Freemasonry: fun or insane?, page 1
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reply posted on 18-7-2011 @ 10:03 PM by KSigMason
reply to post by Centiment

He really shouldn't be dangling it in front of you, trying to entice you. I'm not really getting an exact image of what your friend is doing to drive you mad. Could we get an example?

Which philosophical principles do you disagree with?

Many of our secrets can be found on the net, but we regard them as private and request our members to keep them among members.

I have many great, long-term, time tested friends who know I'm a Freemason. They have no desire to join, but support me in my endeavors. I have never lied to my friends about anything they've asked about the Fraternity. There are some things I won't tell them, bit I don't hang it over their heads.  That's just wrong.

reply to post by All Seeing Eye

I know many nowadays don't know the meaning or hold dear to fidelity, loyalty. Something freely given, not earned, is not respected or prized.

We have not nor do we desire to mislead humanity. We set reality? Ancient ones? Godless master? Negative ghost rider on all counts.

reply to post by Centiment

Yes there Freemasons here with different Masonic backgrounds and experiences.

1) Freemasonry asks that you don't tell certain things, but it can't force you to. If you felt do compelled to give the secrets then you'd only be expelled. Nothing more. My friends and loved ones have enough respect for me that they respect my wishes.

2) Freemasonry urges one to improve oneself through a strong work ethic. How is this wrong?

3) I disagree.

Freemasonry discourages fanaticism. Akram Elias once said in an interview that the 3 enemies of Freemasonry are Tyranny, Ignorance, and Fanaticism.

Freemasonry is composed of men from all walks of life and many different faiths. From the outside looking in it would seem weird.



reply posted on 19-7-2011 @ 04:32 AM by KSigMason
reply to post by Schrödinger

Wow. Didn't even notice. I hadn't had my breakfast yet.


reply posted on 22-7-2011 @ 05:08 PM by Skyfloating
reply to post by Centiment


People who pretend to have secrets are just being ostentatious. If they really had some secret they would either spill it or not even bring it up.


reply posted on 23-7-2011 @ 11:29 AM by Gaotau
Originally posted by Centiment

Hello,

got a friend who`s a freemason.

He drives me mad when talking about "secrets".


�n fact I`m wondering if he`s not simply going nuts.
I think he wants me to be initiated, That`s why I`m ending in this forum. I can`t be a freemason, it`s against my philosophical principles (though I`m sure I agree with some of the aims of that group).

But gooosshh.. please someone tell me the "secrets" thing is a joke. Here`s an example of a good secret:

"make believe to people that there is a huuge secret so that they all want to become freemasons and we can rule the world with our wisdom".

or "A secret told is not a secret anymore..don`t tell anyone I told you that"


Duh.


Anyone here with the knowledge and who don`t take themselves seriously enough to demystify in a couple sentances this whole obscurantism ?

I`m trying to get a grip at what drove my friend so mad, and if I ever speak against the masons one day it will be only because they helped loosing me a friend.


It seems to me that you can`t really be a mason and have close friends that aren`t. It`s too #ed up
and untrusty.


cheers,

Cedric












Dear friend and user,
I am apart of the beautiful Freemasonic brotherhood. The true secrets aren't secrets to conquer the world, nothing to fear. My grandfather, grandmother, mother, aunt, uncle, and all of my family is in the Fraternity. They're in O.E.S (Order of the Eastern Stars), for women, and Masons for men. You must understand one thing, there is not one thing wrong with the beautiful friendship that the Creator has given us. The secrets are simple. Handshakes and member-only activities. There are no sacrificial lamb offering, or plan to conquer the world. In fact, dear ones, the Freemasons are NOT to discuss political or religious issues within the walls of the Lodge. Do not listen to to the ones who aren't masons, who believe they know everything. They don't.

So mote it be.
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