The Online Persona verses the Real You, page 7


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reply posted on 26-7-2008 @ 09:44 AM by The_Alarmist2012
reply to post by NephraTari



There is good and bad in everything, if there is any inherent danger in the personal use of an online persona it may be the risk of a person losing some part of their true real life personality, to become someone else, to follow others, to accept that which they would otherwise not, to be controlled in real, yet unnoticeable ways.


reply posted on 28-7-2008 @ 09:07 AM by leapoffaith
Nice topic

I think in real life I am more extreme than online.
I haven't posted much on ATS, but I did on European forums. In real life I say whatever comes to mind without thinking first. Although the positive part is that I am as honest as can be, the negative side is that people get hurt. And it's amazing how easily people get hurt when it comes to issues of faith.

Online I feel obliged (as a matter of fact I don't have a choice to think before I type. That's also why I like to be on forums: they help you organise your own thoughts and beliefs while learning from others as well.

I am not afraid to say what I think. Most people already think I am a bit excentric but I seem to get away with it.

In real life I even utter beliefs that are not mine just for the fun of discussing it. Like mind-exercises. I understand a lot, I want to learn from people. I want to solve the puzzle, because I believe every individual holds a piece of the truth, a piece of the puzzle. I believe in ufo's and aliens, but I believe we're also related to the aliens. And I believe that the aliens must be the gods our ancestors talked about. I believe in ghosts, I believe matter is an illusion. And at the same time I am prepared to believe the complete opposite as long as you provide me with the proper arguments.

My online personality comes closer to the actual person I am than my offline personality simply because being online helps me unfold my own chaotic thoughts and beliefs. And believe me although the above may sound psychotic, I actually function pretty good in normal life



reply posted on 28-7-2008 @ 12:27 PM by sir_chancealot
Originally posted by KilgoreTrout
Originally posted by sir_chancealot
Do *NOT* answer questions such as these. This isn't merely harmless curiosity. TPTB use such things as responses to these types of questions to gauge if you will be a real problem, or merely a problem "online". Don't answer questions like this.


If a person is a 'problem online' they are reaching far more people than they could otherwise 'in person', so it is the online persona that they would wish to 'kill'. If you let go a little of your fear of TPTB and acknowledge them for the insignificantly small group that they are, you would realise that by being our true selves, here, and being honest and unapologetic about it, is what will ultimately destroy TPTB. They are terrified of us. And rightly so.


Ok, fictional scenario for you. When they are arresting your neighbor, and raping his wife and daughters on the front lawn, are you going to shoot them, or blog about it on the internet? BTW, Don't answer that. Rhetorical question. You should never answer questions like that.

They are only "terrified of us" (i.e., internet-only protestors) BEFORE the plans actually commence. Once they are in full swing, they aren't really worried about the internet, because they will pull the necessary "plugs" to ensure that information never gets out of a given geographical area.

Paranoid? Perhaps. Perhaps even most likely paranoid. Still, it's what I would do if I were running the show (so to speak).


reply posted on 28-7-2008 @ 12:43 PM by KilgoreTrout
Originally posted by sir_chancealot
Ok, fictional scenario for you. When they are arresting your neighbor, and raping his wife and daughters on the front lawn, are you going to shoot them, or blog about it on the internet? BTW, Don't answer that. Rhetorical question. You should never answer questions like that.


You're American I guess.

Rhetorical or not I will answer, I do not share your fears. I don't own a gun, therefore I wouldn't shoot him, but I do have a rather handy length of pick axe handle - teak no less - and I would wrap it round his head a few times while I waited for a few burly men to step in. Which this being Britain, they would.


They are only "terrified of us" (i.e., internet-only protestors) BEFORE the plans actually commence. Once they are in full swing, they aren't really worried about the internet, because they will pull the necessary "plugs" to ensure that information never gets out of a given geographical area.


Information is power, and never allow your protests to exist only in this space, be yourself, here and elsewhere, be heard. If the internet goes down, so be it, short wave radio will re-emerge or something will to fill the void. We need each other, more so than ever, and we need to trust in each other. No matter what they do to us, or try to do to us, we still possess the power to resist and it is up to the individual to realise the full potential of that power within themselves.


Paranoid? Perhaps. Perhaps even most likely paranoid. Still, it's what I would do if I were running the show (so to speak).


Paranoia is good, I indulge in it frequently, it is an instinct that should be listened to. But as Sapient beings we have the power not only to recognise danger but to distinguish the nature of that danger, and to overcome our desire for flight with one to fight.


reply posted on 28-7-2008 @ 01:31 PM by The_Alarmist2012
reply to post by sir_chancealot



If what you say is true, then why post anything at all in any form online?

If people never bother to answer questions like these because of paranoia like this, then perhaps 'they' have already won.

In a pursuit for answers and a search for knowledge questions must be asked, and hopefully answered, along with a healthy exchange of ideas, theories and information.

People, please do not feel inhibited... be open, be yourselves, be honest... always. If you have something to say, say it boldly and always with pride, the greatest contribution anyone can provide here or anywhere is their honest, truthful, uninhibited free expressions. Don't let 'them' take that away from you.

Don't let them control you.



reply posted on 9-8-2008 @ 06:20 AM by ignorant_ape
yes - i can truthfully state that i am exactly the same person on ATS as i am everyhere else

BUT.....................you knew there would be a but , didnt you

the best way i can put it is that i do try to compartmentalise

i do not express the same views everywhere i go - that is NOT an admission that i express different views in real life , or other venues

just that i have never had a discussion of UFO`s on my wargames forum - and conversly i have never seen fit to talk about wargaming here

why - becaiuse i see them as seperate facets of my life

to illustrate the point that i hold the same views where ever i am - an annecdode of how on a climbing fourm , last year i managed to get a 7 day posting ban for being one of the ones who went " mental " and jumped feet first into a flame war about the falklands war and the status of the islands - it had started off being a perfectly civilized thread about iceclimbing in patagonia - if you are wondering how / why it started - but it got derailed - as threads do

and the views i expressed there - were identical to the views i express on ats threads when the issue arrises

but like i said - i do not start threads on the superioriy of tri-cams over hexcentrics on ATS

i have several different log in names - that i roughly use for similar forums - some are based on my real name - foor activities where i routinly meet other forum members - and such - others strictly anonymous - like ` ignorant ape ` - and only used on conspiracy boards

does that disjointed rambling answer the question ?


reply posted on 9-8-2008 @ 06:47 AM by JPhish
Originally posted by The_Alarmist2012
How many of you would step forward in a group of people, friends, peers or coworkers and freely express your thoughts or views on the topics you get involved in here at ATS?

I do it all the time . . . sadly the people i try conversing with do not have open minds and the conversation ends abruptly because of ignorance.
Are you the same YOU here at ATS that you are in the real world?

I'd like to think so. I've gotten together with 2 people i've met on the internet and we were the people we had come to know.
Can you answer the above honestly?

I've answered it as honestly as it can be subjectively answered.
How many of you have or would actually share everything you do here at ATS with your family and friends?

I do and my family is sick of hearing me. They seem to think that the subjects discussed on this forum are unimportant. I disagree.
Is it possible for a person to have two completely different personalities, one that exists only online here and the other in the real world?

absolutely, i have friends who are not the same people on the internet. I'd say that their online personalities are more genuine than their real life representations of themselves.
From a psychological aspect, is it healthy to have an outlet for an alter-ego who is not as reserved, one that can say and do things the other will not?

I think it is "ok" to have an "alter ego" if you are unable to express yourself in real life. But I think it's much better to just act as you are, all the time.
Do any of you have alternate user accounts which you use to express other things you would not with a primary user account?

I only have one account. I wasn't even aware that you could have multiple accounts . . . it'd be pretty funny to find out that someone has been arguing with themselves on this forum.


reply posted on 11-8-2008 @ 11:35 PM by angryamerican
reply to post by The_Alarmist2012



Good idea for a thread. I am for the most part the same. All thow on ATS I am a little more forceful with my ideas. just a little.


reply posted on 22-8-2008 @ 09:19 PM by The_Alarmist2012
Apparently online anonymity does provide a voice for those who would otherwise be silenced, at least in this case....

Mormons take gay union issue to the Internet



www.msnbc.msn.com...

SALT LAKE CITY - Prompted by their church's support for a California initiative to ban gay marriage, some Mormons are voicing opposition to the proposed ban on the Internet — saying in cyberspace what they might not be able to express in church buildings.

"We need a place where people can have a discussion and get information," said Laura Compton, a contributor at MormonsforMarriage.com. "And people need to know that it's not coming from an anti-Mormon place, or a gay Castro district place. It's coming from a faithful place."

MormonsforMarriage is one of a handful of Web sites to spring up since June, when top Mormon leaders distributed a letter to be read from California pulpits to call the faith's 750,000-plus members there to contribute money and time to help pass Proposition 8.


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