New Hampshire will accept free oil from Chavez after all

I find it strange that America is so dependent on oil for heating. Here in New Zealand running a central heating system via a Pellet Boiler (Wood Pellets) cost an average family about 450 to 500 NZD (About a tonne of pellets bagged 20 kg). About 5mths of the year for winter.

Time to break the addiction to Oil guys and gals....

Good for N.H.!

Maybe this will open the eyes of our government officials, and may, I dare say, embarrass them into fixing the changes they made in government regulations that have brought these hard times onto Americans.

Maybe seeing Americans taking handouts from Chavez will open their eyes to how badly they have run this country economically into the ground!

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Yeah the truth hurts doesn't it.

American dependence on oil is a remarkably short sighted methodology that is quickly becoming obvious in its error. I have thought that for years we were spending far too little on research for alternatives.

I remember seeing years ago that a scientist in the US perfected turning sewage and other liquid waste into fuel using his underwater arc technology but still today we dump sewage instead of turning it into clean burning fuel. I think that it is only the greed of the few that has outweighed the needs of the many for too long that has perpetuated this situation.

This might seem socialistic to some but I think that it is really just free market economics being suppressed by big oil subsidies for too long that has caused this situation. It is corporatism not socialism that is the problem.

Now we are socializing the debt of the big banks and lending institutions and that is not seen as a socialist thing to do. Why not socialize the profit of these institutions if they are going to socialize their debt.It makes not one bit of sense. This is just corporatism.

Socialist like Chavez are made to look like the enemy but in reality they are about sharing in large natural revenue resources that should be distributed to the native people and not in this case to just the rich Spanish conquistador descendants that have controlled these resources up until recent years.

I also think that Peru should hold Spain accountable for the rape and plunder of the gold resources of their nation but what do I know.

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Actually, I beg to differ with you. As I have stated in other threads, It is obvious that both sides of the aisle have an agenda, but do not be mistaken and think that this has not been a well funded research initiative.(renewable resources) The fact remains, that we use so many different types of energy in this country,(meaning there is no "one"fix) and we have already done so much to "clean" up what we already use.(fossil fuels)

These wildfires in California have released the same amount of Carbon emissions as 18 MILLION cars will this year. We SHOULD switch to alternative measures.

But using the average Americans pain to further your own social and political agenda is shameful. And I don't want to hear that one side is only doing what the other did as well.

It's wrong either way.

It is about the fact that we have more reserves than all the middle east combined, and yet we have to take handouts because libs won't let us drill.

Got an argument for that? Read these threads, and then BRING IT ON!!!!

Democrats throw common man under the bus. (AGAIN!!)
Why are the Democrats destroying our economy? SERIOUSLY!!

-Jason



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This thread is such a great example of ATS. What's the motive behind the free oil? Read what people are saying on here...it's pretty clear. We have an upcoming election with a candidate is very...friendly...towards the idea of socialism. Chavez would do backflips if the US became a socialist state. So he's basically buying votes for the cause of socialism. It's a rampant disease in the world that is one the verge of consuming the US as well, and he's just helping to feed it a bit with a resource that he's about drowning in. Politics as usual, indeed. I just hope that maybe this will be a big enough of a red flag to make more people sit up and pay attention. When foreign leaders start bribing the public in an election year, we should all be VERY concerned.

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The question here is: how to solve the internal oil problem, without external help.

Wiseman 22-07-08

Just like communism did ? I dont see why people are so against there resources being owned by THEM .

Socialism is EXACTLY what we need . Abolish these huge frigging thief's and give it all back to the people . That is such a horrible idea . NOT.

You guys got caught up in the "Clinton is a socialist" scare . Cause she wanted to make health care accessible to under privileged people .

In the time it took you to make that post 30,000 children starved to death .

It's clear that Chavez has an agenda.

It's already working. Simply talking about the oil is generating sympathy for him on these boards. He is a renowned supporter of terrorism and he is BFF with Ahmadinejad.

I feel damned sorry for folks in the NE and other areas that depend on heating oil to keep their families warm. The fact that their homes are heated that way is not their fault, it's just how they were built.

It is ironic, though, that the land of 'Don't Tread on Me' is the first to fall prey to his scam. I say get it while you can, but never forget NOTHING IS FREE!