Car Bomb Explodes Outside Pentagon: A 9-11 Diversion?, page 3
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reply posted on 11-3-2004 @ 09:04 AM by COOL HAND
Originally posted by mrmulder
This
www.geoffmetcalf.com... is part of the plane? Excuse my ignorance but when did that fall off? I see no burn marks on it. Plus it looks completely clean.


The other article talks about the physical effects on the aircraft at impact. That should answer your question.


reply posted on 11-3-2004 @ 11:49 AM by EastCoastKid
Originally posted by Seekerof
The topic of the Pentagon and what hit it was and has been discussed very extensively here within ATS.

Has anyone discussed the diversion of the car bomb, though? I've never seen such a thread. It's interesting to note, that a few others do remember it being reported. The supposed airplane that hit the Pentagon is an offshoot of this discussion. My claim is that the story on the car bomb was put out there to divert attention from the larger target. Is this not reasonable?


As such, ECK....
Have you even found anything remotely confirming your theory or what you heard concerning this car/truck bomb episode, in regards to an article or such?
If you do or did...a link would greatly be appreciated.

Cool Hand provided a link to an archive of 9-11 coverage that mentioned an alleged carbombing outside the state department. And that it was a false alarm. Or, a diversion, if you will. I've been taking a look at the site.

Cool Hand, thanks for the link. It's got a lot of documentation, both mainstream media and legit government sources. The only problem I have is that it is an obviously pro-Bush site, which could be considered biased. There is only one view, the government's view. (If you don't believe me, peruse the books for sale.) The mention comes within the president's 9-11 timeline provided by Ari Fleischer. Official government version.


Kudos to mrmulder for the link of the photo showing debris. It would support my contention that there would at least be wing/tail fragments on the lawn near the building.

Take a look at the debris photo and then jump over to this shot from American Airlines:
www.amrcorp.com...

Looks like part of the tail. But then again, the debris photo could be a fake. (?) Any experts out there? An opinion of the debris photo would be helpful.

Btw, I do recall hearing a report about a carbomb going off outside the Pentagon. Anyway, though; I hope that answers your questions, Seekerof.





regards
seekerof

[Edited on 11-3-2004 by Seekerof]



reply posted on 11-3-2004 @ 02:55 PM by Banshee
Originally posted by John Nada
Do you have links to reports retracting the car bomb story? If you do that would be great. Thanks.


Have at it.
Archive of news reportings on 9-11 10:06am EST - 1ish EST

Remember that most information on that day was via TV & radio. I don't know of any online archive of 9-11 news as it happened other than this.

Sarcasm duly noted, BTW.

-B.


reply posted on 11-3-2004 @ 03:08 PM by EastCoastKid
Originally posted by Banshee
Originally posted by John Nada
Have at it.
Archive of news reportings on 9-11 10:06am EST - 1ish EST

Your site mentioned a report on Fox news. I ran a search of all Fox news stories relating to that specifically and there was no match.

Still searching...


reply posted on 11-3-2004 @ 03:37 PM by EastCoastKid
Here's some of what I've found...

As If Reality Wasn't Bad Enough

Dan Rather spread alarmist rumors on September 11

By Jim Naureckas

In a national emergency like the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, the first thing required from the news media is accurate information. Unfortunately, TV journalists too often delivered misinformation instead. One who did so repeatedly was CBS News' Dan Rather.
www.fair.org...

This site is no good:

TCM Breaking News - 2001/09/11: Car bombing outside of State ...
TCM Archives > TCM Breaking News > 2001/09/11
> Car bombing outside of State Department. ...
archives.tcm.ie/breakingnews/2001/09/11/story23319.asp - 25k - Cached - Similar pages

Been scrubbed, maybe?

An article from Slate.msn.com:

Bruland passes on a rumor that a car bomb has exploded at the State Department. We race over to Foggy Bottom and find utter quiet. A State Department cop says of the bomb rumor, "That's unconfirmed, sir." We walk the perimeter of the building, and find no sign of a bomb or any other chaos. Yet when we return to the Slate bureau at 12:05 p.m., National Public Radio is reporting that a bomb has indeed exploded near Foggy Bottom. Perhaps there was a bomb elsewhere, or there was no bomb at all. It's impossible to know anything this morning.
slate.msn.com...

Excellent diversion, huh?

Colin Powell to Nato en route back to Washington:

"You may have gotten an earlier report that there was a car bomb outside the State Department, but that is not the case."
www.nato.int...

Nato was worried about it. No small thing.

Pentagon attacked

by Ron Fournier
Associated Press
WASHINGTON -- The Pentagon was struck by aircraft, a car bomb exploded outside the State Department and agents patrolled outside the White House with automatic weapons Tuesday as an apparent coordinated terrorist attack spread fear and chaos in the nation's capital.
www.savannahnow.com...

"The day didn't just end at [the Pennsylvania crash of United Airlines Flight] 93," said Army Brig. Gen. W. Montague Winfield, who was at the Pentagon that day. "We were responding to possible hijackings. … We had a car bomb reported at the State Department."

"It ran on the crawler on the TV that a car bomb had exploded outside the State Department," Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage said. "I went out and looked with diplomatic security and didn't see anything, called my colleagues around town and, on the video conference screen, told them there was nothing to it."
abcnews.go.com...

From Poynter:

8:41 NBC cuts to correspondent Jim Miklaszewski, who reports from the Pentagon that the building just shook and he sees construction workers scattering from the area. “It appears to be a small blast. Windows rattled. The building shook.” He promises more details as soon as he can gather them. “Please be careful,” urges Katie Couric.


8:42 ABC’s Clair Shipman reports smoke coming from behind the Old Executive Office Building. There is video of the smoke, from a camera position near Lafayette Park. No definitive word on what we are seeing.

NBC’s Miklaszewski is back with word that the Pentagon is being cleared. “This appears to be a highly sophisticated, coordinated attack.”

CBS reports from the Pentagon that the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine has claimed responsibility for the acts.

8:44 ABC reports a fire at the Pentagon and evacuation of personnel.

9:32 ABC reports that an American Airlines headed from Dulles to LA was hijacked, with 60 passengers and crew on board. Jennings reads an AP report of an car bomb outside the State Department.
www.poynter.org...


There are many reports. All of a car bomb outside the State Department, not the Pentagon. At least I havn't seen any on that. So, I was wrong on that part. Apologies.

The bottom line, though, is that if Colin Powell had to re-assure Nato that there was no bomb at State, it was taken very seriously. I do believe it was an attempt to divert attention away from the big target: whatever it was that went into the Pentagon.


[Edited on 19-09-2003 by EastCoastKid]


reply posted on 15-4-2004 @ 09:29 PM by tigre35
"Within the hour, an aircraft crashed on a helicopter landing pad near the Pentagon, a car bomb exploded outside the State Department, and the West Wing of the White House was evacuated amid threats of terrorism. And another explosion rocked New York about an hour after the crash."

www.staugustine.com...


[06:42] how long ago did all of this styart ?
[06:42] lphabuck> confirmed bomb blew up at pentagon heliport

[06:44] alphabuck...where did you hear confirmed bomb at Pentagon?
[06:44] haronelle> Wender - right - Israelis can't simply complain about terrorist acts - they have to act to solve the underlying problem.
[06:44] juleee....near NY...I think
[06:44] KenBz, the behaviour of the US is hardly analogous to that of Israel
[06:44] pentagon being evacuated
[06:44] * CarlSwanson would hate to be one of the men on the roof of the White House, watching everyone else being evacuated
[06:44] *** Quits: juleee (QUIT: User exited )
[06:44] lphabuck> pixy...live video on messybc
[06:44] shooby, I don't mind being reprimanded, but at least try to impress me with the typing, too. Okey doke?
[06:44] PixyStix its on nbc


www.newsgarden.org...
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