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posted on Mar, 10 2004 @ 07:08 PM
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OK, Does anyone acually have proof of the aliens? DNA? a body? Something? please. thank you.

[Edited on 3-3-2004 by cudailikeman]




posted on Mar, 10 2004 @ 07:19 PM
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Originally posted by cudailikeman
Can anyone acually have proof of the aliens? DNA? a body? Something? please. thank you.


CAN or DOES? Someone CAN have physical proof, if they had any of the things you mentioned, but no one DOES. Your welcome.



posted on Mar, 10 2004 @ 09:05 PM
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There is only leaked photos. If I had any proof, it would be posted here for about 10 seconds. The post would disappear and so would I. So refresh every 9 seconds and you might find it.



posted on Mar, 10 2004 @ 09:17 PM
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Of course hard evidence has or exists or will exist, the problem being is that the government can make these things dissappear just like they can make one of us dissappear if they really want to.And it has always been like that.

[Edited on 10-3-2004 by jhova]



posted on Mar, 10 2004 @ 09:21 PM
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What ever happened to those bodies in Roswell and other supposed crash sites? and the actual ship? there had to have been some alien blood or something. i'm sure there's something out there that we don't know about.



posted on Mar, 10 2004 @ 10:35 PM
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Of course we have physical proof of aliens. Its just that 99.999% of all aliens and their crash debris is locked up in government facilities. The .001% that has escaped their grasp is harder to prove as extraterrestrial, but some is more worthy than other evidence. The Bob White object is especially good as its gone through multiple metallurigal analysis tests and it continues to prove itself as having percentages of elements not found on earth. There is also thousands of physical trace cases of UFO landings.

Some links of physical evidence, some with pictures.

Bob White's artifact. (nice pic on site and also includes links & pics of a similar object found decades earlier)

1974 Wales UFO crash (no picture, but story of object found)

1957 Ubatuba UFO fragments (pictures)

1950 UFO encounter with debris picture



posted on Mar, 10 2004 @ 10:37 PM
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Of course we have physical proof of aliens. Its just that 99.999% of all aliens and their crash debris is locked up in government facilities. The .001% that has escaped their grasp is harder to prove as extraterrestrial, but some is more worthy than other evidence. The Bob White object is especially good as its gone through multiple metallurigal analysis tests and it continues to prove itself as having percentages of elements not found on earth. There is also thousands of physical trace cases of UFO landings.

Some links of physical evidence, some with pictures.

Bob White's artifact. (nice pic on site and also includes links & pics of a similar object found decades earlier)

1974 Wales UFO crash (no picture, but story of object found)

1957 Ubatuba UFO fragments (pictures)

1950 UFO encounter with debris picture



posted on Mar, 10 2004 @ 10:49 PM
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Here's proof. In 1947, the US government clearly announced that they had recovered a flying saucer. Though it was later retracted, the deed was done.

More proof? How about truckloads of documents, pointing to a covert coverup program, including the names of those involved, the installations involved, dates, etc.

Even more? How about the fact that there is a law on the books detailing the penalties for a US citizen to speak with an extra-terrestrial. Obviously, someone felt there was a NEED for this???

We won't even go into the millions of eye witnesses, debris found that our scientists are still baffled on (some of which is even in the public domain), photos, videos, including military and NASA videos, etc. as it simply isn't necessary...



posted on Mar, 11 2004 @ 06:26 AM
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Originally posted by Gazrok
Here's proof. In 1947, the US government clearly announced that they had recovered a flying saucer. Though it was later retracted, the deed was done.

More proof? How about truckloads of documents, pointing to a covert coverup program, including the names of those involved, the installations involved, dates, etc.

Even more? How about the fact that there is a law on the books detailing the penalties for a US citizen to speak with an extra-terrestrial. Obviously, someone felt there was a NEED for this???

We won't even go into the millions of eye witnesses, debris found that our scientists are still baffled on (some of which is even in the public domain), photos, videos, including military and NASA videos, etc. as it simply isn't necessary...


But i am talking bodies and ships, like what heelstone mentioned.



posted on Mar, 11 2004 @ 06:33 AM
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There is so much information out there it's unreal. But the government has introduced false information into the mix, thus creating confusion as to which is real and which isn't. This, in turn, causes the majority of the public to discard the information as false. Not to mention the fact that all of the info is safeguarded, and is not available to the public. If there was anything that was rock solid, and on display for everyone to see, that would be a different story. But right now, as things are today, there is almost no way to tell what's real and what's not. Hope that helps.

Mr. M



posted on Mar, 11 2004 @ 06:38 AM
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Why ask a question then, that you already know the answer to?

It should be painfully obvious by now, that when such a retrieval occurs, the military intervenes, and does a press blackout, complete with coverstory, etc. The only way such proof will ever NOT be blacked out, is if it happens during a live broadcast, and even then, it would be covered up the next day, by issuing a statement that it was a prank, possibly even producing masks, mockups, etc. that resemble the actual craft.

They've had over half a century of experience in doing this, so they rarely slip up anymore... The good news is that they slipped up ALOT in the beginning.

If you think that ANYONE claiming to produce an alien body or spacecraft wouldn't be interrogated and made to either...

1. Denounce it
2. Simply not speak about it anymore
3. End up "missing"

then you're living in a dream world. Just ask Mac Brazel (or rather his descendants) about his shiny new pickup after discovering the Roswell debris, hehe....



posted on Mar, 11 2004 @ 06:49 AM
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Much as Gazrok has stated, witnesses to the Roswell crash debris have gone on record as saying they were threatened with their lives if they didn't keep quiet about it. They were told that their bones would be found out in the desert if they said anything about it again. Such threats would keep anybody silent for a long time. Time and again good witnesses to UFO events are threatened with their lives and their family's lives if they were to talk about what they have seen.

Press blackouts are commonplace as even the 2000 Illinois UFO sighting by very credible witnesses proves.

dbarkertv.com...

[Edited on 11-3-2004 by heelstone]



posted on Mar, 11 2004 @ 06:56 AM
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I totally agree. If something was to leak, it would be spontaneous, and then immediately covered up. That is how it has been in the past.

Mr. M


oba

posted on Mar, 11 2004 @ 06:58 AM
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if you read Col. P Corso's book,
you probably won't ask for proof anymore.

rather, you'll be thinking about adding peices of the puzzle.

cheers.



posted on Mar, 11 2004 @ 06:59 AM
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I personally was even more reinforced during the blackout (in my area) of the UFO CoverUp Live specials during the 80's.

Leading up to the show, there were news blurbs about public reaction (i.e. they had reporters in bars, etc. waiting to get peoples' reactions). They cut off the show about a half hour early, no warning, no announcement, and put on an infommercial. When the news came on, not a blip about it.

During the second show, they cut it off only a half hour into it, same method, same silence about it.....

A friend and I were on the phone during both, and I remember our outrage at it...


if you read Col. P Corso's book,
you probably won't ask for proof anymore.

rather, you'll be thinking about adding peices of the puzzle.

cheers.


Good book...The Day After Roswell. However, you do have to overlook Corso's tendency to exaggerate his own importance to the project....

[Edited on 11-3-2004 by Gazrok]



posted on Mar, 11 2004 @ 07:02 AM
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Originally posted by oba
if you read Col. P Corso's book,
you probably won't ask for proof anymore.

rather, you'll be thinking about adding peices of the puzzle.

cheers.


What is that book called? I've never heard of him before.


Mr. M



posted on Mar, 11 2004 @ 07:02 AM
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Sorry, I just realized that Gazrok mentioned it. Belay my last.

Mr. M


oba

posted on Mar, 11 2004 @ 07:17 AM
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here's a url for it -
search.barnesandnoble.com...



posted on Mar, 11 2004 @ 07:20 AM
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Thanks for the link. I would like to order this book and read it sometime.


Mr. M



posted on Mar, 11 2004 @ 07:21 AM
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Q: (L) Did a space craft of the Lizzies piloted by the Grays crash in Roswell?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) What caused the crash?
A: Ionization.
Q: (L) Were the bodies and the craft recovered by the United States Government?
A: Yes.
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Q: (L) In discussion of a purported crash of a space craft in Roswell, it was remarked that this crash was caused by
ionization. Could you be more specific?
A: That reference simply means the bouncing of what you call radar beams off of the ions existing in the atmosphere at
the time, caused electromagnetic disturbance which interfered the gravitational balancing system of that particular craft.
Q: (L) Why were the ions present at that time and not at other times?
A: The ions were charged at that time because of storm activity.
Q: (L) You said that there were bodies recovered by the government. How many bodies were recovered?
A: Three dead and one still in operation.
Q: (L) How long did the one live?
A: Remained in operation for approximately 3 and a half years. It was a robotic biogenetic being rather than a soul
encompassing physical existence.
Q: (L) Did the government know that it was a robotic being?
A: No.
Q: (L) Do they still think it was a living being?
A: The government is not one individual. Some are now aware that these are biogenetic engineered beings.
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Q: (L) Shifting gears back to the alien autopsy: can you access the information and indicate whether this hybrid being
was one that was obtained from a crash that occurred at Roswell, New Mexico in 1947?
A: The crash did not occur at Roswell. It was in a desert area, approximately 157 miles to the West by NorthWest, of
the Roswell location. The Roswell location that you are familiar with it, did not include either a craft or any bodies or
living beings. It was merely a debris field. The actual crash occurred some distance away. The crash site, a desert
location, closer to Los Alamos, Mexico, and there, the craft, which had malfunctioned over Roswell, thus leaving behind
the debris field, had, in fact crashed. This is where the bodies and living beings were recovered along with what was
remaining of the craft. And, yes, the being in the film you have seen DID come from there.
Q: (L) How many beings were on that craft?
A: Four.
Q: (L) Were they all hybrids?
A: Correct. It also may be noted, and you can check this with the official record as has been interpreted by those in your
environment who have studied the subject, this was a specialized mission which was initiated by those referred to as the
Lizard Beings using human/hybrid combinations, the hybrid element being that referred to as the Gray type, it was an
experiment partly as what could be interpreted or translated to mean a reconnaissance mission, and partly testing the
environmental conditions that existed in that area at the time as a result of the nuclear explosions that had occurred in the
region in the recent past, as measured from that particular point in time. The effort was to determine effects on both the
living Gray species and of, course, the Reptilian or Lizard species, as they have a similar genetic make-up in some ways
that we will not get into just now. But, the idea was to test the effects upon both the human genes, or genetic structure,
and the Gray genetic structure which, in turn, is connected the Lizard genetic structure if you understand the concept.
That was one objective. Another objective, of course, was basic reconnaissance.
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Q: (L) We're back. I want to talk about the Roswell video that we've all watched. Now TR continues to insist that it was
not Roswell, that there's something... He just can't get into it. I would like to know if that video is of alien beings that
were retrieved from the crash of Roswell.
A: Yes.
Q: (L) OK. Why did so many people report seeing aliens that had only four fingers and [toes], you know, like the
standard greys?
A: Multiple subjects.
A: OK, so there were more than one alien on that one craft?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) OK, the story that came from the camera man who shot the video was that there were these four beings. One
was dead, and three were standing outside the craft, crying and clutching boxes to their chests. Is this an accurate...
A: Yes.
Q: (L) What were those boxes?
A: Storage of translation matrix group to individual, emotion stabilization units.
Q: (L) What is a translation Matrix?
A: Translates foreign thought patterns, not needed except in emergency loss of electromagnetic grid wave.
Q: (L) OK, what is an emotion stabilization unit used for?
A: Variety of uses, mostly for survival by neutralizing thoughts of harm by emotionally charged beings, not accustomed to
shocking turn of events.
Q: (L) Were the harmful thought that they were designed to neutralize, thoughts of other beings?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Well, they didn't work very well, did they?
A: Did not have chance to activate.
Q: (L) OK, so if they had had the opportunity to activate these boxes, they would have been more or less able to
extricate themselves from this unpleasant situation?
A: Not extricate, lessen negative aspects.
Q: (L) OK, how many beings were in this particular craft that crashed?
A: 21.
Q: (L) How come the reports say there were only four?
A: Reports are suppressed and fragmented, as far fewer individuals witnessed interior of craft!!
Q: (L) OK, was this two crafts striking each other, or was it one craft malfunctioning?
A: Two.
Q: (L) OK, it was two craft hitting each other? Is that correct?
A: No.
Q: (L) There were two complete craft that came down?
A: Bouncing off ionized waves between two craft traveling in tandem.
Q: (L) OK, was one of these craft totally destroyed?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And all the beings in the one that was totally destroyed were incinerated, or blown to bits, is that correct?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Did some of them eject?
A: 4th density.
Q: (L) OK, they knew it was coming and they went into 4th density?
A: No.
Q: (L) They were 4th density beings, and therefore when they blew to bits, they disappeared, is that it?
A: Close.
Q: (L) OK, now of the 21 that were in the craft that was captured, so to speak, there were four outside the craft when it
was approached, is that correct?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Then that would mean that there were 17 inside... Of these 21 beings, how many were greys, the standard grey
lizzie-probe type being?
A: Most.
Q: (L) Were there other kinds of beings in there?
A: Human.
Q: (L) There was one human in there also?
A: 5.
Q: (L) There were 5 humans inside, so we have... (LM) Why? (L) Why were those humans in the craft?
A: Retrieval and study specimens, two big foot types.
Q: (L) Does that mean that the humans that they had in there were retrieval and study specimens, or otherwise known as
abductees?
A: Deceased.
Q: (L) Oh, they were dead humans. Wonderful. Did they abduct them dead? Or did they abduct them alive?
A: No.
Q: (L) Did they abduct them alive and then kill them?
A: No.
Q: (L) Were they dead as a result of the crash?
A: No.
Q: (L) Well, then, what's the story here, I mean, what other choices do I have?
A: Retrieved.
Q: (L) Ohh, these were beings that had been retrieved at death and remolecularized? Is that what you are referring to,
what we discussed before?
A: 3rd density.
Q: (L) Were they remolecularized in third density? Is that what you are saying?
A: Retrieved in 3rd density.
Q: (L) OK, tell me once again what it means for a being, a human to be retrieved.
A: Picked up after expiration.
Q: (L) OK, so they picked up dead bodies, is that it?
A: Yes.
Q: (LM) Why? (L) To study them. OK, did they plan to reanimate these corpses?
A: Open.
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