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posted on Jul, 24 2008 @ 10:48 PM
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Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by Ownification
 



Look at South America now, most of them hate the US and don't want any type of influence comming from that corner.


Um, yeah, South America's economy is doing so well. You greatly over estimate U.S. influence. Look at what Muslims are doing in Africa, now that is how Muslims act when they get power.

Yep South America's economy is doing well and they are feeding their people to the fullest and they are helping each other to stop the conflicts in the region. Remember the coup in Vinsuala?? against Chaves which was backed by the US?? That's the kind of conflict I'm talking about. America don't want Democracy America wants control but now that the Latinos have joined together, America


umm what about Africa?? Do you even know the history of Africa?? I'm pretty sure you don't and just like the previouse thread we had a discussion in, I have to spend 4 or 5 paragraph to educate you



Originally posted by poet1b
By the way, I have been to Sur America mucho los tiempo, and you don't know what you are talking about. The people of the U.S. are very much welcomed in South America. Look at how well Costa Rico is doing now that they have opened their county up to U.S. immigration. Soon other Central American countries will be following the example. From my understanding, Colombia is now booming, since the revolution has finally ended.

ahhh the people of US, ofcurse they are welcomed, I mean Jesus Christ!! Vensuala is giving free petrol to the poor Americans, no one hates the people America, they just hate your forein policy. You get what I mean or should I spend 10 paragraph explaning.


Originally posted by poet1b
The U.S. left the Taliban alone for awhile, and look what happened. The Middle East was ruled by Kings and Emperors, or Shaws and Sultans or whatever they call them, long before the West discovered they had oil and became interested in them. When the oil is gone, they will return to their primitive existence, and dreaming of migrating to Western nations.

WOW the Taliban, you had to bring Taliban in to this lol. Guess where I'm from, yeah you guessed it Afghanistan and I know well about my history. You do know that Taliban and Alqaeeda was indirectly supported by America to fight the Russians?? Do you know the leader of Hezb-ul-Islmiah who is labelled as a terrorist now, had direct contacts with the ISI of Pakistan which through gained much money and fighting power of the US, to rid of the USSR from Afghanistan, it was these people who later on became the Taliban, and throughout the 1990's America had full support for the Taliban, America was one of the first few countries who recognized Taliban as the official rulling government of Afghanistan. I am well aware of the history of my country and people. All the mess in Afghanistan since the cold war, was directly caused by the games Russia and the great almighty USA was playing in that region to push their own ideas, and guess who paid the price, my people. Over 1 million Afghans died in the war against Russia, war was not necessary but America hated the idea of Communism or socialism, the same thing happened in Iraq.

Remember Qassim?? The true elected president of Iraq who was a socialist, but no no socialism is not accepted by America, I mean how is the American companies gonna profit if the freakin country is socialist, Jesus Christ. If the freakin companies are state owned how are they gonna profit. So as we all know, "excluding you", that the CIA helped Saddam's coup against the people's elected leader. Than as we all know, "excluding you", that America had full support for Saddam while he was killing innocent Iraqis. Who suffered??



[edit on 24-7-2008 by Ownification]




posted on Jul, 24 2008 @ 11:04 PM
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The United States carried out extremely serious interventions into more than 70 nations in this period.


Here is just couple of examples, I won't post the whole 70 cause it's too big.



Greece, 1947-49:
Intervened in a civil war, taking the side of the neo-fascists against the Greek left which had fought the Nazis courageously. The neo-fascists won and instituted a highly brutal regime, for which the CIA created a new internal security agency, KYP. Before long, KYP was carrying out all the endearing practices of secret police everywhere, including systematic torture.

Philippines, 1945-53:
U.S. military fought against leftist forces (Huks) even while the Huks were still fighting against the Japanese invaders. After the war, the U. S. continued its fight against the Huks, defeating them, and then installing a series of puppets as president, culminating in the dictatorship of Ferdinand Marcos.

Albania, 1949-53:
The U.S. and Britain tried unsuccessfully to overthrow the communist government and install a new one that would have been pro-Western and composed largely of monarchists and collaborators with Italian fascists and Nazis.

Iran, 1953:
Prime Minister Mossadegh was overthrown in a joint U.S./British operation. Mossadegh had been elected to his position by a large majority of parliament, but he had made the fateful mistake of spearheading the movement to nationalize a British-owned oil company, the sole oil company operating in Iran. The coup restored the Shah to absolute power and began a period of 25 years of repression and torture, with the oil industry being restored to foreign ownership, as follows: Britain and the U.S., each 40 percent, other nations 20 percent.

Guatemala, 1953-1990s:
A CIA-organized coup overthrew the democratically-elected and progressive government of Jacobo Arbenz, initiating 40 years of death-squads, torture, disappearances, mass executions, and unimaginable cruelty, totaling well over 100,000 victims -indisputably one of the most inhuman chapters of the 20th century. Arbenz had nationalized the U.S. firm, United Fruit Company, which had extremely close ties to the American power elite. As justification for the coup, Washington declared that Guatemala had been on the verge of a Soviet takeover, when in fact the Russians had so little interest in the country that it didn't even maintain diplomatic relations. The real problem in the eyes of Washington, in addition to United Fruit, was the danger of Guatemala's social democracy spreading to other countries in Latin America.

Middle East, 1956-58:
The Eisenhower Doctrine stated that the United States "is prepared to use armed forces to assist" any Middle East country "requesting assistance against armed aggression from any country controlled by international communism." The English translation of this was that no one would be allowed to dominate, or have excessive influence over, the middle east and its oil fields except the United States, and that anyone who tried would be, by definition, "Communist." In keeping with this policy, the United States twice attempted to overthrow the Syrian government, staged several shows-of-force in the Mediterranean to intimidate movements opposed to U.S.-supported governments in Jordan and Lebanon, landed 14,000 troops in Lebanon, and conspired to overthrow or assassinate Nasser of Egypt and his troublesome middle-east nationalism.



posted on Jul, 24 2008 @ 11:17 PM
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Vietnam, 1950-73:
The slippery slope began with siding with ~ French, the former colonizers and collaborators with the Japanese, against Ho Chi Minh and his followers who had worked closely with the Allied war effort and admired all things American. Ho Chi Minh was, after all, some kind of Communist. He had written numerous letters to President Truman and the State Department asking for America's help in winning Vietnamese independence from the French and finding a peaceful solution for his country. All his entreaties were ignored. Ho Chi Minh modeled the new Vietnamese declaration of independence on the American, beginning it with "All men are created equal. They are endowed by their Creator with ..." But this would count for nothing in Washington. Ho Chi Minh was some kind of Communist.
Twenty-three years and more than a million dead, later, the United States withdrew its military forces from Vietnam. Most people say that the U.S. lost the war. But by destroying Vietnam to its core, and poisoning the earth and the gene pool for generations, Washington had achieved its main purpose: preventing what might have been the rise of a good development option for Asia. Ho Chi Minh was, after all, some kind of communist.

The Congo/Zaire, 1960-65:
In June 1960, Patrice Lumumba became the Congo's first prime minister after independence from Belgium. But Belgium retained its vast mineral wealth in Katanga province, prominent Eisenhower administration officials had financial ties to the same wealth, and Lumumba, at Independence Day ceremonies before a host of foreign dignitaries, called for the nation's economic as well as its political liberation, and recounted a list of injustices against the natives by the white owners of the country. The man was obviously a "Communist." The poor man was obviously doomed.
Eleven days later, Katanga province seceded, in September, Lumumba was dismissed by the president at the instigation of the United States, and in January 1961 he was assassinated at the express request of Dwight Eisenhower. There followed several years of civil conflict and chaos and the rise to power of Mobutu Sese Seko, a man not a stranger to the CIA. Mobutu went on to rule the country for more than 30 years, with a level of corruption and cruelty that shocked even his CIA handlers. The Zairian people lived in abject poverty despite the plentiful natural wealth, while Mobutu became a multibillionaire.

Indonesia, 1965:
A complex series of events, involving a supposed coup attempt, a counter-coup, and perhaps a counter-counter-coup, with American fingerprints apparent at various points, resulted in the ouster from power of Sukarno and his replacement by a military coup led by General Suharto. The massacre that began immediately-of Communists, Communist sympathizers, suspected Communists, suspected Communist sympathizers, and none of the above-was called by the New York Times "one of the most savage mass slayings of modern political history." The estimates of the number killed in the course of a few years begin at half a million and go above a million.
It was later learned that the U.S. embassy had compiled lists of "Communist" operatives, from top echelons down to village cadres, as many as 5,000 names, and turned them over to the army, which then hunted those persons down and killed them. The Americans would then check off the names of those who had been killed or captured. "It really was a big help to the army. They probably killed a lot of people, and I probably have a lot of blood on my hands," said one U.S. diplomat. "But that's not all bad. There's a time when you have to strike hard at a decisive moment. "

www.thirdworldtraveler.com...

[edit on 24-7-2008 by Ownification]



posted on Jul, 24 2008 @ 11:41 PM
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You talk about Africa as if it was a country you know something about LOL

Yeah we see that you don't mind our help when fighting the russians but when we ask you to turn over Osama Bin Laden you say "F" off America. Then when we give you the same damn ultimatum we gave sadam when we told em to give up his helm he said "F" off America,, yeah we don't like that too much. We don't like communism, and I see people here trying to convert our country to that from the inside but I can see that too.

Personally, I think the taliban are a bunch of A holes.

I suppose you could make this about the unocal oil pipeline and even that I'd have to say it had nothing to do with routing the damn taliban. Fact is, if you would have just turned the son of a bitch bin laden over to us NOTHING would have happened but NOOOOO you wanted to find out what we're made of, you thought we wouldn't do anything about that.

Yeah yeah the CIA trained Bin Laden blah blah blah

SO WHAT!

Blowback Blah Blah Blah Blah Yawn

SO WHAT!

See how easy that is ha ha ha I think Karzai is a heroin dealer and my Government ought to take em out but they say he is not so I got things I don't like about em too but

SO WHAT!

Oh and by the way,, the taliban can kiss my ass, you think we give a rats ass what you and the damn taliban think now? As long as we helped you the Russians were fighting a never ending battle like our Vietnam was.

Had we not done that, you'd be talkin a lot more russian.

You throw all this crap about what we do in our faces as if you got something on us LOL as if we don't know the same crap you posted has been posted fifty times on ATS if not more and still say

SO WHAT!

As far as your predictions America is going to fall apart,,

How much you wanna bet

we don't


- Con






[edit on 24-7-2008 by Conspiriology]



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 12:45 AM
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Wow, what a nice read.

I noticed that there was nothing on that guys page that talked about Russian intervention, or Chinese.

Once again, the US is the bad guy, no one else on this planet has ever done anything wrong.



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 12:50 AM
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ok, invade America...who is going to take the first swing at us???

thats right, sit back down no one has the guts to take the first shot so just shut up and continue your pathetic lives in your pathetic third world countries while we remain free to own guns and shoot them anytime we like.



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 05:07 AM
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Is every other country 'third world' in comparision to the USA ?


I was wondering because guns are illegal in Australia, so I must be one of the unfortunates on this planet.


Just curious


res



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 05:19 AM
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I think when no man is hungry, when all men have decent shelter and when mankind learns to live with tolerance and respect for the differences he sees in his fellowman, only then will wars stop.

I actually think that this is impossible because mankind on the whole is inherently greedy, egotistical and selfish.

take care all
res



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 06:00 AM
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resistancia - That's where the problem lies. How can any human being claim to understand the mind set of every human on this Earth. Every human being is different and anyone who puts all of human kind in the same basket is truly ignorant.

In that respect, you obviously don't subscribe too, or understand tolerance. It's something only civilized human beings subscribe too.



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 06:03 AM
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Originally posted by LIL-JON
Mods bann this guy now! He's a commuie


[edit on 19-7-2008 by LIL-JON]


...and you are too new here so i would say you are disinfo agent



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 06:06 AM
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Originally posted by kindred
resistancia - That's where the problem lies. How can any human being claim to understand the mind set of every human on this Earth. Every human being is different and anyone who puts all of human kind in the same basket is truly ignorant.

In that respect, you obviously don't subscribe too, or understand tolerance. It's something only civilized human beings subscribe too.


How am I uncivilised ? Please explain



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 06:09 AM
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I love posters that make have a go at another and then go offline.

cowardly



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 07:18 AM
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Originally posted by Conspiriology
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You talk about Africa as if it was a country you know something about LOL

Yeah we see that you don't mind our help when fighting the russians but when we ask you to turn over Osama Bin Laden you say "F" off America. Then when we give you the same damn ultimatum we gave sadam when we told em to give up his helm he said "F" off America,, yeah we don't like that too much. We don't like communism, and I see people here trying to convert our country to that from the inside but I can see that too.

Personally, I think the taliban are a bunch of A holes.

I suppose you could make this about the unocal oil pipeline and even that I'd have to say it had nothing to do with routing the damn taliban. Fact is, if you would have just turned the son of a bitch bin laden over to us NOTHING would have happened but NOOOOO you wanted to find out what we're made of, you thought we wouldn't do anything about that.

Yeah yeah the CIA trained Bin Laden blah blah blah

SO WHAT!

Blowback Blah Blah Blah Blah Yawn

SO WHAT!

See how easy that is ha ha ha I think Karzai is a heroin dealer and my Government ought to take em out but they say he is not so I got things I don't like about em too but

SO WHAT!

Oh and by the way,, the taliban can kiss my ass, you think we give a rats ass what you and the damn taliban think now? As long as we helped you the Russians were fighting a never ending battle like our Vietnam was.

Had we not done that, you'd be talkin a lot more russian.

You throw all this crap about what we do in our faces as if you got something on us LOL as if we don't know the same crap you posted has been posted fifty times on ATS if not more and still say

SO WHAT!

As far as your predictions America is going to fall apart,,

How much you wanna bet

we don't


- Con






[edit on 24-7-2008 by Conspiriology]

lol when America asked the Taliban to hand Osama over do you even know what the Taliban replied?? The Taliban made a public statement asking America to provide evidence which proves Osama guilty, but no who cares, let's go bomb them. Who cares if more Afghans die, it's just couple of more terrorists, nothing much. Their lives are not as important as Americans, that's how your brain operates I guess. The America could have done was provide some evidence backing their claim but noooo who gives a pooops ass about evidence, we think Osama did it fullstop.

Every action has it's consiquences you know that right, by saying so what, let me explain so what. At the end you will suffer, at the end you will be the victem, your economy is dying, your troops are dying, enocent people in that region are dying, so what, you are borrowing money from China to pay for the Iraq war, so what
I guess those thick head Nazis probably said the same thing when their empire was about to collapse, probably the USSR as well. History repeats itself
so what lol

It's good that more fire breathing terrorists are dying lol.



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 07:23 AM
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Originally posted by jerico65
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Wow, what a nice read.

I noticed that there was nothing on that guys page that talked about Russian intervention, or Chinese.

Once again, the US is the bad guy, no one else on this planet has ever done anything wrong.

If you read my post I clearly stated that USA and USSR were both playing their game in that region to push their own ideas which they both thought were correct, the people of the region was not important and is not important, which were the ones who suffered. I'm not saying USSR or China is any better. Why am I consentrating on America?? Well because their are many patriots out there who believe America is an angel and they need to wake up
stop living in a fantasy and stop believing in Fire Breathing Terrorists
they don't exist.



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 07:50 AM
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Ownif,

The article you posted was pretty good. I was really impressed and in the spirit of debate I would say you scored pretty good with that.

Here comes the but,

BUTTTT, Every account had a very specific America is evil tint. How we did something so bad that it points to us being the bad guy. It was so skewed that one can only assume that the "Outside source" was an anti American, bash the US Article probably from some Communist rag. The information is probably based on truth and then twisted for the benefit of the authors. So in the spirit of debate I say you have my attention. But please give me the source so I can ascertain the origin and the validity. I've seen plenty of manufactured historical events that take a bit of truth and the they throw in a bunch of bull to make it all non sense.

America is ruthless and hard in the way our government operates at times. But I would think that in today's environment people would understand that if your leaders are complete wusses then your country and your way of life is in jeopardy of shriveling up and fading away. You hear a lot of Americans tell you how great America is and how sweet it is here in the good ol USA. Because we kinda like it and we would be pissed if we were to have to live like a third world country (Australia isn't a third world country).

So please give me the source so I can verify your info.

Until then I don't buy it as being 100% true. Maybe its 75% true with a flavored anti US twist. And thats the worst kind of lie there is.

Take care,

Will



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 07:58 AM
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You know, I read the heading of this topic and it made me think, what is wrong with this world? I read almost 2/3rds of the threads and I had to stop. Yes, what our government is doing is not right, at all. Wars are not right, at all. So because our government is not right by making war, which is what you say, that means you want to make war on us then. So then, who would be right, and who would be wrong? If you do it your way by waging war on us, that doesn`t make you any better then our government.

I believe we all need to grow up and start learning to be a little more spiritual with our lives, instead of killing each other, learn to live together in peace and make ourselves and this world grow into what it needs to be.



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 08:02 AM
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Originally posted by Ownification

lol when America asked the Taliban to hand Osama over do you even know what the Taliban replied?? The Taliban made a public statement asking America to provide evidence which proves Osama guilty, but no who cares, let's go bomb them. Who cares if more Afghans die, it's just couple of more terrorists, nothing much. Their lives are not as important as Americans, that's how your brain operates I guess. The America could have done was provide some evidence backing their claim but noooo who gives a pooops ass about evidence, we think Osama did it fullstop.


At the time Osama was under due process law just like any other and telling the taliban what proof we had would have jeopardized his trial.

What YOU don't know is Osama had been suing the United States for quite some time warning us in the lawsuits were his threats and his admission to his involvment in 911 in addition other incriminating evidence. Apparently you don't think he had anything to do with it.

It wasn't US you can blame didn't care it was the Taliban who forced our hand. Apparently you think the sonfabitch is worth dying for


Osama Bin Ladens Lawsuit below.
I would print it and read it when you have about a half hour or so as it is a lot to absorb



PETITION FOR REDRESS OF GRIEVANCES

REGARDING THE UNITED STATES' UNCONSTITUTIONAL FINANCIAL AID TO ISRAEL AND OCCUPATION OF VARIOUS COUNTRIES IN THE MIDDLE EAST


WHEREAS, Government is to be the Creator's minister of Justice on Earth – "God's minister [to the People] for good," (Romans 13:4), and

WHEREAS, if Government turns against the People, ministering for evil and injustice, rather than for good, it is no longer of the Creator, and loses any Right to the People's continued allegiance and obedience, and

WHEREAS, the Declaration of Independence states, "We hold these truths to be self- evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness -- that to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute a new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.", and

WHEREAS, following the adoption of the Declaration of Independence in Philadelphia by the Continental Congress, We the People of America abolished an abusive, tyrannical 150 year-old Government and instituted a new Government based on Principles considered essential to secure Life, Liberty and Happiness, and

WHEREAS, We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the General Welfare, and secure the blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, established a Constitution for the United States of America, with organized Powers, enumerated and strictly limited, such enumeration and limitation considered essential to secure the Safety and Happiness of the People, and

WHEREAS, Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution of the United States of America enumerates and strictly limits the Powers of the Congress of the United States, and

WHEREAS, Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution of the United States of America does NOT provide Congress with the Power to lay and collect Taxes from the People for the purpose of aiding any foreign Government, and

WHEREAS, Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution of the United States of America does NOT provide Congress with the Power to lay and collect taxes from the People for the purpose of aiding a foreign Government's invasion, occupation, and oppression of the People of another State, and

WHEREAS, Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution of the United States of America does NOT provide Congress with the Power to lay and collect taxes from the People for the purpose of depriving the Peoples of foreign States the very Rights of Nature enjoyed by every human being and protected here by our Constitution, and

WHEREAS, Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution of the United States of America does provide Congress with the Power to lay and collect taxes from the People to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States, and

WHEREAS, professors John Mearsheimer (University of Chicago) and Stephen Walt (Harvard University) have published a paper titled, The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy, and

WHEREAS, Jimmy Carter (former President of the United States of America) has published a book titled, Palestine Peace Not Apartheid, and

WHEREAS, evidence presented by Mearsheimer, Walt and Carter shows that the United States has abandoned its own national interest and security to advance the interests of the modern State of Israel, that neither strategic nor moral arguments can justify the United States' unconditional support for Israel, that the United States has become the de facto enabler of Israel's unlawful expansion and military occupation of the Palestinian Territories, and that United States policy in the Middle East (including giving Israel well over $140 billion in U.S. income tax revenues) has been driven by blind obedience to the "Israel Lobby," and that the Israel Lobby attacks any person or organization that criticizes or is perceived to be a threat to Israel's self-interests, and

WHEREAS, evidence presented by Mearsheimer, Walt and Carter demonstrates that the Israel Lobby behaves as if it can do no wrong and is untouchable; in their paper, Mearsheimer and Walt address the Lobby's extraordinary efforts to improperly manipulate and direct U.S. policy toward support of Israel; they address the Lobby's extraordinary influence in the U.S. Congress and the U.S. Executive, its extraordinary manipulation of America's media and policy research and advocacy groups and its growing efforts on American campuses to perpetuate myths about Israel and prevent criticism of Israel, and

WHEREAS, the nation of Israel has no Constitution or Bill of Rights that limits the power of government and guarantees the individual Rights of its People. Israel's government is not subject to constitutional limits on its power, nor does it recognize, guarantee or protect the unalienable, Natural Rights of the human beings living under its military authority and control, including those Palestinians residing in the Occupied Territories, and

WHEREAS, Israel's government is dominated by a class of government-corporate-military elites who exercise complete control over the country. This immoral control over the Israeli and Palestinian People would not be possible without the powerful influence of the Israeli Lobby and the billions in annual financial support received from the U.S. government in the form of direct foreign aid and U.S. military intervention across the Middle East, and

WHEREAS, in America, unlike Israel, the government of the United States rests upon a firm foundation of Constitutional Law designed to protect and secure the individual rights and freedoms of every American; the lawful authority exercised by our government is limited to that which is delegated and derived from the consent of the People; in America, the rights and freedoms come not from our servant government, but from God; and

WHEREAS, in America, unlike the State of Israel, America has a form of government and system of equal justice that strictly prohibits the discrimination, maltreatment and oppression of any person or group of people based on their ethnic origin, religion or race, and

WHEREAS, in America, unlike Israel, the People possess certain Rights that cannot be denied except by Due Process of law; those Rights include the Right to private property and to be secure in our homes and possessions, the Right to defend our lives and property against aggression, and the Right to live our lives according to the dictates of personal conscience so long as we harm no others, and respect the equal individual rights of our fellow Americans, and

WHEREAS, the State of Israel, governing as a de facto religious theocracy does not recognize the concept of unalienable (Creator-endowed) individual rights for every person regardless of ethnic origin, religion or race; Israel does not share America's core moral values expressed in our Founding Documents; Israel does not guarantee religious freedom to its citizens, nor does it tolerate free religious expression, and

WHEREAS, evidence presented by Mearsheimer, Walt and Carter show the tax revenues collected from the People of the United States and sent to Israel are being used by Israel as follows:


Treating the Palestinians worse than cattle, detaining them at will for long periods at hundreds of check points (denying emergency medical care to those who need it and causing produce to rot on farmers' trucks, etc.);
Arresting, torturing and assassinating thousands without due process; destroying homes, orchards and business places to make room for new Israeli settlements and highways that are off limits to the Palestinians;
Keeping Palestinian cities under intermittent curfews, with confinements sometimes lasting for weeks;
Depriving the Palestinians of their basic Natural Rights to assemble, speak freely, travel freely, and to fair and public trials in civilian rather than military tribunals;
Imposing indefinite sentences of imprisonment;
Preventing free trade of produce and manufactured goods originating in the occupied territories;
Curtailing the supply of water and foodstuffs into the occupied territories if for the benefit of the Palestinians, resulting in widespread hunger and malnutrition;
Discharging untreated sewage from the new hilltop Israeli settlements into the surrounding fields and villages;
Closing Palestinian schools and universities; arresting educators; closing bookstores, censoring libraries;
Encouraging unemployment;
Intercepting aid meant for the Palestinians and using it for the benefit of Israel, including the razing of more Palestinian homes and the construction of additional Jewish settlements connected by limited access highways, and
WHEREAS, every year billions of dollars are confiscated from taxpayers by the United States Government and sent to Israel in direct violation of the U.S. Constitution; this theft of the labor of American citizens is made even more egregious by the fact that the bulk of our foreign aid to Israel is used to expand and enforce its unlawful and immoral occupation of the Palestinian Territories, and its subjugation and long-standing oppression of the Palestinian People, and

WHEREAS, evidence presented by Carter demonstrates that all this Israeli directed abuse is aimed at forcing the Palestinians to abandon their homes and leave their ancestral lands, and

WHEREAS, evidence presented by Carter demonstrates that tax revenues collected from the People of the United States are now being used by Israel to build a wall to imprison Palestinians who have not already fled the nation, allowing them to depart for distant countries but never allowing them to re-enter Israel, and

WHEREAS, Palestinian Muslims are being systemically oppressed and their society is being deliberately destroyed by Israel, and

WHEREAS, Palestinians and empathetic Muslims in surrounding countries are now directing their anger and hostilities against America because our financial aid and military support of Israel is paying for and enabling the virtual destruction of the Palestinian society, and

WHEREAS, in 1994, when asked how to liberate Palestine, bin Baz, the foremost juridical authority in the kingdom of Saudi Arabia said it was impossible to reach a solution for the Middle East unless the problem was acknowledged as an Islamic issue, and unless Muslims stand shoulder to shoulder in solidarity waging an Islamic jihad against the Jews, the Palestinians would not be saved, and

WHEREAS, on December 24, 1994, Osama bin Laden wrote to bin Baz, saying:


"The legal duty regarding Palestine and our brothers there—these poor men, women, and children who have nowhere to go—is to wage jihad ….", and

WHEREAS, the doctrine of jihad is traditionally split into two categories: "offensive" and "defensive"; an offensive jihad, to conquer new lands for Islam and convert new peoples to the faith, is a collective responsibility of all Muslims but it must always be called by a Caliph, the recognized leader of the world Islamic community; bin Laden always describes his jihad as "defensive", something for which no formal declaration of war is required, and

WHERAS, in Michael Scheuer's words (Scheuer, Imperial Hubris, pp. 7-8; also ibid., pp. 17-18, 131-8), a defensive jihad is "an Islamic military reaction triggered by an attack by non-Muslims on Islamic faith, on Muslims, on Muslim territory, or on all three. In this scenario, it is doctrinally incumbent on each Muslim to contribute to the fight against the attacker to the best of his ability. In such a jihad, there is no Qur'anic requirement for a central Muslim leader or leadership to authorize warlike actions. Once Islam is attacked, each Muslim knows his personal duty is to fight. He needs no one else's authority. Doctrine and historical practice therefore void any claim that bin Laden cannot lead a jihad because he was not educated as an Islamic scholar and has no religious credentials … Bin Laden's genius lies not in his call for a defensive jihad, but in constructing and articulating a consistent, convincing case that an attack on Islam is under way and is being led and directed by America." and

WHEREAS, on August 23, 1996, in a statement dubbed the "Ladenese Epistle" and addressed to Muslims across the world, bin Laden said:

"It is no secret to you my brothers, that the people of Islam have been afflicted with oppression, hostility, and injustice by the Judeo-Christian alliance and its supporters. This shows our enemies' belief that Muslims' blood is the cheapest and that their property and wealth is merely loot. Your blood has been spilt in Palestine … and the horrific image of the massacres in Quana in Lebanon are still fresh in the people's minds."

"And today…we work to do away with the injustice that has befallen our umma at the hands of the Judeo-Crusader alliance, especially after its occupation of Jerusalem…."

"Brother Muslims in Saudi Arabia, does it make any sense at all that our country is the biggest purchaser of weapons from America in the world and America's biggest trading partner in the region, while at the very same time the Americans are occupying Saudi Arabia and supporting—with money, arms and manpower—their Jewish brothers in the occupation of Palestine and their murder and expulsion of Muslims there?"

"Men of the radiant future of our umma of Muhammad, raise the banner of jihad [the defensive war] up high against the Judeo-American alliance that has occupied the holy places of Islam."



"I say to our Muslim brothers across the world: your brothers in Saudi Arabia and Palestine are calling for your help and asking you to share with them in the jihad [the defensive war] against the enemies of God, your enemies the Israelis and Americans." and



WHEREAS, in November 1996, an interview with Osama bin Laden was published in Nida'ul Islam, in which bin Laden said:

"We are grateful to God Most Exalted in that He has facilitated jihad [the defensive war] in His cause for us, against the Israeli-American attacks on the Holy Sanctuaries of Islam."



"Our encouragement and call to Muslims to enter jihad [the defensive war] against the Americans and the Israeli occupiers are actions which we undertake as religious obligations."

"What can be of no doubt in this fierce Judeo-Christian campaign against the Muslim world, the likes of which have never been seen before, is that Muslims must prepare with all their might to repel the enemy in military, economic, missionary, and all other areas." and


WHEREAS, in March 1997, in an interview with Osama bin Laden published by CNN's Peter Arnett, bin Laden said:

"We have declared jihad [the defensive war] against the US government, because the US government is unjust, criminal, and tyrannical. It has committed acts that are extremely unjust, hideous, and criminal, whether directly or through its support of the Israeli occupation of [Palestine]. And we believe the US is directly responsible for those who were killed in Palestine, Lebanon and Iraq. The mention of the US reminds us before everything else of those innocent children who were dismembered, their heads and arms cut off in the recent explosion that took place in Qana [in Lebanon]. This US government abandoned even humanitarian feelings by these hideous crimes. It transgressed all bounds and behaved in a way not witnessed before by any power or any imperialist power in the world. … Due to its subordination to the Jews, the arrogance and haughtiness of the US regime has reached such an extent that it occupied the gibla [the direction of the prayers] of the Muslims…For this and other acts of aggression and injustice, we have declared jihad [the defensive war] against the US…the US is responsible for any reaction, because it extended its war against troops to civilians…As for what you asked regarding the American people, they are not exonerated from responsibility, because they chose this government and voted for it despite their knowledge of its crimes in Palestine, Lebanon and Iraq, and in other places, and its support of client regimes who filled their prisons with our best children and scholars."



"Today, the nation is interacting well by uniting its efforts through jihad [the defensive war] against the US, which has, in collaboration with the Israeli government, led the ferocious campaign against the Islamic world in occupying the holy sites of the Muslims."



"The US today, as a result of this arrogance, has set a double standard, calling whoever goes against its injustice a terrorist. It wants to occupy our countries, steal our resources, install collaborators to rule us with man-made laws, and wants us to agree on all these issues. If we refuse to do so, it will say we are terrorists. With a fleeting glance at US behavior, we find that it judges the behavior of the poor Palestinian children whose country was occupied: if they throw stones against the Israeli occupation it says they are terrorists, whereas when the Israeli pilots bombed the United Nations building in Qana, Lebanon, while it was full of women and children, the US stopped any plan to condemn Israel…Wherever we look, we see the US as the leader of terrorism and crime in the world…The US does not consider it terrorism when hundreds of thousands of our sons and brothers in Iraq died for lack of food and medicine. So there is no basis for what the US says…."



"If the American government is serious about avoiding the explosions in the US, then let it stop provoking the feelings of 1.25 billion Muslims. Those hundred of thousands who have been killed or displaced in Iraq, Palestine, and Lebanon, do have brothers and relatives [who] will make Ramzi Yousef a symbol and a teacher. The US will drive them to transfer the battle into the United States. Everything is made possible to protect the blood of the American citizen while the bloodshed of Muslims is permitted everywhere. With this kind of behavior, the US government is hurting itself, hurting Muslims and hurting the American people."



"If there is a message that I may send through you, then it is a message I address to the mothers of the American troops who came here with their military uniforms walking proudly up and down our land while the scholars of our country are thrown in prisons. I say that this represents a blatant provocation to 1.25 billion Muslims. To those mothers I say that if they are concerned for their sons, then let them object to the American government's policy and to the American president. Do not let them be cheated by his standing before the bodies of the killed soldiers describing the freedom fighters in Saudi Arabia as terrorists. It is he who is a terrorist who pushed their sons into this for the sake of the Israeli interest…They came in support of the Israeli forces in occupied Palestine…." and


WHEREAS, in December 1998, in an interview with Osama bin Laden published by the Qatari television network, Al-Jazeera, bin Laden said:

"America accuses Iraq of using poison gas against the Kurds, against its own people. It also accused Iraq of using lethal weapons against Iran; however, what people should realize is that America was not accusing Iraq at that time, but rather was supporting it through various means and agents in the region. But from the point when Iraq became a notable regional power, and even became the biggest Arab power in the region, threatening the security of Jews and Israelis who are occupying Jerusalem, America started to dig all these issues up again and to claim that it would have to hold Iraq to account…."

"It is now clear that it is Israel that is behind all these attacks on states in the Islamic world…the Jews were able to employ American and British Christians to do the job of attacking Iraq. America claims that it is bringing Iraq to account and to justice, but the fact is that the Israeli authority and the Jewish authority, which has become powerful inside the White House, as everyone can see – the Defense Minister is Jewish, the Secretary of State is Jewish, the CIA and the National Security officials are Jewish, all the biggest officials are Jews—led the Christians to clip the wings of the Islamic world. Their real target is not Saddam Hussein but the growing power of the Arab and Islamic world."



"The infidels tell Muslims that bin Laden is threatening to kill civilians—yet what are they doing in Palestine? They're not only killing innocents, but children as well! And America has taken over the media sphere, manipulating in different measures these enormous powers as it sees fit. Every American is our enemy, whether he fights directly or whether he pays taxes."



"It is not acceptable in such a struggle as this that he [the Crusader] should attack and enter my land and holy sanctuaries, and plunder Muslims' oil, and then when he encounters any resistance from Muslims, to label them terrorists. This is stupidity, or considering others stupid. We believe it is our legal duty to resist this occupation with all our might, and punish it in the same way as it punishes us."

"How angry America gets when it attacks people and those people resist…what is wrong with resisting those who attack you? All religious communities have such a principle…This is a legal right." and


WHEREAS, on September 24, 2001, in a statement faxed to Al-Jazeera, bin Laden said:

"We urge these brothers to be considered the first martyrs in the battle of Islam against the neo-Crusader-Jewish campaign led by Bush, the biggest Crusader, under the banner of the cross."


WHEREAS, on October 7, 2001, in a statement aired on Al-Jazeera, bin Laden said:

"America has been filled with terror from north to south and from east to west, praise and blessings to God. What America is tasting today is but a fraction of what we have been tasting for decades. For over eighty years our umma has endured this humiliation and contempt. Its sons have been killed, its blood has been shed, its holy sanctuaries have been violated, all in a manner contrary to that revealed by God, without anyone listening or responding…When these men retaliated on behalf of their poor, oppressed sons, their brothers and sisters in Palestine and in many of our other lands of Islam, the whole world cried out. The infidels [the rest of the world] cried out [in protest at 9-11], and the [Muslim] hypocrites followed them."

"Until this point, a million innocent children have been killed in Iraq, although they had done nothing wrong. But we do not hear anyone condemning this, nor do we hear any juridical decree from the official [Muslim] scholars. As I speak, Israeli tanks and bulldozers are going in and wreaking havoc and sin in Palestine – in Jenin, in Ramallah, in Rafah, in Beit Jala – and other parts of the domain of Islam, and we do not hear anyone protesting or even lifting a finger to stop it. But when after eighty years the sword comes down on America, the hypocrites rise up to lament these killers who have scorned the blood, honor and holy places of Muslims."

"I have only a few words for America and its people: I swear by God Almighty Who raised the heavens without effort that neither America nor anyone who lives there will enjoy safety until safety becomes a reality for us living in Palestine and before all the infidel armies leave the land of Mohammad." and

WHEREAS, on October 10, 2001, the White House announced that it had asked the five major US television networks, ABC, CBS, CNN, Fox, and NBC, to censor al-Qaeda footage, "which meant in practical terms material from al-Jazeera, since it was the only network in a position to deliver it." In a 30-minute conference call, National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice "urged all the American network chiefs not to screen videos from bin Laden." (Miles, Al-Jazeera, p. 116). All five networks agreed they would vet all their clips from the war in Afghanistan, and would not use al-Jazeera's footage live. On October 11, White House press secretary Ari Fleischer "asked American newspaper editors not to publish full transcripts of bin Laden's or al-Qaeda's statements." Britain also tried to exert pressure on the press, Tony Blair summoning the BBC, ITN, and Sky News to Downing Street, where the media adviser, Alistar Campell, "gave them a stern lesson on what would constitute acceptable reporting…Any more bin Laden footage that materialized, the three networks were told, would have to be censored, for there was a 'real danger that they could be sending out messages to terrorists members in their network'." Hugh Miles notes that "These calls for censorship demonstrated a dim appreciation of al-Qaeda's proven ability to manipulate modern communications." and

WHEREAS, on October 21, 2001, in an interview with Taysir Alluni of Al-Jazeera, aired on January 31, 2002, bin Laden said:

"As far as concerns [America's] description of these attacks [on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon] as terrorist acts, that description is wrong. These young men, for whom God has created a path, have shifted the battle to the heart of the United States, and they have destroyed its most outstanding landmarks, its economic and military landmarks, by the grace of God. And they have done this because of our words – and we have previously incited and roused them to action – in self-defense, defense of our brothers in Palestine, and in order to free our holy sanctuaries. And if inciting for these reasons is terrorism, and if killing those that kill our sons is terrorism, then let history witness that we are terrorists."

"We have incited and urged the killing of Americans and Jews. That is true."


"But I mention that there are other events that took place, bigger, greater, and more dangerous than the collapse of the towers. It is that this Western civilization, which is backed by America, has lost its value and appeal. The immense materialistic towers, which preach Freedom, Human Rights, and Equality, were destroyed. These values were revealed as a total mockery, as was made clear when the US government interfered and banned the media outlets from airing our words (which don't exceed a few minutes), because they felt that the truth started to appear to the American people, and that we aren't really terrorists in the way they want to define them, but rather because we are being violated in Palestine, in Iraq, in Lebanon, in Sudan, in Somalia, in Kashmir, in the Philippines, and throughout the world, and that this is a reaction from the young men of our umma against the violations of the British Government. [1] So they declared what they declared, and they ordered what they ordered, and they forgot everything they mentioned about free speech, and unbiased opinion and all those matters. So I say that freedom and human rights in America have been sent to the guillotine with no prospect of return, unless those values are quickly reinstated. The government will take the American people and the West in general into a choking life, into an unsupportable hell, because of the fact that it has very strong ties with and are under the payroll of, the Zionist lobby, which serves the needs of Israel, which kills our sons and our children without right so that it can keep on ruling with total control."

"In light of these recent attacks and what ensued from them, Bush and Blair quickly reacted and said that now is the time to create an independent nation for Palestine. Amazing! And yet there was apparently no suitable time in the last 10 years to address this issue before the [9-11] attacks happened? They evidently won't wisen up without the language of beatings and killings. So, as they kill us, without a doubt we have to kill them, until we obtain a balance in terror. This is the first time, in recent years, that the balance of terror has evened out between the Muslims and the Americans; previously, the Americans did to us whatever they pleased, and the victim wasn't even allowed to complain. And then Clinton comes out and tells us that Israel has a right to defend itself, after the slaughter of Qana…And when the new President Bush came [into office] with Minister Colin Powell, they said within the first months of their rule that they would move the new US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, and that Jerusalem would be the eternal capital of Israel, and the Congress and the Senate applauded them. They will not come to their senses until the attacks fall on their heads and, with the grace of God, until the battle has moved inside America. We will strive to maintain the fight until victory is attained or until we meet God [through martydom]."

"I say that jihad is without doubt mandatory for all Muslims, to free al-Aqsa [the mosque in Jerusalem], or to save the weak in Palestine, Lebanon, Iraq, and all Islamic lands; there is no doubt that freeing the Arabian peninsula from the polytheists is also compulsory. And concerning this talk about Osama pushing the Palestinian issue to the forefront: that is not true. The humble servant [bin Laden] made a speech in the year 1407 AH [1986] that urged Muslims to boycott American products, and I used to say that the Americans take our money and give it to the Jews, so they can kill our children with it in Palestine."

"All of the above issues affect each other. The attack on the Americans concerning the Palestine issue helps in regard to the Saudi Arabia issue, and vice versa, as does attacking the Americans because they are considered to be a protective shield for the Jews in the areas of Tabuk [in the northern province of Saudia Arabia, close to Jordan] and the eastern regions of Saudi Arabia."

"It is very strange for Americans and other educated people to talk about the killing of innocent civilians. I mean, who said that our children and civilians are not innocents, and that the shedding of their blood is permissible? Whenever we kill their civilians, the whole world yells at us from east to west, and America starts putting pressure on its allies and puppets. Who said that our blood is not blood and their blood is blood? What about the people who have been killed in our lands for decades? More than 1,000,000 children died in Iraq [from US and UN imposed sanctions], and they are still dying, so why do we not hear people that cry or protest, or anyone who reassures, or anyone who sends condolences? And it is said in truth by our Prophet in the authentic hadith: "A women has entered hell because of a cat she tied up without giving it food or without letting it eat from the blessings of the earth." And that is just because of a cat, so what about the millions of Muslims that are getting killed? Where are the [comments of the] educated? Where are the writers? Where are the scholars? Where are the free? Where are the ones who have one atom of faith in their hearts? How is it that these people are moved when civilians die in America, and not when we are being killed everyday? Everyday in Palestine, children are killed. There is a great misconception in people today, which needs to be corrected by every means possible, and the numbers [who have died] need to be recalculated. There is a strong instinct in humans to lean towards the powerful without knowing it, so when they talk about us, they know we will not answer them, and if we stand in the ranks of the government and the Americans, they will think that they feel something that we don't… A long time ago, one of the kings that ruled Arabs killed an Arab, and people became inured to the idea that kings kill humans. So the brother of the deceased went to the king and killed him. After this victory, the people were astonished and said: 'You are able to kill a king just because of your brother?' So who permitted the rule of that king?' These are both equal souls, and the blood of Muslims is equal, but in those times some people's blood was more equal than others, so that gentle man replied: 'My brother is my king.' And today, all our brothers in Palestine are our kings, so we kill the kings of disbelief and the kings of the Crusaders, and the civilians among the disbelievers, in response to the amount of our sons they kill: this is correct in both religion and logic."



"And the United States has involved itself and its people again and again for more than 53 years, and recognized and supported Israel, and dispatched a general air supply line in 1393 AH [1973] during the days of Nixon, from America to Tel Aviv, with weapons, aid, and men, which affected the outcome of the battle, so how could we not fight it [America]? It is incumbent upon every Muslim to fight it. So if it wants to survive, we have offered some simple advice, but America has terrorized and it has erased its own values."

"The Americans have made laughable claims. They said that there are hidden messages intended for terrorists in bin Laden's statements. It is as if we are living in the time of carrier-pigeons, without the existence of telephones, without travelers, without the Internet, without regular mail, without faxes, without email. This is just farcical; words which belittle people's intellects. We swore that America would never dream of safety, until safety becomes a reality for us living in Palestine. That has exposed the American government, and that it exists as an agent of Israel, and puts Israel's needs before the needs of its own people. So the situation is straightforward: America won't be able to leave this ordeal unless it pulls out of the Arabian peninsula, and it ceases its meddling in Palestine, and throughout the Islamic world. If we give this equation to any child in any American school, he would easily solve it in a second. But, according to Bush's actions, the equation won't be solved unless our swords fall on their heads, with the permission of God."

"So any nation that joins the Jewish trenches has only itself to blame." and


WHEREAS, on November 3, 2001, in a letter to Al-Jazeera, bin Laden said:

"So the issue is one of faith and doctrine, not of a 'war on terror," as Bush and Blair depict it… After American politicians had spoken, and American newspapers and television channels overflowed with evident Crusader hatred in this campaign against Islam and its people, Bush left no room for the doubts or media opinion. He stated clearly that this is a Crusader war. He said this in front of the whole world so as to emphasize this fact. Those who maintain that this is war is against terrorism, what is this terrorism that they talk about at a time when people of the umma have been slaughtered for decades, in response to which we do not hear a single voice or action of resistance?"



"…and as for events in Palestine and Iraq, words cannot do them justice. More than a million children have been killed in Iraq, and the killing continues. As for what is happening these days in Palestine, may God help us. No one, not even animals, would put up with what is going on there. One of my confidants told me that he saw a butcher slaughtering a camel in front of another camel. When it saw the blood coming out of its brother it got so agitated and enraged that it bit the man's hand and tore it right off…How can the poor mothers in Palestine bear the murder of their children at the hands of the oppressive Jewish policemen, with American support, American aeroplanes and tanks? Those who distinguish between America and Israel are true enemies of the umma." and


WHEREAS, on November 2, 2001, in an interview published in a Pakistani newspaper and in a London newspaper on November 12, 2001, bin Laden said:

"The American people should remember that they pay taxes to their government and that they voted for their president. Their government makes weapons and provides them to Israel, which they use to kill Palestinian Muslims. Given that the American Congress is a committee that represents the people, the fact that it agrees with the actions of the American government proves that America in its entirety is responsible for the atrocities that it is committing against Muslims. I demand the American people to take notice of their government's policy against Muslims. They described the government's policy against Vietnam as wrong. They should now take the same stand that they did previously. The onus is on Americans to prevent Muslims from being killed at the hands of their government."

"We ourselves are the victims of murder and massacres. We are only defending ourselves against the United States. This is a defensive jihad to protect our land and our people. That's why I have said that if we don't have security, neither will the Americans. It's a very simple equation that any American child could understand: live and let others live."

"The Israeli forces are occupying our land and the American forces are sitting on our territory. We no longer have any choice but jihad [the defensive war]."

"So good people are everywhere, but the pro-Jewish lobby has taken the United States and the West hostage."

"…if the Americans have charges against us, we have a long list of charges against them." and



WHEREAS, on December 26, 2001, in a statement released to Al-Jazeera, bin Laden said:

"History recounts that America supported everyone who waged jihad [the defensive war] and fought against Russia, but when God blessed these Arab mujahidin with going to help those poor innocent women and children in Palestine, America became angry and turned its back, betraying all those who had fought in Afghanistan."



"Slaughtering children was something for which the head of oppression, unbelief, and hostility, Pharoh, was famous, yet the sons of Israel have done the same thing to our sons in Palestine. The whole world has witnessed Israeli soldiers killing Muhammad al-Durreh, and many others like him."



"The events of [September 11] are merely a response to the continuous injustice inflicted upon our sons in Palestine, Iraq, Somalia, southern Sudan, and other places, like Kashmir. The matter concerns the entire umma. People need to wake up from their sleep and try to find a solution to this catastrophe that is threatening all of humanity."



"Those who condemn these operations [ 9-11] have viewed the event in isolation and have failed to connect it to previous events or to the reasons behind it. Their view is blinkered and lacks either a legitimate or a rational basis. They merely saw others in America and the media decrying these operations, so they did the same themselves. These people remind me of the wolf who, seeing a lamb, said to it: 'You were the one who polluted my water last year.' The lamb replied: 'It wasn't me,' but the wolf insisted: 'Yes it was.' The lamb said: 'I was only born this year.' The wolf replied: 'Then it was your mother who polluted my water', and he ate the lamb. When the poor ewe saw her son being torn by the wolf's teeth, her maternal feelings drove her to give the wolf a hard butt. The wolf cried out: 'Look at this terrorism!' And all the parrots repeated what he said, saying 'Yes, we condemn the ewe's butting of the wolf.' What do you think about the wolf eating the ewe's lamb?"



"These blessed, successful strikes are merely a reaction to events in our land in Palestine, in Iraq, and in other places. America has continued this policy with the coming of George Bush Jr, who began his term with violent airstrikes on Iraq to emphasize the policy of oppression and hostility, and to show that the blood of Muslims has no value." [2]



"God gave them the chance to teach a harsh lesson to these arrogant people who think that freedom only has meaning for the white race, and that other peoples should be humiliated and subservient, not even rising up when they strike us, as they did previously in Iraq."



"Our terrorism against America is a praiseworthy terrorism in defense against the oppressor, in order that America will stop supporting Israel, who kills our sons. Can you not understand this? It is very clear."



"America and the western leaders always say that Hamas and Islamic Jihad [the defensive war] is Palestine, and other such militias, are terrorist organizations. If self-defense is terrorism, what is legitimate? Our defense and our fight is no different to that of our brothers in Palestine like Hamas…So let us relieve the oppression of the poor people in Palestine and elsewhere." and


WHEREAS, on October 6, 2002, in a statement posted on the Internet, bin Laden said:

"Why are we fighting and opposing you? The answer is very simple:

(1) Because you attacked us and continue to attack us.

(a) You attacked us in Palestine…

(b) You attacked us in Somalia; you supported the Russian atrocities against us in Chechnya, the Indian oppression against us in Kashmir, and the Jewish aggression against us in Lebanon.

(c) Under your supervision, consent, and orders, the governments of our

countries which act as your collaborators, attack us on a daily

basis…

(d) You steal our wealth and oil at paltry prices because of your international influence and military threats. The theft is indeed the biggest theft ever witnessed by mankind in the history of the world.

(e) Your forces occupy our countries; you spread your military bases throughout them; you corrupt our lands, and you besiege our sanctuaries, to protect the security of the Jews and to ensure the continuity of your pillage of our treasures.

(f) You have starved the Muslims of Iraq, where children die every day. It is a wonder that more than 1.5 million Iraqi children have died as a result of your sanctions, and that you have not shown concern. Yet when 3,000 of your people died, the entire world rises up and has not yet sat down.

(g) You have supported the Jews in their idea that Jerusalem is their eternal capital, and have agreed to move your embassy there. With your help and under your protection, the Israelis are planning to destroy the al-Aqsa mosque. Under the protection of your weapons, Sharon entered the al-Aqsa mosque, to pollute it as a preparation to capture and destroy it.



"Do not expect anything from us but jihad [the defensive war], resistance, and revenge. Is it in any way rational to expect that after America has attacked us for more than half a century, that we will then leave her to live in security and peace?"



"…the American people are the ones who choose their government through their own free will; a choice which stems from their agreement to its policies. Thus, the American people have chosen, consented to, and affirmed their support for Israel's oppression of the Palestinians, the occupation and usurpation of their land, and its continuous killing, torture, punishment, and expulsion of the Palestinians. The American people have the ability and choice to refuse the policies of their government, and even to change it if they want."



"The American people are the ones who pay the taxes which fund the planes that bomb us in Afghanistan, the tanks that strike and destroy our homes in Palestine, the armies which occupy our lands in the Arabian Gulf, and the fleets which ensure the blockade of Iraq. These tax dollars are given to Israel for it to continue attacking us and invade our lands. So the American people are the ones who fund the attacks against us, and they are the ones who oversee the expenditures of these monies in the way they wish, through their elected candidates."



"You are a nation who, rather than ruling by the shari of God in its Constitution and Laws, choose to invent your own laws as you will and desire. You separate religion from your policies, contradicting the pure nature which affirms Absolute Authority to the Lord and your Creator. You flee from the embarrassing question posed to you: How is it possible for God the Almighty to fashion His creation, grant men power over all creatures and land, grant them all the amenities of life, and then deny them that which they are most in need of: knowledge of the laws which govern their lives?"



"You are a nation that permits usury, which has been forbidden by all the religions. Yet you build your economy on investments and usury. As a result of this, in all their different forms and guises, the Jews have taken control of your economy, through which they have then taken control of your media, and now control all aspects of your life making you their servants and achieving their aims at your expense…"



"Let us not forget one of your major characteristics: your duality in both manners and values; your hypocrisy in manners and principles. All manners, principles, and values have two scales: one for you and one for everybody else."



"The freedom and democracy that you call for yourselves and for the white race only; as for the rest of the world, you impose upon it your monstrous, destructive policies and governments, which you call 'friends of America'. Yet, you prevent them from establishing democracies."



"You are the last ones to respect the resolutions and policies of International Law, yet you claim to want to selectively punish anyone else who does the same. Israel has for more than 50 years been pushing UN resolutions and rules to the wall with the full support of America."



"We also advise you to stop supporting Israel, and to end your support of the Indians in Kashmir, the Russians against the Chechens, and also to cease supporting the Manila Government against the Muslims in the southern Philippines."



"…we call upon you to end your support of the corrupt leaders in our countries. Do not interfere in our politics and method of education. Leave us alone, or else expect us in New York and Washington."



"We also call you to deal with us and interact with us on the basis of mutual interests and benefits, rather than the policies of subjugation, theft, and occupation, and not to continue your policy of supporting Jews because this will result in more disasters for you."



WHEREAS, on November 12, 2002, in an audiotape delivered to Al-Jazeera, bin Laden said:

"Our people have suffered murder and torture in Palestine for nearly a century. But as soon as we defend them the world gets agitated and joins forces against the Muslims under the false and unjust pretext of fighting terrorism."



"How long will fear, killing, destruction, displacement, orphaning, and widowing be our sole destiny, while security, stability, and happiness is yours? This is injustice. The time has come to settle accounts. Just as you kill, se you shall be killed; just as you bomb, so you shall be bombed. And there will be more to come." and


WHEREAS, on February 14, 2003, in a statement published on websites and in a Saudi newspaper, bin Laden said:

"One of the most important objectives of this new Crusader campaign, after dividing up the region, is to prepare it for the establishment of what is called the state of Greater Israel, which would incorporate large parts of Iraq and Egypt within its borders, as well as Syria, Lebanon and Jordan, the whole of Palestine, and a large part of Saudi Arabia."



"As the twin towers of New York collapsed, something even greater and more enormous collapsed with them: the myth of the great America and the myth of democracy. It became clear to all that America's values are the lowest, and the myth of the 'land of the free' was destroyed, as was the myth of American national security and the CIA, all praise and glory to God. One of the most important positive effects of our attacks on New York and Washington was to expose the reality of the struggle between the Crusaders and the Muslims, and to demonstrate the enormous hostility that the Crusaders feel towards us. The attacks revealed the American wolf in its true ugliness. The entire world woke up from its slumber, and the Muslims realized the importance of the doctrine of friendship and enmity in God. The spirit of brotherhood in faith amongst Muslims was strengthened, which can be considered a great step towards unification of the Muslims under the word of God and establishing the rightly guided Caliphate with the permission of God. It also became clear to people that America, this unjust power, can be struck down and humiliated. And for the first time, most of the American population is aware of the reality of the Palestinian issue, and that what happened to them in Manhattan was a result of the unjust policies of their government ."



"…our issues – the most important of which is Palestine…." and


WHEREAS, on January 4, 2004, in an audiotape delivered to Al-Jazeera, bin Laden said:

"The occupation of Iraq is a link in the Zionist-Crusader chain of evil. Then comes the full occupation of the rest of the Gulf states to set the stage for controlling and dominating the whole world. For the big powers believe that the Gulf and the Gulf states are the key to controlling the world, due to the presence of the largest oil reserves there."


WHEREAS, on April 15, 2004, in a statement broadcast on Al-Jazeera and Al-Arabiyya, bin Laden said:

"It is well known that security is a vital necessity for every human being. We will not let you monopolize it for yourselves, just as sensible people would not let their leaders compromise their security…Since we have reacted in kind, your description of us as terrorists and of our actions as terrorism necessarily means that you and your actions must be defined likewise. Our actions are but a reaction to yours – your destruction and murder of our people, whether in Afghanistan, Iraq, or Palestine. Look, for example, at the event that terrorized the world, the murder of the wheelchair-bound Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, God have mercy on his soul. We gave our pledge that we will take revenge on America for his death, with God's will.'



"President Bush and leaders like him, the big media institutions, the United Nations, which legislates between army leaders and the mighty General Assembly – all these are merely agents of deception and exploitation. These and others are groups who are a mortal danger to the entire world, the most dangerous and difficult of these being the Zionist lobby." and


WHEREAS, on October 29, 2004, in a videotape broadcast on Al-Jazeera, bin Laden said:

"God knows that the plan of striking the towers had not occurred to us, but the idea came to me when things went just too far with the American-Israeli alliance's oppression and atrocities against our people in Palestine and Lebanon."



"The events that made a direct impression on me were during and after 1982, when America allowed the Israelis to invade Lebanon with the help of its third fleet. [3] They started bombing, killing and wounding many, while others fled in terror. I still remember those distressing scenes: blood, torn limbs, women and children massacred. All over the place, houses were being destroyed and tower blocks were collapsing, crushing their residents, while bombs rained down mercilessly on our homes. It was like a crocodile devouring a child, who could do nothing but scream. Does a crocodile understand anything other than weapons? The whole world heard and saw what happened, but did nothing. In those critical moments, many ideas raged inside me, ideas difficult to describe, but they unleashed a powerful urge to reject injustice and a strong determination to punish the oppressors."



"As I looked at those destroyed towers in Lebanon, it occurred to me to punish the oppressor in kind by destroying towers in America, so that it would have a taste of its own medicine and would be prevented from killing our women and children. On that day I became sure that the oppression and intentional murder of innocent women and children is a deliberate American policy. It seemed to me that "freedom" and "democracy" are actually just terror, just as resistance is labeled "terrorism" and "reaction." Imposing lethal sanctions on millions of people, as Bush Sr. did, and carrying out the mass butchering of children, is the worst thing that humanity has ever known. So is dropping millions of pounds of bombs and explosives on millions of children in Iraq, as Bush Junior did, to remove a former collaborator, and install a new one who will help steal Iraq's oil, as well as commit other atrocities." [4]



"Against the background of these and similar images, the events of September 11 came as a response to these great injustices. Can you blame someone for protecting his own? Self-defense and punishing the oppressor in kind: is this shameful terrorism? Even if it is, we have no other option. This is the message that we have repeatedly tried to convey to you in words and deeds, years before September 11. You could see this, if you were so inclined, in the interview with Scott MacLeod in Time magazine in 1996, as well as the one with Peter Arnett on CNN in 1997, and with John Weiner in 1998. You could see it in the events in Nairobi, Tanzania, and Aden; you could see it in my interviews with Abdel Bari Atwan and with Robert Fisk, who is a fellow [Westerner] and a co-religionist of yours, but one whom I consider unbiased."



"Would those in the White House, and the TV channels who answer to those who claim to stand for freedom, dare to interview him [Fisk], so that he could explain to the American people everything he has learned from us about the reasons for our struggle? For if you could avoid perpetrating these injustices, you Americans would be on the right path towards the security you enjoyed before September 11. This is what I can say about war and its reasons."

WHEREAS, on July 26, 2006 "Peace, Propaganda and the Promised Land: Media & the Israel-Palestine Conflict", a documentary, was posted on Google, providing a striking comparison of U.S. and international media coverage of the crisis in the Middle East, zeroing in on how structural distortions in U.S. coverage have reinforced false perceptions of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, exposing how the foreign policy interests of American political elites--oil, and a need to have a secure military base in the region, among others--work in combination with Israeli public relations strategies to exercise a powerful influence over how news from the region is reported, and

WHEREAS, the Islamic jihad [the defensive war] against the United States of America is the underlying cause of America's "War on Terror", and

WHEREAS, America's "War on Terror" is the proximate cause of the Police State policies and programs now being implemented in America, and

WHEREAS, and the Police State in America is eroding the individual Rights, Freedoms, and Liberties of the American People, and

WHEREAS, it is undeniable that U.S. foreign aid to Israel is the result of the de facto wholesale adoption of the self-interests of the state of Israel over the constitutionally protected self-interests of the American People, and

WHEREAS, as reported by John Mearsheimer, Stephen Walt, Jimmy Carter and Osama bin Laden, United States foreign aid is being used to establish and further, by use of force, a minority Jewish religious belief system, it is being used to unlawfully imprison, impoverish and otherwise abuse large segments of the Palestinian population with its largely Muslim religious belief system, it is being used to attack other nations in the region that oppose Israel's occupation of Palestine and destruction of the Palestinian society, and it is being used to achieve questionable political ends that have resulted in injurious "blowback" upon the American populace -- including the attacks of 9-11 and the continuing diminution of our civil liberties. In essence, the aid and assistance of the United States is being used to deprive of our fellow human beings, both here and abroad, of their unalienable Rights as endowed by their Creator, and

WHEREAS, United States financial and military aid to Israel is not in America's national interest, nor is it serving the general Welfare of all Americans; it is, therefore, repugnant to Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution of the United States of America.


NOW THEREFORE:

WE THE PEOPLE, hereby petition the Government of the United States for a Redress of Grievances regarding the Government's infringement and deprivation of the Right of the People to a Government that does NOT violate Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution by laying and collecting taxes for an un-enumerated power -- interfering in the internal affairs of Israel by providing financial aid and military aid, and

WE THE PEOPLE, hereby petition the Government of the United States for a Redress of Grievances regarding the Government's infringement and deprivation of the Right of the People to a Government that does NOT violate Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution by laying and collecting taxes for activities that are not in America's national interest and that do not serve the general Welfare of Americans, and



WE THE PEOPLE, hereby petition the Government of the United States for a Redress of Grievances regarding the Government's infringement and deprivation of the Right of the People to a Government that does NOT violate Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution by laying and collecting taxes that knowingly finance despotic activities in foreign States that deprive the human beings in those States the same unalienable Rights of Life, Liberty and Happiness protected here by the Constitution, and


WE THE PEOPLE, demand that the President of the United States of America, each member of Congress' House of Representatives and each member of Congress' Senate honor their oaths of office to uphold the Constitution, by immediately suspending all financial and military aid to Israel, and


WE THE PEOPLE, demand that the President of the United States of America, each member of Congress' House of Representatives and each member of Congress' Senate honor their oaths of office to uphold the Constitution and respect the unalienable Rights of all human beings, by immediately withdrawing all our military forces from Iraq, Saudi Arabia and all other States in the Middle East.


NOTES:

[1] Here, bin Laden may be referring to the Sykes-Picot agreement of May 16, 1916, in which the Middle East was secretly divided up into British and French areas of control; and to the Balfour declaration of November 2, 1917, which outlined the British government's support for Zionist plans for a Jewish "national home" in Palestine.

[2] The February 26 2001 bombings included a large sortie of US and UK planes attacking sites near Baghdad; the raids were almost universally condemned.

[3] On June 6, 1982, Israel invaded Lebanon in Operation Peace for Galilee, under the direction of Defense Minister (now Prime Minister) Ariel Sharon. The stated aim of the invasion was to prevent Palestinian militia from firing rockets at civilian targets in Galilee (the first such attack for ten months had been provoked by an Israeli air raid on refugee camps and other PLO targets in Lebanon, killing 45 and wounding 150); its real aim was the destruction of the PLO. Israeli forces reached Beirut, where they encountered strong opposition from Palestinian militia; in the ensuing siege, nearly 20,000 people died, at least half of them civilians. Later that year, the Israeli military allowed Lebanese Christian Phalange militia to massacre Palestinians in the Sabra and Chatila refugee camps in Israeli occupied Beirut, which Israeli forces made no efforts to prevent. Between 3,000 and 3,500 people were killed, including women and children. In its investigation into the massacre, published in Spring 1983, the Israeli Kahan commission found the Defense Minister Ariel Sharon, later Prime Minister of Israel, bore "personal indirect responsibility," recommending that he be dismissed from his post, and concluding that he should never hold public office again. When it completed its withdrawal from South Lebanon on May 22, 2000, an estimated 10,000 had been killed and another 10,000 injured. US opposition to the Israeli invasion of Lebanon was muted at best; in the Arab world it was widely believed to have endorsed the invasion.




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posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 08:13 AM
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Originally posted by Fathom
ok, invade America...who is going to take the first swing at us???

thats right, sit back down no one has the guts to take the first shot so just shut up and continue your pathetic lives in your pathetic third world countries while we remain free to own guns and shoot them anytime we like.


Yes, you own guns...but you are so dumb that you don't realise that you can only use them on YOURSELVES! Enjoy your freedom.
Do most of you not travel because you can't take your guns with you to shoot anything you don't like

You are ignorant to call anyone not american "pathetic" and in a "third world" country. So stick your head back in the sand or swallow your pride and see the world you help destroy.

Ignorant, ignorant, ignorant!

And BTW... it's only mentalities like yours that think fights are solved with guns and bombs. The dollar bill cannot defend it'self with a gun, and that's what will be your downfall. And you WILL pay because you're told to.

While you're busy shouting "patriot" and buying more plastic rubbish and junk food to convince yourself of a false security, the real world goes on without you.

How would you fare in a traditional game of "fistycuffs"? And NO time-outs for the "hang on a minute, I'm not winning" americans.

Pathetic, and you wonder why you aren't seen as role-models or a leader by the rest of us. The proof is in the pudding.

Stop fighting and start accepting. It's called peace, you should try it.

I get so frustrated listening to your one sided points of view. How can you see truth from a single standpoint. How can you see the world from a single country? What are you afraid of?

Remember "Goliath"?



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 08:29 AM
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Originally posted by FiatLux
You know, I read the heading of this topic and it made me think, what is wrong with this world? I read almost 2/3rds of the threads and I had to stop. Yes, what our government is doing is not right, at all. Wars are not right, at all. So because our government is not right by making war, which is what you say, that means you want to make war on us then. So then, who would be right, and who would be wrong? If you do it your way by waging war on us, that doesn`t make you any better then our government.

I believe we all need to grow up and start learning to be a little more spiritual with our lives, instead of killing each other, learn to live together in peace and make ourselves and this world grow into what it needs to be.


Very well said...


At last, someone gets it! Welcome to Earth.

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I don't hate america, I just wish they'd be a better part of a better world.

All those bombs, guns, knives and small-minded attitudes and egos do you no favours! Please come visit but leave your weapons at the door.

Because I'm not american, do you assume I'm an enemy? Seems so unless I agree 100% with who you think you are. No-can-do. I'll make up my own mind thankyou, it's called "free-thinking". Try it.

The American people don't need to be attacked but saved from themselves.



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 08:43 AM
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Very well said...


At last, someone gets it! Welcome to Earth.

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I don't hate america, I just wish they'd be a better part of a better world.

All those bombs, guns, knives and small-minded attitudes and egos do you no favours! Please come visit but leave your weapons at the door.

Because I'm not american, do you assume I'm an enemy? Seems so unless I agree 100% with who you think you are. No-can-do. I'll make up my own mind thankyou, it's called "free-thinking". Try it.

The American people don't need to be attacked but saved from themselves.




What complete hog wash!

Wow, a better part of the world? Are saying we do nothing of value? Geez I can't even believe this one. We are the most giving nation in the world. And your very ability to ACT Freely is in PART owed to AMERICA. We've made payments for you to be able to have this ability.

Unless your from Switzerland (and even they do) I'm not sure you can really point the finger at us for having weapons as if you don't. Ours are just better. And based on this post it would seem that you think you have some kind of idea that you have a spiritual superiority over our nation. I must of missed the definition of ego. And if your American or not and you want to "ATTACK AMERICA NOW" You are AMERICAS ENEMY! So by defending this post are you saying ATTACK AMERICA NOW? Because I don't think anyone here said you (Whoever you are ) are the enemy, Did they?

We perfected "FREE THINKING". I think if you actually freed your mind you would understand what that means. How soon we forget.

Hey folks I agree with your sentiments that peace and love are what humanity needs. We should all just lay down our arms and give each other big warm hugs. No more suffering and strife. I guess John Lennon was an alright guy. But C'mon are you really serious that America came along and Voila there was evil in the world? That somehow if we were not a strong nation then peace would just envelope the world? Man, do you own any history books?

America engages in war because we want to maintain our freedoms. We kinda like it. For not only us but for the world. If you enjoy your freedoms then you must ask yourself how did I get them. What stands in the way of a North Korean from having the ability to live like a South Korean? America? Do you even know about these things? Because if you did you wouldn't think twice about defending your freedoms against those who want to impose their brand of oppression on you. Can you say Caliphate?

Saved from ourselves? And were arrogant?

We'll put down our weapons when our freedoms and liberty are assured. Until then, you first!

Will
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