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Originally posted by magicmushroom
CON, tut tut, getting all emotional detracts from logical thought. And just to correct you, your not building Iraq up your Goverment is raping and pillaging the country of its natural resources, I think the American term is carpet bagging is it not.
And again the truth hurts does it not, if you dont care about anyone or your country thats fine thats your choice as an individual but that said it does not detract from the truth or reality. I dont know how many times I have heard from the big brave Americans of what they can and cannot do but history proves me right and you wrong I'm affraid.
But please dont worry, all will become much clearer very soon. Perhaps you may wish to look at the bigger picture rather than how you see yourself and situation. Fortunately the World does not consist of individuals but a collective whole.
Originally posted by Liamoville
*Sigh* This is just going to turn into another Country v Country thread.
This whole "Everyone attack America" stuff is rubbish just like "America should attack Russia and China" either one of those scenarios will never happen or at least not for a long long time, because theres too much at stake for the entire world. As soon as America attacks Russia or China either with nukes or troops, Russia or China launch nukes back and vice versa and we'd probably see a ridiculous amount of technology being used we never knew existed and i knows its a cliche but, the World would never be the same again.
Originally posted by re22666
Originally posted by Conspiriology
Guy shut the hell up, now you're just talking plane ignorant and no one is going to own us. The ONLY wars we haven't won are those we didn't win the way WE think winning them is defined.
I don't think any other American would either listening to you.
- Con
i dont even care what the previous post said. i am eager to hear all about under which standard we won viet nam.
besides to say america never lost a war is just the stupidest thing i ever heard. which country lost the civil war?
Originally posted by re22666
i think that is a big part of the problem. the world is subsisting on this mutually assured destruction model of getting along. imagine if instead we all shared what we had to offer and kept our religion, sex life, personal style of health care, out of it all.
Originally posted by Conspiriology
Depends on how you look at the statistics smart guy. We controlled the air and lost 57,000 Americans over 15 years.
You know how many they lost?
The civil war?
I can say who won that war and I'd be right again.
- Con
Originally posted by magicmushroom
Con, last reply for tonight, I do hope you are right, for the sake of all Americans, you are correct more and more people are becoming aware of the current situation and I sincerely hope that change for the betterment of all will come about before its too late.
Originally posted by TwiTcHomatic
Originally posted by Conspiriology
Depends on how you look at the statistics smart guy. We controlled the air and lost 57,000 Americans over 15 years.
You know how many they lost?
The civil war?
I can say who won that war and I'd be right again.
- Con
You are definitely not a Vietnam veteran just from your response to that question. Regardless of the statistics and body count.. we left that beautiful countryside with our tails between our legs.
Oh and owning the air did nothing for us in the long run. Its hard to kill an enemy from the air when he is 15-20 feet under the ground in the hillsides. We did not have bunker busters back then.
I have seen hills completely bombarded.. yet the tunnels underneath were completely intact. Please don't speak of a conflict when all you have to fall on is "statistics". Too many friends are still there to be unintelligently used to make a point.
Originally posted by Twilly
I don't get you people...
D. Yes the US has its problems.... But come on guys, Wise up. What other country has people risking their lives to break in to it? Most are trying to break out...
Whilst jack booted America stomps its way over the World pludering raping and pillaging as it goes along what will become of its millions strong Muslim population.
Originally posted by Conspiriology
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In fact I am a viet nam vet and no we didn't leave there with our tails between our legs. Maybe YOU did but that's you.
- Con
[edit on 19-7-2008 by Conspiriology]
Originally posted by magicmushroom
Thank you for all the replies thus far, obviously such a topic is bound to stir emotions and patriotic pride. But patriotism and pride do not pay the bills if only such pride and patriotism could be used for the greater good and in preventing war and want we would all be living much better lives.
If we dont kill the parasites that feed off us eventually they will kill us all its as simple as that.
As its now 01.43 hours I will have to say good night.
Originally posted by TwiTcHomatic
Originally posted by Conspiriology
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In fact I am a viet nam vet and no we didn't leave there with our tails between our legs. Maybe YOU did but that's you.
- Con
[edit on 19-7-2008 by Conspiriology]
So our forces leaving Saigon from the rooftops on helo's wasn't leaving with our tails between our legs?
"America lost the war in Vietnam because our troops were trapped in a distant country we did not understand supporting a government that lacked sufficient legitimacy with its people," Kennedy said in a statement. Boy how that statement echoes the present times.
If you were there.. you would not have made that asinine statement.
[edit on 19-7-2008 by TwiTcHomatic]