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This is the issue I have with all people who make similar claims. How is it that we "choose" to be here when in this reality there is an involuntary mechanism for bringing life into it? I would actually believe you more if you made the claim that we aren't put here by choice (except by our biological parents). This is the one notion I reject outright because being what I would consider a sane individual in this reality, for me to accept the notion that I would blindly choose to go into this reality and not remember that choice is absolutely insane. I should know if I chose to be born, shouldn't I? Also, if I was given the option of doing something similar in this reality, I would reject such a choice. Why would I feel different elsewhere? The fact of the matter is in this reality children do not choose to be born and convincing me otherwise is an act I find fairly improbable to do.
Originally posted by Quest
Oh, one last note, before anyone buys this and freaks out, we all did this willingly. Getting upset over this is like getting upset over choosing to sleep cause you had a nightmare.
What you just described is an involuntary process then. Breathing is an involuntary function of the human body. The body will at all times attempt to breathe even when its not safe to do so and even when you are unconscious. Obviously if we are created to want to go to this reality, then it is an involuntary aspect of existence. There is no choice in the matter.
Originally posted by Quest
Actualy, we all willingly went into the program. Its just what we do. Part of our base knowledge on formation is that we not only will go through training but want to. Its like the way here we just breath. We don't choose to, we just do. My life here isn't all that great in terms of the way I thought of it before, but now that I have all my other memorys its great! You'll not get a better chance to experience pain and sorrow in the real world.
This is yet another aspect I have issues with. To voluntarily go through multiple lives without remembering them is likely the craziest thing I can think of. Moreso than actually being schizophrenic or something. Repetition is the fundamental aspect of torture or otherwise you could term something like this "hell".
This ties into reincarnation i guess. Because they were being set up with new lives here.
I'm sure its a possibility, but it would be a crazy thing to do.
Originally posted by Leveller
You could choose to forget. There is no reason why this could not be so.
Thats just the problem. At least while you're alive and go through schooling, you can remember your previous years of schooling and build from the experiences you had before. Forgetting everything makes it all extremely pointless, tedious, and downright torturous. If my current state of mind is anything like my "spiritual" mind (which I don't think exists) then I am in agreement with myself and the whole exercise would be a crazy pointless adventure. I don't see why I would attempt to fool my own self.
Maybe voluntarily going through multiple lives does sound crazy. But put it in the context of Quest's experience and it actually sounds quite sane. It's rather like taking lessons at school. You move on from grade to grade, subject to subject.
Originally posted by heelstone
At least while you're alive and go through schooling, you can remember your previous years of schooling and build from the experiences you had before. Forgetting everything makes it all extremely pointless, tedious, and downright torturous.