posted on Mar, 21 2010 @ 09:41 PM
First of all, the textual mess of the Greek hand copied manuscripts for TheApocalypse of Yohanon the Levite (‘Book of Revelation’) makes reading
/ translation into modern Prose (including its symbolic numbering systems) difficult at best & the oldest Greek MSS of “Revelation’ don’t match
each other letter for letter –what we have is a horribly mangled hotchpotch of really bad non matching Greek texts full of Grammatical HOWLERS,
childish spelling, often impossible syntax & meaningless sentence constructions.
SO -- BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT BEING DOGMATIC WITH A TEXT YOU CANNOT RECONSTRUCT, LET ALONE READ IN THE MESSY GREEK TEXTS SUCH AS WE HAVE THEM
The ‘original language’ of the book could hardly be GREEK anyway- but a mixture of late Hebrew & Aramaic Midrashic Dirge Poetry (alla the Scroll
of Lamentations of Jeremiah & parts of Daniel) with some rare OT Targum quotes for Midrashic Expansion (his quotes from Daniel use the rare Greek OT
LXX of Theodotion, for whatever reason).
Almost every separate Oracle of 12 lines in the Book of Revelation is OUT OF ORDER in the GREEK MSS –and are filled with 60+ ‘MARIGNALIA’ (later
scribal insertions, or faked additions in PROSE worked originally into the margins & later copied into the text itself when re-copied -- notice how
these INTERRUPT the poetical metre of the under-text—despite the warnings at the end of the book which forbids copyist scribes from doing just this.
In the quote below I have used CAPITALS to show you the marginalia inserts some of which ALTER the meaning of the originalPoems.
Just so you know: Rev 9:16 is ALSO a big MESS as it stands in the text: it does NOT grammatically / logically follow what immediately precedes it
(i.e. Rev 9:14-15) but INTRODUCES a whole NEW section.
See the Reconstruction from the Greek back into the 12 lineAramaic stanzas: QUOTE
9:13 And I looked, and behold I saw the 6th Malak (‘Messenger’) approach:
Holding a Ram’s Horn in his Right hand,
And lo, the Malak began to blow upon it.
And turning, I immediately heard a Voice [of Thunder]
And behold, the sound was coming from the Altar
Even out of one of its 4 Golden Horns !
[*in the margin: ‘THAT IS, THE ALTAR OF GOLD STANDING BEFORE THE FACE(S) OF EL’]
And lo, the Voice thundered [a string of] Commands to the 6th Angel
[*in the margin: ‘THAT IS, TO THE ONE HOLDING THE TRUMPET]
Go to, & unbind each of the 4 Malakim
Even they who have been kept bound within the Great River Euphrates !
And I looked, and behold, I saw: The 4 Malakim !
And lo, they were being unbound [from the River]
So that once loosed, they can genocide 1/3 of all mankind.
[*in the margin: ‘THESE ARE THE SAME WHO HAD BEEN WAITING FOR AN HOUR & A DAY & A MONTH & A YEAR’]
After these things, I looked, & behold, I saw: A Great Cavalry !
And lo, the numbers of the Horsemen was Myriads upon Myriads
But I had actually heard some very large obscure number
And in my Vision , I looked [closely] at the Horses [themselves]
And also upon all those who were mounted on each of them,
And behold: they were wearing breastplates of fire, jacinth & brimstone !
And I looked, & behold, I saw the Horses Heads !
And lo, they were as the heads of Lions;
And out of their mouths issued Fire, Smoke & Brimstone !
And lo, The Killing-Power was placed in their Mouths & Tails
And behold: their Tails were like unto Serpents tails,
and their Heads [like scorpions?] that could wound the sons of men.
[in the margin: ‘IT WAS BY THESE 3 THAT 1/3 OF MAN WAS KILLED THAT IS BY FIRE SMOKE & BRIMSSTONE ISSUING FROM THEIR MOUTHS & AS FOR THE REST OF
MANKIND WHO DID NOT DIE IN THESE PLAGUES THEY DID NOT REPENT OF THE EVIL WROUGHT BY THEIR HANDS, FOR THEY WORHIPPED DAEMONS & GOLDEN IDOLS & GODS OF
SILVER, STONE, WOOD, GOLD & BRASS WHICH ARE DEAF & BLIND & CANNOT WALK NOR DID THESE REPENT OF THEIR KILLING & WITCHCRAFT & ORGIES & RAPINE’]
The context is the Blowing of the 6th Ram’s Horn & ‘the loosing’ of the 4 Malakim (‘messengers’, ‘angels’ ) bound in the river
Euphrates, who were sent out to genocide 1/3 of the world, according to a ‘Divine Timetable’ which Apocalytpically-minded ‘Roman-Occupied’
1st Century Jews wrote about (e.g. the Dead Sea Scroll Covenanters at Seccacah/Qumran (‘Spiritually called Damsaq’) where the War of the Sons of
Light is fought according to a strict ‘angelic’ Calendar.
The Greek NUMERICAL adjectives used in Rev 9: 16 are NOT LITERAL but meant to be taken as ‘round numbers’ esp as Poetry =meaning ‘a VERY
large group something’:
"DISMURIADES-MURIADON’ (Dis=’Twice’ x Myriads-Myriad) = A single MURIAD in Greek =10,000 (taken literally)
So… TWO Myriads = 20,000, i.e. the TOTAL number of the Mounted Roman Cavalry Horsemen (‘Equites Romani’) which existed during the outbreak of
the 1st Failed Jewish War against Rome inAD 66-72 i.e counting all mounted contingents and auxiliaries of ALL the Roman 49 Legions combined: hence a
possible reference to NERO's times.
Rev 9:16 (wherever you want to stick this Oracle in the text) doubles that number of horsemen yet again – basically like saying AS MANY AS TWO-ROMAN
ARMIES was done purely for POETIC EFFECT would equal(literally) 40,000 - a number you cannot take literally, but we are here dealing with ORACULAR
POETRY not literal images.
Literal numbers that some read into Rev. 9:16 (‘200 million’ or some fanciful number) were not practical in ancient counting systems – people
then used common images people could picture easily - cf Gen 32:12 – Jacob’s descendants =’as the number of grains of sand on the seashore’
or ‘as the number of stars in heaven’ = a big number, but not literally to be counted 1 grain at at a time.
Reducing this poetic expression to literal arithmetic misses the meaning = (i.e. ‘nearly infinite’)
Modern ‘Christians’ have a habit of making their own sense of the text & take 9:16 as part of 16:12 (when the Euphrates ‘dries up’ following
the pouring of the [6th]Vial, followed by another MARGINALIUM [ ‘NOW THIS WAS DONE TO MAKE WAY FOR THE KINGS OF THE EAST’]
There is NO indication that these 2 widely-separated verses Rev 9:15, 9:16 &16:12 are related – despite the efforts of Hal Lindsey (to mean e.g.
China’s 200 million man Army as some modern day Eastern Invader !
[edit on 21-3-2010 by Sigismundus]