Originally posted by magicmushroom
FIAT, I stated that I named this thread as I did to draw attention to the problem of whats really going on. And I agree with you overall its not the
people but I have said this before in that the people fall into 3 groups. There are those who are aware of whats going on, there are those who do not
and there are those who agree with and support the actions of their Goverment whom ever that may be.
Now the problem is that the people who are aware feel that they do not have the support or leadership they need to bring about change.
The people who are unaware need waking from their mind controlled slumber which again can be quite difficult but we must try.
The third group are those I call the brain dead pariots where the mind control trick has been a complete success and no amount of arguing or
pursuading is going to change their minds. They are so entrenched in their beliefs that they can see nothing else. This group are the ones that do the
dirty work for said Goverment., any goverment or leader.
I know the majority of Americans are not a bunch of war mongering baby eating mad men but the problem is that for the American people as a whole that
is the way they are being perceived abroad rightly or wrongly. And again any action taken to stop the madmen in charge will inevitably mean that the
American people will suffer for the actions of these people and their supporters.
But when faced with this problem what does one do, again if we were discussing Germany in the early 30's what would we say or do, if we new that war
was coming would we or could we possibly stop it. I dont know, as you said before I dont blame the people entirely, we are all bombarded with lies,
deceit and deception every day of our lives to the point that people do not know what is right or wrong what is reality or make believe.
All I believe is that if we do not break this chain we will be in another world war of a magnitude that defies description and to borrow an American
phrase we will all be bombed back to the stone age but you can bet your life the perps behind all this will be nice and safe, secure with all their
ill gotten gain's but we will just be one of billions of corpses. But maybe that is their grand plan. What is written on that stone in the US, a
world with a population of how many half a billion, so whats in store for the rest of us.
The PNAC is nothing to me, and I do not understand why people make such a big deal about it. We have always had a PNAC type of plan and
globalization is a fact of life for everyone and you should not be so against American interests if America is to stay strong it is going to have to
do it by being a strong and present force EVERYWHERE.
Bin laden was not hiding in Afghanistan. Gee that is funny, even the Taliban admitted he was there.
I think if we should just go kill the Rothschild’s and all the power families you are talking about if they are the ones controlling our country.
Oh and by the way MM, I am NOT happy with our Government, not in the least and a coming election I am voting for McCain.
I cannot stand Obama because he is a damn communist and I do not like McCain but I like him better than I cannot stand the rookie Obama because he is
a damn communist. Every Idea I hear Obama talk about, I have seen our country try before, they did not work then, and they will not this time either.
Young people think it is a NEW idea because they have not seen it before but I have.
I think our country is in a quandary as if I have never seen it before and for the first time in my life; I am scared for her future. I see too many
children on Ritalin because it is so much easier than regular parenting.
I see our Public Schools have turned into a state religion of Atheism and I do not think that is any better than a theocracy in fact it is worse if
you consider they think they have such a problem with Christians.
Wait until they get a load of how hard it will be with an influx of Muslims coming here. You see I KNOW what they want to do, and I have seen it
happen to places where they will never be the same again. France, Belgium, Spain just to name a few. They cannot do a damn thing over there without
the Muslims making a big stink about it and when you do not comply,, look what happened in Spain.
We have a worldview and they have a Worldview but the one they have is a worldview,
There are Places around the world with great wealth because of their oil want power too. They want to have Nukes and we cannot allow that. No one
can allow anyone willing to die for the sake of killing infidels to have nukes.
You can argue why shouldn’t they have them when we do, my Answer would be because the more places that have it the more likely it is going to be
used somewhere. Those that have it now can be trusted with it so far we have all been lucky that way. However, Islamists are not like you and I.
Most believe it is al about Oil and yeah it is but what people fail to realize is just how tenable our dependence on Oil is. We are there for a
reason and some of us get it some of us do not. Others still think the world would all be one big happy place if the US did not mess with others
Those are the ones, you might call "without a passport" because they do not know what is going on out side there backyard. I have been to Africa,
Egypt even Yugoslavia MM I have been around the planet twice in fact. I think Bush is an idiot and I do not believe he is a Christian. I think he
fakes it. I know what he calls them behind there backs too.
Doesn't matter, I think the mistakes he made will turn out too be providential and for the greater good but I also believe the United States will
suffer a great deal, NOT so much for what Bush has done, but for the kind of aimless sexually depraved drug addicted Godless society that we have
become. Where evil cannot even be called evil because to do so is bigotry. You do not think I have written some nasty posts about this Country
and the direction it has taken. Every Applause I ever had was for writing posts about my feelings, thoughts etc, on the Government.
The only issue I have had with you is that you embellish silly crap and the PNAC is silly crap. The NAU will happen but not like, you think because
Americans Canadians and Mexicans do not want it. We are NOT Europe and if you have lived long enough you will remember the "metric" system.
Americans never went for that either even while Europe was claiming we would have to. You call me an old fool, and maybe I am Old fashioned and
still like to believe in those ideals but I pedal a Bike 15 miles a day three days a week and can still bench 270 on a good day. I read everything I
get my hands on and still love my country but am disappointed in many things we are doing and I blame most of it on a public who is screams about a
Fascist state yet cannot see that everything they want is everything a fascist state is.
Materialism, humanism, secularism, gay marriage, and all the while we work further and further into making parents irrelevant until soon they will be
raised and indoctrinated by our now totally Humanist Public school system churning out kids that do NOT honor their mother and father. They only care
about not having their bisexual freedoms infringed by the evil Christian Radical right. Meanwhile Christians are all little wimps who do not have the
guts to call sin a sin anymore for fear of offending someone.
I LIKED the old Atheists that gave Christians a Conflicting position so that the religious right did not go nuts turning us into a theocracy. I also
understand that Christianity provides a conflicting role in society so that secular humanists do not go nuts having their every indulgence legalized
and approved of until we start looking like Amsterdam. (No offense to the Dutch but Americans lack discipline) I liked a people who believed in a
Higher Power so that higher power that gave us unalienable rights which means, NO MAN could take them away from us. The moment we take God out of the
equation, we make Government the one that lords over us and our rights become "privileges" and can be taken from us.
I liked having a two party system that no matter who was in Office we had checks and balances or two conflicting positions again that are necessary
whether you agreed with them or not, ONE side cannot exist without the other. What we have today are Gay Republicans living double lives as married
Politicians with a totally left voting record and Democrats who are living double lives as liberals but have been espousing Communism forms of
Government for years all the while they were in College. Instead of asking what Religion a politician is, we ask them if they believe in evolution.
Another words, a slick way of asking are they deist or atheists. No, they do not ask them the real questions. The kind that really get a good grasp
of who the son of a bitch running for office is about, what makes him tick. This is a republic! That means they only want to know where they stand on
issues having to do with your lover or if they are going green. ASK THEM HOW THEY VOTED!
Get their voting record and a list of their major contributors and you will see who is corrupt and who is not in a matter of minutes.
I wrote a post about Senator Ted Stevens wanting to sell out to the telecoms when they were trying to get control of the internet. I Listened to
Ted's speech and he sold us out to the telecoms just as I predicted in the post. How did I know?
Verizon, ATT, US Telecom and just about every single Telecom there was had given him so much money that this can be seen as nothing less than a bribe.
Bribery is illegal you say? Not if you call it LOBBY, it isn’t.
When the republicans wanted to lift federal regulation off the Banks and finance, we did that and what happened? They had no conflicting Position to
get in there way and they went nuts. The usury laws were all scuttled and one of the tenets of our constitution was the laws taken from the Bible
where even in Finance we had always held a firm belief that the rich should NOT take advantage of the poor and that is just what been going on here
for since the republicans did that. Democrats are no angels either. When Pelosi was talking tough and committed to getting that place in order if we
swept them into power. I went for it and voted them in as they asked. They have been sitting on there do nothing asses ever since and I am voting
every single incumbent OUT just because they reneged on what they said they would do.
Watch the Republicans fighting for our energy needs and the Democrats not even trying to come to a common ground. They refuse to vote on it!
Many, if not most people blame speculators for high prices. Bush announced an end to the Presidential Executive Order against drilling in the gulf.
The next day, gas prices plummeted more than when Saudi Arabia said they would substantially increase production! The speculators got the message that
is why. Even if it takes as long to get the oil, as it obviously will to re-industrialize our society to run on alternative energy sources, the impact
of the decision will be immediate on gas prices, because oil futures will be increased dramatically. It isn't rocket science to see that.
Call Nancy (Mussolini) Pelosi. Let her know she works for us!
Go here to see shocking protest video from House floor:
They like to say, "tax cuts only help the rich." Well, seems a Democratic controlled congress has a much more clever way to help the rich. They will
be taxing us to pay off their losses so they stay rich!
Click on the links:
Hundreds of Banks Will Fail
and the source article
"...the government is overregulating, bailing out troubled
participants and intervening in every market.
"The regulators should investigate themselves for bailing out Fannie
Mae (FNM.N: Quote
Buzz ) and Freddie Mac
(FRE.N: Quote ,
Buzz ), the creditors of
Bear Stearns and the financial system with new lending facilities.
They have swapped U.S. Treasury bonds for toxic securities," he told
Barron's. "It is privatizing the gains and profits, and socializing
the losses as usual. This is socialism for Wall Street and the rich."
He said that sometimes it is necessary to use public money to rescue
institutions, but in a way that does not bail out the people who
made the mistakes. "In each one of these episodes, the government
bailed out the shareholders, the bondholders, and to some degree,
management," Roubini told Barron's."
Some very true points, especially "privatizing the wealth and socializing the losses..."
So whether I am someone you'll agree with or not is not the point MM, The point is I am involved and i stay involved and I have every confidence
Americas best days are still ahead but we are in for a storm. I have lived through times like this before and seen people like you saying the sky is
falling and America is a goner.
5-6 years later Americans found a way. I have no idea how they keep doing that but I always believed blessed is the Nation whose God is the lord and
as for me and my house,,,
I too will serve the Lord.
[edit on 6-8-2008 by Conspiriology]