A Half a Million Plastic Coffins?!, page 9

reply to post by sp00n1

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I am aware that many of this type of container was purchased during Desert Storm. There was a great fear that with Sadam in power there was a strong chance of dirty bombs, etc. The DOD purchased large amounts of body bags as well. My question to you is how long have these been sitting in this area? They may well be left overs from Daddy Bush.

reply to post by rjmelter

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That is an excellent point and was also what I pointed out in 2 of my posts. Disease is one thing, and if we eventually are the victims of a biological or chemical attack then burning the bodies/cremating will properly dispose of any biological or chemical agent. With radiation it is a little different. And even if these vaults were somehow used to haul people en mass, they are plastic and are going to contaminate everything around them anyway.

Entombment in concrete has been fairly effective in the past and a thick concrete wall will sheild the radiation at least to an acceptable degree (a great example of this is Chernobyl). But there are some myths about radiation that people don't understand here. I was trained throughly in biological, chemical, and nuclear attacks in the Air Force so I know more than the average joe on these subjects.

www.bt.cdc.gov...

How Radioactive Contamination Is Spread
People who are externally contaminated with radioactive material can contaminate other people or surfaces that they touch. For example, people who have radioactive dust on their clothing may spread the radioactive dust when they sit in chairs or hug other people.

People who are internally contaminated can expose people near them to radiation from the radioactive material inside their bodies. The body fluids (blood, sweat, urine) of an internally contaminated person can contain radioactive materials. Coming in contact with these body fluids can result in contamination and/or exposure.

However people who have been exposed to radiation are not exactly going to spread it to other people. It depends on alot of different factors. If people are exposed to radiation to the extent that they are able to spread it to other people through their body fluids, etc.. (such as after a nuclear attack) then obviously the body would have to be properly disposed of and contained in some fashion.

a thin layer of plastic would not exactly be the most cost-effective or efficient way to achieve this.. and since NO polypropylene burial vault will ever ensure a permanent seal or cave-ins then eventually the contamination is going to inevitably spread into the soil. The moisture that collects inside this vault would eventually seep right back into the surrounding soil and possibly even into the groundwater.

Therefore, using such burial vaults for the application of radiocative containment of contaminated bodies is preposterous.. There is no way that ANY plastic vault is going to stay sealed long enough for the radioactivity to deteriorate through it's half-life. And any contamination inside that vault is then going to become another huge environmental catastrophy waiting to happen.

-ChriS

This is not containment..

[edit on 24-7-2008 by BlasteR]

reply to post by Anonymous ATS

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From the 'people' who brought you the response to Hurricane Katrina (blown levees): US military begins planning for avian flu pandemic 10 May 2007 The US military has begun to plan for a possible avian flu pandemic that could kill as many as three million people in the United States in as little as six weeks, a Pentagon planning document said. The Defense Department's "Implementation Plan for Pandemic Influenza," which was posted Wednesday on a Pentagon website, lays out guidelines and planning assumptions for US military services and combatant commands. Possible scenarios include US troops being called in to put down riots, guard pharmaceutical plants and shipments, and help restrict the movement of people inside the country and across its borders. "When directed by the president, DoD will provide support to civil authorities in the event of a civil disturbance," the document said. "DoD will augment civilian law enforcement efforts to restore and maintain order in accordance with existing statutes." The military also may assist civil authorities in "isolating and/or quarantining groups of people in order to minimize [foment] the spread of disease during an influenza pandemic," it said. [Bye bye, Posse Comitatus! And suddenly, the US is going to control its borders? Gag me with a chainsaw! This newfound 'border control' ability is to keep people from *leaving* the US. KBR's $385M detention center contract will be expanded and renewed.]

www.legitgov.org...

This investment in Georgia’s military installations is very good news for Georgia,” Isakson said. “Our facilities play a key role in the security of our nation, and I am very pleased to see such a strong commitment to them from Washington.”The bill provides $6.5 billion in total military construction funding, $5.4 billion for active duty construction and $1.1 billion for the reserve components, as well as $3.99 billion for family housing construction and improvements which includes $1.98 billion for operation and maintenance for existing units. Also included is $5.4 billion for implementation of Base Realignment and Closure (BRAC) which includes $5.2 billion for 2005 implementation and $191.2 million for prior BRAC rounds.

isakson.senate.gov...

yes, i would agree about the bird flu or something similiar. water, i keep thinking water or nuke. nuke is not my first choice but it definitely has something to do w/georgia.

reply to post by MrWendal

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i totally agree w/you on the the team work that went into the FEMA Coffins in Georgia thread. excellent, excellent work! read first on ATS and came back full circle!

Please read this:!

Madison


Madison GA could Hercules , Monsanto , polyguard all be connected?

I say yes! these coffins are owned by the government

Don't forget the CDC is also situated in lovely GA

reply to post by sp00n1

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Okay, while I see those could be coffins, there's just as much evidence that they could be cow feeding troughs, or even weapons containers returned from Iraq empty of their weapons thereby utilizing the recycle method.

I'm not saying they're not coffins, but there's nothing in the video to show proof of that, and with the guy who filmed it not reciting where he was, what area it's around, and having watched the video and not seeing any writing on them, it's only half convincing of what the source says it is to begin with.

[edit on 29-7-2008 by SpartanKingLeonidas]

reply to post by musselwhite

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But even if they are for some nuke or chemical/biological attack it makes absolutely no sense why they would use these burial vaults of all things.. Please see my last post.

-ChriS

reply to post by musselwhite

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But even if they are for some nuke or chemical/biological attack it makes absolutely no sense why they would use these burial vaults of all things.. Please see my last post.

-ChriS

The Salmon City Council has voted in support of an ordinance prohibiting the use of polypropylene vaults at the cemetery.

Click here for news source

This is the same material being used to create these casket liners in Madison Ga and Covington Ga.

I thought this would also add to this thread.

I also found on google atleast 100,000 more as a plant in Covington.

you can look it up on google earth, here is the infomation:

960 Almon Road
30014
Covington Georgia

reply to post by MurderCityDevil

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You are correct a large stock of vaults. These plastic or "poly" vaults are used to prtect the casket and more importantly the grave from collapsing.

This company makes and stores these for cemeteries. The keep so many on hand or realy in storge for trusting laws required by states.

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