The Online Persona verses the Real You, page 5


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reply posted on 19-7-2008 @ 01:25 AM by xpert11
Long term member here .

Originally posted by The_Alarmist2012
How many of you would step forward in a group of people, friends, peers or coworkers and freely express your thoughts or views on the topics you get involved in here at ATS?


I discuss some of the economic and topics that appear on BTS with other people . Some of the more US centric topics wouldn't hold a lot of interest with other people so I don't mention them as often .

Are you the same YOU here at ATS that you are in the real world?


Minus certain four letter words and other language I am pretty much myself . I do get struck into people a little more outside of ATS .

Can you answer the above honestly?


Yes I cant think of a reason not to answer the above questions in an honest manner .

How many of you have or would actually share everything you do here at ATS with your family and friends?

Is it possible for a person to have two completely different personalities, one that exists only online here and the other in the real world?


A person only has one real personality that comes to light eventually. People can pretend to be whatever they want to be online and beyond the keyboard .

From a psychological aspect, is it healthy to have an outlet for an alter-ego who is not as reserved, one that can say and do things the other will not?


While you should always be respectful of others it never pays to be anyone but yourself .

Do any of you have alternate user accounts which you use to express other things you would not with a primary user account?


Aside from the fact that action is banned by the T&C my posts stand on there own by merit . I have no need to resort to such childish actions .





[edit on 19-7-2008 by xpert11]


reply posted on 19-7-2008 @ 03:36 AM by Ian McLean
Originally posted by The_Alarmist2012
reply to post by Ian McLean


The truth can be liberating, there is no reason to feel inhibited here.


Sigh. Okay. I don't want to be rude or judgmental or seem to be trying to stand from a superior position. The reason I post at ATS is because I find the members of this forum very open-minded and particularly self-aware. If the following thesis seems off base, realize I may be projecting opinions and past self-analysis. So, in broad strokes:


The 'D-Ego' is a prison cell.

The ubiquitous use of 'online avatars', to express things you normally wouldn't, is not psychologically healthy.

It's a social sickness endemic to our modern technological world. It can also be exploited as a form of control.

In the same way that, in the 20th century, mass transit led to the decline of closely-knit physical communities, in the 21st century individual broadcast communication is leading to the decline of face-to-face intellectual interaction.

Our thoughts, ideas, and opinions are being channeled through a media that is inherently controllable and deterministic.

When communicating face-to-face with someone, there is nuance, emotion, and understanding that is impossible to capture though electronic media.

Relieving the urge to intellectually communicate via such media can actually stunt social growth in an individual, by allowing a somewhat-satisfying outlet. Just as the sexual urge goads many to find mates, intellectual boredom goads the development of social and conversational skills. Via incomplete substitute, such fulfillment is being undermined.

In a similar way to how polarized media opinions ('left' vs 'right') create barriers of understanding between people, the schism between 'real life' and 'online' personality creates barriers of social cooperation between people.

It's no wonder many 'Internet geeks' are considered social inept and loners -- the very media encourages such. It is the path of least resistance.



There. There's much more to this (I have been mentally composing a post on this for a while), but that's the jist of it.


reply posted on 19-7-2008 @ 04:59 AM by woodwytch
reply to post by AshleyD


You go girl I love reading your posts ... they do show that you've given some thought to the subjects before posting ... you actually have something valid and constructive to say.

Unfortunately that doesn't seem to apply to all !

>>>>

NOTE; The following is not meant as a personal attack because it applies to ALL therapists who fit into this catergory (you know who you are) ! And I shall not be partaking in a derailing argument about it ... these are simply observations that others will doubtless have picked-up on.

The post about NLP (on a previous page and by another poster), is a perfect example and I have to say it alarmed me a little. Especially as it was written by someone who claims to be a 'trained' therapist.


(quote); 'completely unaware of the dichotomy and difference portrayed ...'

and

'not necessarily lied just ignorant' and OMG


As a fellow therapist in practices that are still viewed with suspicion by many let me be the first to congratulate said poster on setting the field back 10 paces by anyone who reads that post.

Such comments / accusations are not only offensive to people in general but might also scare-off the timid and slightly paranoid, who gain confidence in their anonymity and find a voice. To the point where they might potentially avoid posting on some future threads in case someone see's beyond there online persona.

Great therapy skills ! Maybe a course in people skills should be next on the list ? I seriously hope (for your clients sake) that you and others like you are different in 'real-life'.

Woody


reply posted on 19-7-2008 @ 11:06 AM by SUNRAY06
reply to post by The_Alarmist2012


My Own Private Idaho

Ever mindful of the Zionist propoganda that seeks to brand every opponent of the State of Israel an ANTI SEMITE. Me I stem from the tribe of Hamm and I oppoese the apartheid system imposed on the Palestinians by Israeli forces. The double standards and human rights abuses conducted as routine business.
I say now...NO ISRAEL KNOW PEACE..before May 14th 1948....there was ..only PALESTINE...and in this the seeds of conflict began
I speak out now for injustice..and one drop of Palestinian blood is worth exactly the same as Jewish blood shed..not the way the Zionist purport that one drop of Jewish blood is worth more than the life of any child or man of arab decent. My views are not popular...and my friends and I speak openly about our thoughts..on America Israel, Iran Iraq etc..and no one is spared from the critical review. Pity the Zionist. forced to count the number of enemy's the state of Israel has around the world..his job will be never ending for daily some new atrocity is visited upon the people of Gaza either by the gun the tank or the airforce.

No Isreal -KNOW PEACE




reply posted on 19-7-2008 @ 11:07 AM by ofhumandescent
I can voice my thoughts freely on ATS.

No I would never discuss my "true thoughts" at work, bad idea. Read this article to learn how I view my workplace. Snakes at the Water cooler: The Reptilian Presence at the Office think-aboutit.com...

Managment at my workplace, operates by pitting the people that aren't managers against each other so everyone spies and snitches on everyone else in hopes of becoming a manager. I just try to be pleasant and very superficial towards the people I work with because, sadly I can't trust any of them. Years back and at a different company that was not the case.

As far as aliens, I would never mention this subject to anyone because no one, not even my three best friends, my husband or family - no one believes we have been "visited". They laughed at me the last time I brought up the subject of ufos / aliens. Now that Larry King has begun to air stuff they are wondering. But my husband (who has a degree in Physists says going beyond the speed of light / space travel long distances is impossible).

Most people that I know at work or on a social level just don't believe in the possiblity of aliens already on earth, shadow governments or secret conspiracies. They live in a Barbie and Ken Doll world.

My husband and friends do not believe that 911 was committed by outside our government. I suspect our government was behind it to manipulate the American People into a war.

I also wonder about the possiblity of planet wide mind control of our species through the use of technology and or chemicals. I say this because somethings up, something planet wide is going on and I feel like I'm the only one that sees somethings up. I don't pretend to know exactly what that something is but most people can't or won't see that things are amiss. It has been my experience that most people believe what they need to believe.

No, I don't openly discuss my deep thoughts to people I work or live with because they have closed themselves off to the possiblities that there is more then what your eyes see.

That is why all you folks expressing your ideas on ATS are so important and stimulating to me. Food for my mind I guess you would say. I will never meet any of you but you and your ideas and the fact that most of you are open enough to the possiblities of what could be out there make you all very important to me.

[edit on 19-7-2008 by ofhumandescent]


reply posted on 19-7-2008 @ 11:13 AM by funky monk
reply to post by LordInfamous


mmm, it's cool Lordy how you can be so open an honest about how you feel about yourself on this bbs, And I totaly respect you for being able to express yourself like that

-fm


reply posted on 19-7-2008 @ 01:08 PM by ArMaP
Originally posted by The_Alarmist2012
How many of you would step forward in a group of people, friends, peers or coworkers and freely express your thoughts or views on the topics you get involved in here at ATS?
I do it all the time, if the subject is interesting enough to those people I am talking to.

Are you the same YOU here at ATS that you are in the real world?
Yes, my ATS presence is an almost exact copy of myself, the only differences being that my avatar has a better combed hair and I don't speak English off-online.

In fact, I only speak English on-line.

Can you answer the above honestly?
Yes, as always, the same off-line.

How many of you have or would actually share everything you do here at ATS with your family and friends?
There is no need to share everything, only the more interesting bits. If someone asks you how was your day do you tell him/her everything that happened?

Is it possible for a person to have two completely different personalities, one that exists only online here and the other in the real world?
I think that is obvious, in the same way some people behave in a completely different way when at work or at home, some people need to do that.

From a psychological aspect, is it healthy to have an outlet for an alter-ego who is not as reserved, one that can say and do things the other will not?
As I am not a psychologist, I can only answer as a common person, and I think that all things that help us getting through our lives are welcome. I chose to live my life in what I think it's the best way for me, so I keep on living in that way either on-line or off-line.

The only occasions when I show a little different personality (although it's the same as always, it gets hold back, usually) is when I play my favourite game, Unreal Tournament 2004, as that gives me an opportunity to liberate some of my natural violence, I consider myself a somewhat naturally violent person, but I refrain from using violence because I think it's pointless and bad to my health.

Do any of you have alternate user accounts which you use to express other things you would not with a primary user account?
No, I have no need for that.

PS: a sad example of how we are not able to really know on-line how people are off-line is the case of ATS member Weise.
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