posted on Jul, 19 2008 @ 10:43 AM
Hello! I'm pretty new to ATS. Although on the surface I'm an Okie redneck living on 10 acres 20 miles from any seat of civilization, scratch that
surface and you'll find an an educated, intelligent woman who has traveled to foreign countries, loves increasing her knowledge and was on the debate
team in high school.
Way back in the late 70's I had some friends who were convinced that the end of civilization, if not the world, was imminent. They hoarded silver
coins and things they thought would have value and had a cabin in the mountains that they intended to retreat to when 'it all falls apart.'
Obviously they were wrong, but they opened my eyes to some things and awakened in me a desire for self-sufficiency that is still one of the major
purposes of my life.
I agree wholeheartedly with the basic premise (as I understand it) put forth by the OP. America was founded on independence and personal
responsibility, and somewhere along the line the country seems to have lost, or discarded, both principles. Although handicapped by lack of funds, I
am working as hard as I can towards being able to survive 'off the grid.' At this point, I can provide some of my own food, have a well for water
(off the flouride and chlorine, Yay!), and can survive, albeit not comfortably in the Summer, off the power grid. And mostly, everyone who knows about
it shakes their head and thinks I'm 'weird.'
Having read about the Illuminati, Bilderbergers, Skull & Bones, and a lot of similar stuff, I came to the conclusion that U.S. politics and our
elections are just a big show put on to distract the U.S. public from what's really going on in the country. Our 'leaders' are mostly just puppets,
and no matter which puppet is in the 'big chair,' the puppetmasters are still the same; nothing will significantly change. I've read that the
American public didn't really elect Bush this last time, and all the fuss about that, but what did it really matter? I've read that Bush & Kerry
were frat brothers who have the same agenda under the veneer, and we'd still be going the same general direction as a country no matter which was
If most of that is true, then 'they' won't allow Obama to be elected if he really is different, but more likely he's just another puppet who will
not be able to make any REAL changes. Ron Paul might actually not be one of the puppets; I like him and would have gone and voted for him if he were a
viable candidate come election day, but I (thought I) knew from the beginning that 'they' would never allow him to be elected. If he's for real,
he's too much of a threat to their control.
I'm no hero or martyr, and all I really want is some happiness and freedom as I approach the Autumn of my life. All the same, I feel a bit of guilt
as I attempt to hunker down and save myself and my husband from what may be coming without too much concern about my 'fellow Americans.' I do try to
open eyes where I can and at least get people thinking about taking care of themselves instead of depending on the gov't to do it for them; there are
some 'mainstream' disaster scenarios that might result in the collapse of the system without dragging conspiracies, aliens, or the Mayan calendar
into the picture.
I want enough government to provide an infrastructure of roads and be able to keep crime under control to the extent that I can go about my business
without worrying about it too much, and I'm amenable to paying some taxes for that, but the current government is way out of control and needs
drastic downsizing in my opinion. Not that I believe it will happen. There are whole generations of families living off of our taxes, children being
educated (indoctrinated?) with the money we have to pay to 'own' a house and land, etc. etc. I can't even choose not to wear my seat belt without
breaking the law.
So, if you don't mind, educate me! Where am I wrong? Does it really make any difference who gets elected?