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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 07:26 PM by Anonymous ATS
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I am aware that many of this type of container was purchased during Desert Storm. There was a great fear that with Sadam in power there was a strong
chance of dirty bombs, etc. The DOD purchased large amounts of body bags as well. My question to you is how long have these been sitting in this
area? They may well be left overs from Daddy Bush.
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reply posted on 24-7-2008 @ 12:02 AM by BlasteR
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That is an excellent point and was also what I pointed out in 2 of my posts. Disease is one thing, and if we eventually are the victims of a
biological or chemical attack then burning the bodies/cremating will properly dispose of any biological or chemical agent. With radiation it is a
little different. And even if these vaults were somehow used to haul people en mass, they are plastic and are going to contaminate everything around
them anyway.
Entombment in concrete has been fairly effective in the past and a thick concrete wall will sheild the radiation at least to an acceptable degree (a
great example of this is Chernobyl). But there are some myths about radiation that people don't understand here. I was trained throughly in
biological, chemical, and nuclear attacks in the Air Force so I know more than the average joe on these subjects.
www.bt.cdc.gov...
How Radioactive Contamination Is Spread
People who are externally contaminated with radioactive material can contaminate other people or surfaces that they touch. For example, people who
have radioactive dust on their clothing may spread the radioactive dust when they sit in chairs or hug other people.
People who are internally contaminated can expose people near them to radiation from the radioactive material inside their bodies. The body fluids
(blood, sweat, urine) of an internally contaminated person can contain radioactive materials. Coming in contact with these body fluids can result in
contamination and/or exposure.
However people who have been exposed to radiation are not exactly going to spread it to other people. It depends on alot of different factors. If
people are exposed to radiation to the extent that they are able to spread it to other people through their body fluids, etc.. (such as after a
nuclear attack) then obviously the body would have to be properly disposed of and contained in some fashion.
a thin layer of plastic would not exactly be the most cost-effective or efficient way to achieve this.. and since NO polypropylene burial vault will
ever ensure a permanent seal or cave-ins then eventually the contamination is going to inevitably spread into the soil. The moisture that collects
inside this vault would eventually seep right back into the surrounding soil and possibly even into the groundwater.
Therefore, using such burial vaults for the application of radiocative containment of contaminated bodies is preposterous.. There is no way that ANY
plastic vault is going to stay sealed long enough for the radioactivity to deteriorate through it's half-life. And any contamination inside that
vault is then going to become another huge environmental catastrophy waiting to happen.
-ChriS
This is not containment..
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reply posted on 24-7-2008 @ 12:37 AM by Anonymous ATS
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They Wouldnt be Using These For Radiation. Try Avain Bird Flu. It Would Work To Detain and Bury The Deceased
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reply posted on 24-7-2008 @ 07:51 AM by Anonymous ATS
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i saw the same pictures as these in the 80's. no big deal, they aren't coffins
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reply posted on 24-7-2008 @ 08:43 AM by Bombeni
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With all the govt. screw ups in the last several years, at least they are trying to prepare for the possibilities. The govt. doesn't have an agenda
for those vaults, they don't know something we don't know. They will probably sit there for 100 years imo.
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reply posted on 25-7-2008 @ 01:15 PM by musselwhite
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From the 'people' who brought you the response to Hurricane Katrina (blown levees): US military begins planning for avian flu pandemic 10
May 2007 The US military has begun to plan for a possible avian flu pandemic that could kill as many as three million people in the United States in
as little as six weeks, a Pentagon planning document said. The Defense Department's "Implementation Plan for Pandemic Influenza," which was posted
Wednesday on a Pentagon website, lays out guidelines and planning assumptions for US military services and combatant commands. Possible scenarios
include US troops being called in to put down riots, guard pharmaceutical plants and shipments, and help restrict the movement of people inside the
country and across its borders. "When directed by the president, DoD will provide support to civil authorities in the event of a civil disturbance,"
the document said. "DoD will augment civilian law enforcement efforts to restore and maintain order in accordance with existing statutes." The
military also may assist civil authorities in "isolating and/or quarantining groups of people in order to minimize [foment] the spread of disease
during an influenza pandemic," it said. [Bye bye, Posse Comitatus! And suddenly, the US is going to control its borders? Gag me with a chainsaw! This
newfound 'border control' ability is to keep people from *leaving* the US. KBR's $385M detention center contract will be expanded and
renewed.] www.legitgov.org...
This investment in Georgia’s military installations is very good news for Georgia,” Isakson said. “Our facilities play a key role in the
security of our nation, and I am very pleased to see such a strong commitment to them from Washington.”The bill provides $6.5 billion in total
military construction funding, $5.4 billion for active duty construction and $1.1 billion for the reserve components, as well as $3.99 billion for
family housing construction and improvements which includes $1.98 billion for operation and maintenance for existing units. Also included is $5.4
billion for implementation of Base Realignment and Closure (BRAC) which includes $5.2 billion for 2005 implementation and $191.2 million for prior
BRAC rounds. isakson.senate.gov...
yes, i would agree about the bird flu or something similiar. water, i keep thinking water or nuke. nuke is not my first choice but it definitely has
something to do w/georgia.
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reply posted on 26-7-2008 @ 09:26 PM by Vikki
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We live in Dallas Georgia, we are going here in the morning. We are taking pictures and gonna check this place out.
Will post pics and let everyone know what we find here. This is a 150 + mile trip and with gas costs, I tend to make it worth my wild!
Will post tomorrow eveing with my adventure.
I find this my most enteresting thing to date.
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reply posted on 26-7-2008 @ 09:38 PM by alienj
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OMG why are plastic coffins getting so much attention. if they had bodies in them that would make it an attention grabber. It makes perfect logical
sense to have them on standby when your country is in the middle of a war and when your country is one of the biggest relief aid goverments in the
world. What doesnt make sense is everyone thinking there is some underlying conspiracy to this,,, hey when all you guys go out there to check it out,
why dont you have a party get drunk and then see if you can fit in one of those coffins...be sure and close the lid when you do. Now that might be a
story
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reply posted on 27-7-2008 @ 09:43 AM by musselwhite
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i totally agree w/you on the the team work that went into the FEMA Coffins in Georgia thread. excellent, excellent work! read first on ATS and came
back full circle!
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reply posted on 27-7-2008 @ 03:50 PM by Vikki
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We just got back and to say the least it was really something to see in person. Long drive over 200 miles from home sigh.
We found the exact same thing that was shown in the video. I took pictures but they will be nothing new except I noticed a whole bunch of dumpsters
beside these. Took pics of those too.
When we were done looking and taking pics, we went up the road a little bit to a super walmart. We wanted to ask some locals if they had any knowledge
of these containers.
The walmart employee had no idea they was there. A older man and lady came out and we asked them and he said this:
Those are casket liners. They been there for a little over 10 years. The government got into a riff over taxes on the liners and they just put them
there and never came back for them.
That is what he told us.
This place is 2 miles from the interstate. 58 miles east of Atlanta on interstate 20 and in a very very rural area. We also went up the road a few
miles to 2 different flea markets and we asked some folks about them only one older man knew of them but had no clue what they was or why they was
there. A few old women did not know anything about them.
I do not think there is a half million of them. But they are stacked 20 high or atleast the one i counted on the end. It is a massive amount but not
500,000 i do not think.
I got the answers i went looking for though. The casket liners are not privately owned but owned by the government. That is what i went after to find
out. That is what I got.
Editing to add: they are made of fiberglass. My husband really checked them out good. The railroad tracks does not seem to used because of so much
growth within them in this area. However I did not see rust on the tracks though where I was looking in the area.
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reply posted on 28-7-2008 @ 11:18 AM by BlackMumba
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I telephoned Vantage Products today, (Polyguard's competitors- 32 min drive away from the Madison Vaults)
The receptionist at Vantage was nice as pie to me until I asked her if Vantage stored any other vaults in the area apart form Covington.
on hearing this she was edgy and non responsive and said in a very formal voice "You an leave a message on this persons machine"
She would not talk to me about this at all.
Anyone else wanna stab at it?
Phone number is: 770-788-0136
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reply posted on 28-7-2008 @ 05:59 PM by BlackMumba
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Please read this:!
Madison
Madison GA could Hercules , Monsanto , polyguard all be connected?
I say yes! these coffins are owned by the government
Don't forget the CDC is also situated in lovely GA
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reply posted on 28-7-2008 @ 09:19 PM by Vikki
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I personally went to the sight. I would say about 10,000 liners. I googled the image and tried to count them all. Couldn't do it with what i had to
work with. My best estimate was 9600.
I think there are atleast 40 to 50 thousand liners. I would say more, but the inside of this had the lids.
I go off on the photo from google. I counted them in real life and then I tried to place the photo. I think this is a dump site. I even went a bit
further, I wanted the land owners names, no one spoke of them or they did not know of em.
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reply posted on 29-7-2008 @ 12:10 AM by SpartanKingLeonidas
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Okay, while I see those could be coffins, there's just as much evidence that they could be cow feeding troughs, or even weapons containers returned
from Iraq empty of their weapons thereby utilizing the recycle method.
I'm not saying they're not coffins, but there's nothing in the video to show proof of that, and with the guy who filmed it not reciting where he
was, what area it's around, and having watched the video and not seeing any writing on them, it's only half convincing of what the source says it is
to begin with.
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reply posted on 30-7-2008 @ 02:51 AM by BlasteR
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But even if they are for some nuke or chemical/biological attack it makes absolutely no sense why they would use these burial vaults of all things..
Please see my last post.
-ChriS
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reply posted on 30-7-2008 @ 02:51 AM by BlasteR
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But even if they are for some nuke or chemical/biological attack it makes absolutely no sense why they would use these burial vaults of all things..
Please see my last post.
-ChriS
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reply posted on 30-7-2008 @ 06:15 PM by Vikki
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The Salmon City Council has voted in support of an ordinance prohibiting the use of polypropylene vaults at the cemetery.
Click here for news source
This is the same material being used to create these casket liners in Madison Ga and Covington Ga.
I thought this would also add to this thread.
I also found on google atleast 100,000 more as a plant in Covington.
you can look it up on google earth, here is the infomation:
960 Almon Road
30014
Covington Georgia
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reply posted on 23-8-2008 @ 04:56 PM by rjmelter
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There are only 50,000 Coffins in Madison Ga, the person who owns the land is renting it to XXXXXXXXX. That person stores it there for a company and
they premade these for people who have bought and or purchases there burial plot. They made them in mass production because of the molds they used to
cast the PLASTIC.
Oh and they are burial vaults not coffins. THEY PROTECT THE COFFINS from getting dirty... collapsing with lots and lots of pressure (only 6 feet
under).
Consider this Debunked
The Madisonian (local newpaper) published this conspiarcy theory in their newspaper within 2 months time. AboveTopSecret is famous now... in Madison
Ga
They however are not concerned I should have mentioned ealier... Madison is a dying community. All the land is used for pasteur... id madison city
limits they cant do that so its used for storage...
DEBUNKIFIED!
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reply posted on 31-8-2008 @ 08:17 PM by Anonymous ATS
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You are correct a large stock of vaults. These plastic or "poly" vaults are used to prtect the casket and more importantly the grave from
collapsing.
This company makes and stores these for cemeteries. The keep so many on hand or realy in storge for trusting laws required by states.
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