Why it doesn't matter if the public THINKS it's ready for disclosure, page 1
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Topic started on 19-7-2008 @ 12:48 AM by Jeremy_Vaeni
I just interviewed New Realities host, Alan Steinfeld, for next week's Culture of Contact podcast. More of a series of arguments than an interview, but in any event, one thing he said that I am in total agreement with that I've not heard anyone else yet say is this:

It does not matter if you think alien disclosure would be "no big deal" because you've seen a bunch of movies and specials about UFOs and aliens and think you've got it under control. The lesson of the 9/11 attacks is that no matter how many movies we watch where buildings go BOOM, when it's real it has a devastating effect on the psyche.

Ditto that for anyone who says, "I wish I were abducted." No you don't. You only think you can handle it because when it's "out there" as an idea, a special effects movie with a beginning, middle, and end, that isn't real, you can. You can handle fiction. Don't confuse that with reality, because when you are confronted by real beings who really walk through walls and really take you somewhere else and everything you know as "grounded reality" has left you--you do NOT want that. That is the last thing you want.

Now bring on the bile from the "alien abductions aren't real, none of this is real" posters. Stop in your tracks, that's not the point. The point is, you better believe disclosure--real disclosure--would completely devastate us no matter how many polls show false contrarian bravery.

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reply posted on 19-7-2008 @ 10:20 AM by applebiter
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A contact experience could kill you right away with a heart attack. It could kill you more slowly with stress, if you can't cope with it. It could overwhelm your judgment and you could be driven to suicide over some delusion or another.

Relatives and friends of people who died from alien exposure would likely be pissed and scared. Either their friend/relative had gone crazy because the government allowed the truth to come out, or because the government was making it up. How many people will cling to that one? It might be scary to imagine your government lying to you about alien contact, but for some it would be far preferable to believe this than the truth.

This subject is deadly serious, no matter how you look at it.


reply posted on 19-7-2008 @ 11:25 PM by plumranch
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I disagree with the premise.

More than 50% of the American people think we have been lied to about what happened at Roswell in '47 and the percentage is going up all the time because of demographics and the internet getting the word out.

Are we handling it ok? Well, yeh. Heard of any suicides because people can't handle the thought? The thought that there are superior beings flying around.\? Hasn't mankind always believed in superior beings? Now we call them Greys or Pleadians, we used to call them gods or angels.

I hope I don't see any aliens tonight in my bedroom because I probably couldn't handle that very well. Who could without a big adrenalin rush? But the thought that they are here and always have been is not a biggie.

The reason that the governments don't just come out and admit what is going on is more that they think we are not supposed to know for sure for whatever silly reason.

Seeing an interviewing with GW and an ET would get the news for a week then we would be back to agrueing about Iraque or the oil chrisis.



reply posted on 20-7-2008 @ 12:07 AM by applebiter
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It is my understanding that being in the presence of an ET involves more than a shock over its appearance. Sgt. Clifford Stone said some things in the Project Camelot interview that gave me pause. You know how a professional poker player has that skill of reading micro-expressions, or "tells"? Apparently, ET is able to read you inside and out. What if ET is able to see things inside you that you have kept hidden from yourself? What if it all comes bubbling up to the surface when you are in its presence? For some, this would be ok. For others...


reply posted on 21-7-2008 @ 08:27 AM by Jeremy_Vaeni
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Sorry but no, we've not moved on unscathed. This whole country has not moved on unscathed. The Bush crimes of the last 8 years happened because of our shell shock. Most Americans believe that 9/11 "changed everything" because we had to wake up out of isolation and, for a minute, arrogance. (Of course the arrogance snapped right back into place.)


reply posted on 21-7-2008 @ 08:33 AM by Jeremy_Vaeni
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I don't think life would go on as normal if we saw Bush shake hands with an alien. Of course few have a problem with Roswell being a crash because right now it's still an idea. it's still a fiction in the mind of the person saying "I'd have no problem if Roswell was an alien crash. It would be different if we actually knew that had happened and then suddenly there were mass landings.

I'm sure there are plenty of people who think that if Jason from "Friday The 13th" were real, they'd just kick the crap out of him and run or somehow be smart enough to escape.

We always have the choice to be fearless in our imagination.
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