XID, some truths for you,
If they are anything like the so called truth's you have given through this entire thread than why would anyone care? You have been nothing less than
dishonest mushroom and that HAS been proven, first by Cons who had exploited your continual slanderous tactic of misrepresentation than poet, Mr.
Marshall and myself.
I see nothing has changed and in this thread you continue to do it again. You say the general public will read this thread and agree with you but I
will say that the general public will side with what the evidence shows and what the evidence clearly establishes is that you are a liar and by the
way I STILL haven't seen that quote by Cons I have asked for and I am forced to conclude that the absolutely outrageous statements made here
regarding Con and poets Character and integrity were maliciously assaulted by your vicious lies and false quotes.
You are aware that the owners of ATS were within smelling distance of the ink on the paper of a law suit against people just like you. Another words
to suggest that someone is an advocate of killing innocent children is one thing (hearsay) but to say the person you attaché such an evil and ugly
personality to, ACTUALLY SAID IT HIMSELF and quote them as if that proves it?
Then even AFTER you get busted for it, you don't even show the common decency to make apologies much less admit you lied and that too has been proven
and is undeniable as I have given you more than enough opportunity to present your evidence and you have failed to do that without an iota of remorse.
It doesn't even OCCUR to you, does it? It doesn't even OCCUR to you that the general public knows what manufacturing evidence is when you make up
lies using them as quotes, QUOTES! NOT words to the effect or what YOU THINK it really means and then re-worded to that effect, but quotes! That means
verbatim but when we see what was REALLY said, we find you have not an honest bone in your body mushroom and if you want to continue complaining to
the mods about people calling you names? I think Cons would trade his feelings for yours any day.
After what you have said about him and poet, if people were to believe you and you for some reason think they will, YOU better hope they don't
because if they do they will believe Cons has the mind of a baby killer and might even have people here treat him according to the false reputation
you have so slanderously created just because you can't win a debate with him or anyone else here.
It isn't a matter of intelligence mushroom, it is a matter of evidence and YOU have shown neither one, NONE. If that were ME you said all that baby
killer baloney about, I guarantee you, ATS would be getting a deuces tecum and subpoena for your information and you and I would be seeing each other
in court. Luckily my life and my income doesn't revolve around my internet persona. Even if that were to happen, I can see you telling a Judge you
are still NOT WRONG.
He won't care, he will only see a comment like that as contemptuous and most likely grant an aggravation hearing if one were requested to get the
maximum compensatory damages out of your wallet .
So unless you are going to either present the exact quote from people, I no longer have a REASON to believe a single word you have to say mushroom for
I have proven you an intentional liar convicted you and you are without remorse
Your testimony and your credibility have been IMPEACHED. Can you not understand that?
Do you not get it yet? Must I explain to you what I have done to destroy your thread and its author by having to get that academic with why that one
lie represents the cornerstone of your thread and why you aren't just mistaken but you are malicious.
You are an agent provocateur who will not admit the truth, doesn't know the difference between fact and fiction and when he is shown that difference
, willfully chooses fiction regardless.
It isn't so much that you have lied, but you have lied a LOT and you keep making the same mistakes even after everyone is on to you.
That suggests the kind of narcissistic arrogance that one typically experiences when dealing with a pathological liar. That isn't calling you names
mush, it is calling it like it is. If you don't think I would rather be saying some positive affirmations about you, then you are wrong.
I think it is disappointing and terribly unfortunate that the best thing I can say of someone named magic mushroom at ATS is all the bad things I can
prove you are and have been to those you have besmirched with your deceitful manipulative ploys, lies discontextualized quote mining and
misrepresentation and by your own words and deeds.
Where what you have said about many here, has about as much credibility and evidence as that quote of cons you never produced. You are all talk and
the talk is all lies. You don't impress anyone here mushroom and if you think you do you are delusional.
People who make as wild an accusation as you have that manufacture their own evidence in the form of quotes people never actually said, disgusts me
and then you wonder why they call you names?
I have said it before, that kind of thing infuriates people on boards like this. In fact in places where they take debate more serious such as a
courtroom, it is a jailable offense. It only takes ONE lie to have an entire days testimony get completely thrown out.
What you are doing would get you numerous counts for perjury, fraud, intent to commit a fraud, AND aggravation where punitive damages are added to
restitution in some cases. Someone like Skeptic overlord and the owners of ATS who rely on their internets good name, would understand exactly what I
am talking about.
Yeah mushroom, I guess you could say you make me sick but I think I know why you do it and if you have read anything seriously given as being in your
best interest then you should listen to me this time.
I know I can say with 99.999999x^10 that I know more about this than you do. Not about the NAU or whether America should be attacked but about how to
paint a liar in a corner using evidence while discrediting my opponents and in this case you haven't even bothered to reference quotes or links to
other resources that could otherwise corroborate your allegations and / or substantiate your assertions.
Their comes a time when you should LISTEN and not assume you know more and this would be that time for you to listen because what I am going to tell
you has value enough people have paid lots of money for what I am going to teach you free so I hope you take heed and appreciate what I am going to
show you. It will help you in any future debates if you ever want to avoid looking as pathetic as you have in this one.
I think I have got you so figured out that you are already hitting the alert button thinking I just called you names. The word "pathetic" in this
use is related to empathy (capability of feeling), and is not pejorative.
Yes you're so sensitive to attacks that you have attached toxic shame to any words or phrase that imply you are wrong and is why you can't admit
when you are.
So obvious is this and so unaware are you of it, that Ill bet just saying you are wrong is like calling you some vulgar expletive, it is that
offensive to you.
This is how you process information and it is also how you see the world through your own dysfunctional observation facility. You are NOT interpreting
quotes correctly, it is sort of like cognitive dyslexia and you have displayed every sign of it. When you read post by Con or many others here, you
quote it the same way YOU think they "really meant it" rather than what it really means.
You think I am kidding?
It isn't a coincidence you couldn't show us that quote you could have swore Con made, this was why I asked you to use the quote button in the edit
controls display. You ever think about why you didn't? Because you are too busy re-typing what YOU think they really meant BUT not what they said.
"CON said that America is feared and respected by countries of the World, he said that so his position is a belligerent one
meaning he supports the current US Foreign Policy and so do those who think like him.
Now, he said that so his position is a belligerent one?
You say this means he supports the current US Foreign Policy and so do those who think like him?
Well that includes you too then and Ill prove it.
I will show you are not seeing what things really mean until you see them applied to you. All I have to do is frame your opinion concluding what you
think cons statement really means, in the form of a couple questions Ill ask you.
1) do you not think America is feared in some places of the world? Ill assume you would concur and Ill also say Of course it is.
2) Do you think their is no place in the entire world that respects America? Of course you don't and even if their were only ONE place in the world
that respected America, the fact is, such places DO exist. do you not agree?
Of course you do and by doing so using your own twisted logic, you have just painted yourself in a corner that anyone that thinks like that is
belligerent, someone who supports the current US foreign policy.
So if those beliefs con has can be posed to you as a question, then you are just like he is according to your logic.
Oh yeah,, gotcha.
All I am doing is applying your own tactic of doing that to someone named Mushroom so hopefully he will see that he may have a serious disorder that
can be treated, it is called "Presumptuous knowitallism"
You must know that the way you see the world, is not close to being accurate if you ever want to get yourself back to seeing the world objectively and
honestly, especially on emotionally charged issues.
When you tried to be clever with me talking about the NAU, Logic is important isn't it? You DO like to be logical do you not? I am going to assume
the affirmative and show you why your logic is flawed so much that it is beyond your own reasonable cognitive ability to recognize that you even have
a problem with this. So just indulge me here if you will and Ill sort this out for you.
And in regard to your comments about the NAU, just because you say it wont happen does not mean squat and as such you opinion is
worth no more or less than mine or anyone else's.
You are correct my opinion doesn't mean more than anyone else's but my assertion wasn't predicated on my opinion, it was based solely on the
tangible, physical evidence Con appropriately furnished to substantiate what the NAU is NOT and what is NOT going to happen. You see?
All you have to show it IS going to happen is YOUR OPINION. Unless you can produce evidence, the fact is, YOU are the one left with Squat. Now what is
more logical? Going with the evidence or Magic Mushroom the fortune teller? Do you know what the burden of proof is? You are the one making the claim
about some so called militarized north American union that is coming to our town and going to take our guns and put many of us in concentration camps
or gulags, internment camps whatever and I think you really DO believe that too.
So I understand your passion for alarmist behavior but the facts are the facts and nothing could be further from the truth. As far as what you can
prove factually, there IS no treaty period and no one is going to make one like that. Their is no plans to consolidate our country with Canada and
Mexico NONE PERIOD.
Frankly, the whole idea is absurd and it is absurd NOT because it is impossible such a thing could happen, but for me to believe it when their is no
evidence to show, I may as well be running around like chicken little saying the sky is falling. Your posts read like the National Enquirer when you
say things like that. Its as if you were saying the sun won't come up tomorrow but the evidence using past history suggests it will.
That doesn't mean it will 100% fact but the odds are I would be right to say it will and you would wrong to say it won't. If you were to tell me
"just because I believe it will come up tomorrow doesn't mean it will" is true but Their are something's we can not observe until they actually
happen but we know they are going to happen with enough confidence we can have faith in it taking the risk without knowing it 100%.
It is just as illogical as your claim about my saying the NAU won't happen the way you believe. Technically we are both right but the odds my version
of the NAU's actual agenda being the one that will come to fruition, is overwhelmingly in my favor as sure as the sun is coming up tomorrow.
You were shown the actual Government report on the NAU not JUST "some" report but the one by the horses mouth in Washington and you have failed to
I don't see how you can without an actual treaty taking place. That is the cornerstone of the entire weight of your argument and Mush, their is no
treaty so, you are the one with squat. Ill take the evidence over your crystal ball any day.
If you can be bothered read your own PNAC document it clearly sets out America's Imperial ambitions.
Oh I have read it many times and have seen it in all its many re-vised versions. I have a very close friend and colleague that is part of the think
tank that originally co-authored it. Just what paragraph in that document does it say anything about Americas expansionist agenda for a fascist State.
I don't know why I am even asking, I already know the document does not say anything like that unless you apply meanings to things that aren't
really there like you tend to do. Such a document would have to be written by someone with a minimum knowledge of contract law and every word is
chosen carefully so that people like you can get trumped arguing it means something more or something it doesn't
Either prove it or keep spinning yarns.
"So you just head off and stick you head in that bubble you all say you live in, but bubbles have a habit of bursting don't they"
Please show proof of me saying I live in a bubble?
No,, never mind, I think everyone would agree, I win that one just by considering the source.
You're welcome Mushroom.
Listen, learn and pick your battles carefully choosing only those you think you can win. If you do that, you will understand why the title of this
thread told me who ever created it, has no Idea who Americans are or what America is truly about.
I don't say that to jump on the bandwagon of your American detractors, but lets face it, America IS The Band Wagon. So, Either get on it, stop it, or
get the hell out of the way and stop making a fool of yourself.
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