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reply posted on 18-7-2008 @ 04:26 PM by mdagwd
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You know, OP, I did exactly what you're doing here several years ago, standing under a bridge, screaming at the top of my lungs that I don't belong
here, that I don't want to be here, that I never agreed to this...
Well that was years ago, and tings do change. I don't want to tell you what to do, or what not to do, and I won't pretend to know you.
I will however, quote you one of my favorite songs:
We barely remember who or what came before this precious moment,
We are Choosing to be here right now. Hold on, stay inside...
This holy reality, this holy experience. Choosing to be here in...
This body. This body holding me. Be my reminder here that I am not alone in
This body, this body holding me, feeling eternal all this pain is an illusion.
Know it? Parabola by TOOL.
That's what I think about me. You know better than anyone what you think about you.
And after typing these almost 1000 characters, I just mean to tell you that you are not alone. You never will be. Everything is out there for those
who have eyes to see. Reasons, causes, consequences, pasts and futures. Everything.
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reply posted on 18-7-2008 @ 04:51 PM by clg79
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I'm sure as the days progress you'll find people claiming the same (wanting it all to stop). Give it time and people will want out. They will find
themselves being more controlled, more oppressed, and either they will accept it or refuse it. It is all a matter of choice. Just don't sell out
before you look around for better options.
A blind man can beat you in a seeing eye contest, and you say you are in a hateful world? I say you haven't suffered enough! Keep on going and
you'll find that after all this truth in front of you...you'll find the answers.
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reply posted on 18-7-2008 @ 05:00 PM by solarstorm
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Originally posted by WhatTheory
Get over it!!
It's life. Nobody said it would be easy.
Ur right it is life....but the human spirit deserves the surrounding of love and not this reptilian agenda.
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reply posted on 18-7-2008 @ 05:01 PM by Terran Blue
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Originally posted by WhatTheory
Get over it!!
It's life. Nobody said it would be easy.
A career in counselling beckons...
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reply posted on 18-7-2008 @ 05:03 PM by Malevolent_Aliens
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Originally posted by Nohup
Turn off your TV. Stay away from the computer. Don't read the newspaper. Just go outside and enjoy the day. Pretty soon you'll be happy and less
tense, and you'll start to enjoy life again.
Very good advice!
I should probably do the same!
It's easy to get caught up on all the negative because it's everywhere around us. On the TV, Computer, In the Newspaper etc. etc.
Take a hike somewhere, go find a nice place where you feel close to nature. Sometimes finding a family in need and helping them out in someway can
brighten your spirit and make your day.
Hang in there, stand strong and spread the positive.
My 2 cents!
[edit on 18-7-2008 by Malevolent_Aliens]
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reply posted on 18-7-2008 @ 05:09 PM by Maya432
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Originally posted by WhatTheory
Get over it!!
It's life. Nobody said it would be easy.
Dude,Dude, Dude
someone cries out.... and you say "Get Over It"
I get the feeling that you are exactly one of the un-caring people that the OP
is talking about..
wow........ thats COLD DUDE........real COLD....
as far as being balanced?....that would be like 50% Bad and 50% good...
I wonder what our world percentage would be.
50 % BAD does sound like a lot of bad....
Not sure about the rest of you but the Op`s main post
sure did bring tears to my eyes...
I also echo his exact sediments ....
some days it is hard to cope knowing the worlds evils.....
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reply posted on 18-7-2008 @ 05:15 PM by WhatTheory
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Originally posted by Maya432
Dude,Dude, Dude
someone cries out.... and you say "Get Over It"
I get the feeling that you are exactly one of the un-caring people that the OP
is talking about..
wow........ thats COLD DUDE........real COLD....
Hey, I realize it was harsh but sometimes people need to be slapped with tough love.
Stop your whinning and to use the OP's analogy, if you don't like the line you are in then move to another line or find a way aroung the line.
Everybody has problems so deal with it!
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reply posted on 18-7-2008 @ 05:33 PM by LAUGHING-CAT
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OP if you will, allow me to say that what you're going through is normal, and it won't get any better.
If it helps, I'm pushing 50 and my mechanism for protecting my sanity is humor. I like to look at life through clear lenses, and I find alot of humor
in what I see.
In a thread a few months back I stated that my employer likes me because I am unflappable. What I don't bother to explain to him is that I realized a
long time ago is that I'm just a pixel of the the whole picture and the whole thing is laughable. Do your best for you and yours and the rest will
fall into place.
Don't be afraid, of anything.
You may not believe this, but my friends all think of me as a right wing nut job, maybe I am. But they ALL know that when the chips are down, they
come to me to sort things out.
Peace to you, my friend. LIFE IS GOOD
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reply posted on 18-7-2008 @ 05:51 PM by Wallachian
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You want out. A lot of us wanted out at some point.
But you're still here, and that's for a reason. Maybe your mission here didn't even begin yet. In any case it did not end yet.
So with that in mind, go right now and do something you enjoy doing!
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reply posted on 18-7-2008 @ 06:28 PM by undo
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XL,
I completely understand what you mean! When people start to ponder existence, history, their own situations, and genuinely begin to care about each
other, they are immediately presented with that puzzle. What you do with it, is a determination of character. What route will you take?
-Will you blame the other people who are going threw the same thing you are?
-Will you automatically assume it's always that other guy's fault?
-Will you seek out people from all walks of life who share your common goal?
-Will you try to escape?
-Will you dedicate yourself to helping where you can?
-Will you dedicate yourself to being part of the problem?
What will you do?
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reply posted on 18-7-2008 @ 07:02 PM by gen0cide
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You can always leave society and live far away, in a forest, in a mountain, in a tropical jungle. No more worries about legality, senseless killing,
greed, crime, politics, money, and all the other things that bring down happiness.
All you would have to worry about is food and shelter. Try to get a girl to go with you and you'll be set for happiness for a lifetime.
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reply posted on 18-7-2008 @ 07:27 PM by willywagga
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Originally posted by XcLuciFer
This is more of an affirmation then anything, I don't really care what people think of what I'm writing. I'm writing this in the hopes that who
ever or what ever is in control, it or they, will hear my distaste for the sorry existence that people call life! It can't take it anymore everyday I
wake up and find that I'm surrounded by stupidity! I don't feel Human, I can't be Human. I feel alone, disconnected. Its hard to put into words
just how ridiculous I have come to find life to be on this planet. Its as though some one decided to play a practical joke on me and they've taken
it to far!! Well enough is enough.....I want to wake up for this bad dream. I don't even begin to understand how things are allowed to go on as
they are, its unfathomable that people are killing each other over nothing!!! Really examine ever war that has ever been fought, their is no
justifiable reason to be so cruel to your own kind. How could one torture or watch something living, suffer the why that Humans do. And you would
think that killing another Human being would be as low as one can get but no think agin, someone had a great idea instead of killing them, find ways
to make them scream in agony! What a joy, Humans love seeing others being mutilated, helpless and terrified so much that we have Hollywood
bluckbusters like chainsaw massacre. This is worse than a bad dream because no matter how hard I try I can't seem to wake up. I didn't sign up for
this, and I demand to be relocated, released. I do not want to be here to watch these animals destroy what once was and still could be a paradise.
why should I have to stuffer along with these MONSTERS!!! Their is supposed to be balance in the universe, yet I see none here. What crime could my
soul have commited to deserve such damnation. Who would create such a vile cage for its personers? I demand an answer! I demand an explanation for
this contempt, this hatetred which is being displayed in a unscapable arena. How much pain must I endure before I am redeemed? I BEG of you, GIVE ME
LEAVE!
[edit on 7/18/2008 by XcLuciFer]
Yes it is worse than a bad dream, we are terrible creatures in so many extreme ways, we seem to crave it as a species, but it is also equally true
that we are capable of great love and great beauty and great art. We are the ultimate Yin/Yang, the light and the dark. You and me, we are the light
and dark, it is very important to let your light shine, others, in much darker places than either of us need to know that we care and we worry about
goodness and about hope. Hope springs eternal.
As Leonard Cohen put it so wonderfully:
"There is a crack in everything, that's how the light gets in."
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reply posted on 18-7-2008 @ 07:32 PM by Wintermute
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reply to post by XcLuciFer
Shhhh, quiet down and drink away your pain like the rest of us. There, there now. The world is a tough place and life is impossible to win at, so
the best advice I can give you is to sit back with a tall glass of something alcoholic, realize how absurd life really is, and then laugh your way all
the way to hell. It's all we can do.
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reply posted on 18-7-2008 @ 07:41 PM by stinkhorn
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reply to post by XcLuciFer
Dont be such a baby, man up already! Let me guess, you are of the liberal persuassion?
I mean seriously, life is what you make it, you want to go around like a floating turd, then so be it. I will not succumb to anyones desires but my
own. Own yourself and you own the world.
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reply posted on 18-7-2008 @ 07:43 PM by undo
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Originally posted by Wintermute
reply to post by XcLuciFer
Shhhh, quiet down and drink away your pain like the rest of us. There, there now. The world is a tough place and life is impossible to win at, so
the best advice I can give you is to sit back with a tall glass of something alcoholic, realize how absurd life really is, and then laugh your way all
the way to hell. It's all we can do.
XL,
Don't listen to the Goblin King (Wintermute) ... Don't dance magic dance!
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reply posted on 18-7-2008 @ 08:10 PM by iwant2believe1992
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reply to post by XcLuciFer
i agree with everything everyone else has been saying but i would like to add that it doesn't have to be hell. you can see the good in people. we're
not all monsters. the people who are (and alas, i admit them to be a majority) seek to destroy those who seek something more meaningful than having
power. what is that one thing that gives peace to all? Peace. Violence may beget more violence but peace also begets more peace. there is nothing
wrong with what you're saying but wanting out will get you nowhere. Just deal with what you're given. survive. it will make you a better person.
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reply posted on 18-7-2008 @ 08:20 PM by dgtempe
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This is nothing but a pitty party.
Look, you know, i've had those parties also- but my life has changed a thousand % by getting up in the morning and saying, OUT LOUD: THIS WILL BE A
GOOD DAY!! GOOD THINGS WILL HAPPEN!
Dont beleive in God? thats fine. You are talking to the Universe!!
Try to help yourself- educate yourself, look up self help in healing, outlook,how to control your thoughts,...DONT BE LAZY.
I guarantee you, that if you were to follow some of this advice you would be a new person!!!
But you dont beleive me, because i can feel it.
Unless you try, i wont give comfort to anyone who dwells on negativity-
Try not to take this the wrong way.
I've been where you are. BELEIVE AND TRUST IN ME.
As far as the news, DONT WATCH. At this point i dont care about anything but my family (wow, yea thats me talking)- and should the moment come when
there is a real emergency, or the other shoe drops, come here and we will all be here to give support to one another[provided we can] or you will find
the strength to face whats dished out to you!!!!!
Look around and TRY TO HELP THYSELF.
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reply posted on 18-7-2008 @ 08:25 PM by toasted
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reply to post by XcLuciFer
" Who would create such a vile cage for its personers? "
well, we ARE in a war between good and evil, maybe God is talking to you, maybe Satan is screwing with you?!
I dunno.
Only you can answer that. But times awastin', the clock is ticking and you have to decide something.
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reply posted on 18-7-2008 @ 08:28 PM by predisposed
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reply to post by XcLuciFer
This is worse than a bad dream because no matter how hard I try I can't seem to wake up. I didn't sign up for this, and I demand to be relocated,
released. I do not want to be here to watch these animals destroy what once was and still could be a paradise. why should I have to stuffer along with
these MONSTERS!!! Their is supposed to be balance in the universe, yet I see none here. What crime could my soul have commited to deserve such
damnation. Who would create such a vile cage for its personers? I demand an answer! I demand an explanation for this contempt, this hatetred which is
being displayed in a unscapable arena. How much pain must I endure before I am redeemed? I BEG of you, GIVE ME LEAVE!
Albeit a few gramatical errors, the sentiment here and way of describing the earth is very beautiful.
I would like to offer a possibility and a few beliefs.
In a later thread you mentioned you thought there would have been a conscious choice to come to this life, and now you have had a change of heart.
That the situation here is not right for you and you would like to leave because of various readings, webs of deceipt, cruelty, suffering etc.
However, I think it is possible, that perhaps when you make the decision to go into the next life, that at that time, you can see the whole duration
of it, and the entirety of what happens during it. However, to enter that life, you must forget all that you have seen, and know. Hence if you made a
choice to enter, it would be based on the entire life, not what you have experienced until now.
I assume you are not particularly aged? Ofcourse good things can be just around the corner, and like another poster mentioned, things do change. I
believe the bad must come with the good. Take chemical highs, afterwards there is a down no? The Tao, and the balance in the universe should be
maintained, and also, your body mind and soul is a reflection or a micro universe in itself.
If you truly want to get off this ride, I am aware of only one avenue that you can take. That is the floatation tank, if you have enough money to buy
one, then do. I suggest research the work of John Lily, and his counterparts. www.gatewaysbooksonline.com is a great place to start. It covers field
of consciousness and metaphysics, spirtiual transformation.
I advise you this can be very heavy stuff. However, if you are so fortunate as to attain a tank, then after a period of time, dependant on you, it is
possible, I understand, to access other worlds. I myself have not yet got a tank, due to finance, however, in the future, I hope to.
I must mention the fact that probably all of the mystics and writers used psychoactive compounds, many now illegal. John Lillly was using the float
tank, in combination with Ketamine HCl and LSD-50, um, these are illegal for human consumption in most parts of the world. However, I would reccomend
the former for faster dissociative affects and spirtitual revelations. Do check the legality, if ill, do so at your own risk. Ofcourse research the
substance thouroughly first regardless, use www.erowid.org.
This an exit route, not the only one. But the only one I know off. I would also reccomend internal/energy cultivation, such as Qi Gong, meditation, or
Yoga etc, if you are not already practicing one of the arts.
Lucifer, I hope this helps. Any questions U2U me.
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reply posted on 18-7-2008 @ 08:58 PM by riggs2099
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Pull the trigger and end it....we have enough bytching and moaning.I rather enjoy this world...chaos and destruction galore...enough for everyone. You
don't like it then tough shyznit...like someone said this is a pity party and your the main guest. Let your mommy console you in her arms and tell
you everything will be ok....while we who are here for the pleasure this world offers enjoy it.
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