children sleeping softly in their bedroom bunks.
And 4 police cars parked outside the painted
gate, red lights revolving in the leaves
quote

I often wonder why so many took so many different roads.

Did everybody interpret things so different and personaly that it evolved to what we have now?


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reply posted on 20-7-2008 @ 04:40 PM by MystikMushroom
reply to post by LeeHawt



You are more than free to disagree, however, I ask that you take into consideration the math behind this graph. Just because you can't wrap your head around it, does not make it invalid.

It would appear to me, that you have not invested a small amount of time and/or effort in understanding the underpinnings of this theory.


reply posted on 20-7-2008 @ 04:47 PM by Liamoville
reply to post by MystikMushroom



How did i guess who were going to moan about me not denying ignorance. Everyone that disagrees with a theory is part of the NWO or allowing ignorance to prevail.

Call me out in October and i will laugh, if something big does happen i will happily admit i was wrong, but it won't. How BIG are we talking about this event having to be to be classed big enough to go on the graph? Serial killer? Airplane crash? Terrorist Bombing? Something bigger?
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