God has no religion, so why would He want us to have one?

reply to post by whaaa


No, not if your idea is glowing mists and bright lights and pretty colors.
Why humanize God.
And while we are at it, humans are equal spiritually to any other animal or plant.
And when we die, we go to dust, never to return or be remembered.

[edit on 20-7-2008 by jmdewey60]

Originally posted by Excitable_Boy
God of the bible? There is one God. One. I am talking about God. God. God of the universe

He is part of no religion. He has been made part of religions by man, not by His choice. His choice would be to have no religion as He has none.

that is your own particular belief, your own "religion" regarding god.

to have no religion is to have no belief.

This is utter nonsense. I have no religion and I have a ton of faith. Therefore, I most certainly have beliefs. They are my beliefs. You need to learn not to confuse religion with faith. Two completely separate things Miriam.

People like you can't stand it if someone has their own beliefs outside of religion. It scares the crap out of you. Why?

why would it scare the crap out of me? i just dont agree. in my opinion, religion is a set of beliefs, and then someone would have faith in that belief. you (like I) may not belong to an organization, but that doesnt mean there isnt religion

why is religion such a bad word to you?

I am simply NOT mixing up anything Miriam. It is all quite clear to me and as a result, I sleep quite well at night and do not fear death. God is with me and always will be. I have serenity and all the thumpers here and everywhere can't stand that and that is sad.

what does this have to do with sleeping at night?

People like me make you question your faith which isn't faith it is blind obedience to a religion. BIG DIFFERENCE Miriam!!

you dont make me question anything. all you like to do is post assumptions of things you feel are evident, but arent for everyone else. you trump it around like truth in your usual condescending manner when the fact is you dont know anything.

you think i place blind obedience to a religion? tell me which one? and then tell me what im blind to since you are so much better at seeing.

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Let me dumb it down for you Miriam. A Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!!! It's hard to give a crap what someone says when they say that isn't that right Miriam?

This is for you and your high horse Miriam:

Is it hard to get that horse into the front doors of whatever church you attend Miriam?

It's funny, I can see writing when you post, but all I keep reading is "Blah blah blah blah......"



[edit on 20-7-2008 by Excitable_Boy]

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mmmm, I get what you are saing Excitable, I just dont understand what JersusIsTruth was saying at the start of the thread - he/she needs to explain a little better.

I dont believe God made religion... we made that, but God made church and church is just believers getting together to talk about God and worship him together.
I think its cool how people have formed different groups based on their interpretation of what God has said... just as long as the focus remains right.
So many times people focus in on their religion and even though they might be teaching a great message they heart would be in the wrong place. It happens so often in church, people focus not on God but on their area of ministry (doesnt matter what denomination, it happens in all).

In all honesty I dont think it matters much if we wanna have religion or not we just need to keep a God focus happening and we need to keep reading and memorising the word.

reply to post by JesusisTruth

to me the other is true, that God founded a church and a religion and revealedhimself through over 4,000 years of saints since the world began and taught us hw to live and was accompanied by miracles.

I've been meaning to comment on this. God founded a church? Really? Which one? I am fascinated! Fascinated because the answer will be a fabrication.

4,000 years since the world began is even more fascinating nut something for another post. My suggestion would be to say no to the Kool-Aid!!

Too late to edit my other posts.
I found this nice little picture and I thought it could illustrate the point I was making, before.

Kind of the way we should feel about Jesus, every day.

[edit on 21-7-2008 by jmdewey60]

jm dewey....as they say, "whatever blows your dress up."

I can paint a picture of someone licking the butt of the supposed devil, does that mean we should all do that?



[edit on 21-7-2008 by Excitable_Boy]

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I think you missed the point of those images. They are images of people worshiping Jesus, and giving him all their attention and love. They are an example of how we should think of Jesus and how we should view him. I also think those images just might be there to illistrate a certain bible story we all know so very well and its about bringing that to life :p.

We were talking about God. What does Jesus have to do with it? Jesus is a religion. God is the real deal.

reply to post by Excitable_Boy


People may have made a religion from Jesus, true, but more importantly, Jesus brought the word of God to man, in a more complete way.
Jesus was given all authority, on earth, of God himself.
Jesus coming into Jerusalem, as its king, was the one opportunity for humans to give something close to what God bestowed on his son.
Jesus represented God, so the praise given to Jesus was indirectly, praise to God.
The Hosannas are blessings to God for being merciful and giving to us what we need.


[edit on 21-7-2008 by jmdewey60]

reply to post by jmdewey60


mmmm, Jesus is Gods son. He bridged the gap between us and God and because God sent him down we are no longer seperated from God as humans once were. Hence the reason for the temple curtain tearing after Jesus died on the cross - this symbolised how anyone could have access to God and talk to him.

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Jesus taught his disciples the "Our Father" and that was before he was crucified.
Something happened at the moment that Jesus died that is directly connected to the significance of the curtain.
What I was taught about it is that it was type meeting anti-type.
The Temple signified and predicted Christ.
Everything the Temple symbolized was fulfilled when Jesus died.
Hebrews says Jesus entered through the veil, in our behalf.
So, you can find three different ways of seeing a barrier being broken down between God and man, in this story of the rent veil.
Despite all that, I believe Christ still stands as intermediary between us and God.
We are still sinful, despite Jesus having died for our sins.
Our standing before God is established on the fact of this and not on our own merits.


[edit on 22-7-2008 by jmdewey60]

reply to post by jmdewey60


Thats a pretty cool way of thinking about it all hey. I just had a thought..... Theres God and then theres us, and Jesus is like a filter between us and God. Even though we sin and do wrong, becasue of what Jesus did for us God decides not to judge us for our sins.
I guess thats a pretty simple way of looking at it, but it makes a lot of sence to me.

The picture I posted above, in my previous post, may not be what is going on, literally, because it mixes the two things (heavenly and earthly) together.
What John saw in vision, was Jesus among the seven lamps, representing the churches.
This is something that I think was "present time" in revelation, not something in the past or future.

Sorry about my having fun with pictures but I feel kind of tired with the drab look I see when reading this forum.

reply to post by jmdewey60


Na, the pics are fine, they are really nice to look at among all the grey and black thats here a lot of the time,

alright.... im off to bed, cyas tomorrow

reply to post by jmdewey60


Who's the guy in the crown? Did he just think his margarine was butter? Is it the Burger King? Who is that supposed to be? If that is supposed to be God, then I have to LMAO!

reply to post by Excitable_Boy


That is the risen Christ (notice the nail holes in the hands) in the role of the High Priest, serving in the Heavenly Temple.

reply to post by jmdewey60

That is the risen Christ (notice the nail holes in the hands) in the role of the High Priest, serving in the Heavenly Temple.

A HA HA HA HA! That is GOOD! So Christ wore a crown, like a king? Oh my God....talk about worshipping false gods. A gold crown and jewel encrusted chest plate for Jesus or is that a Whitman Sampler? A HA HA HA HA!!!

I needed a good laugh this morning.....



[edit on 23-7-2008 by Excitable_Boy]

reply to post by Excitable_Boy


Its an artists interpretation. Dont get so excited..... its not like people worship that image so its not like people are worshiping a false god.

How come you seem to have such a problem with Jesus?

reply to post by Excitable_Boy


It's not a crown.
He is dressed as a high priest, according to Exodus.
Adornment of High Priests