Iam not discussing Bush nor Bush decisions but the our intel sources back that time had vital information about the presence of WMD in iraq. The decision to advance into iraq were too late and all intel sources dryed before the first us soldier set foot on iraq soil.

Our guess is that the WMD were transported to syria. We have sat intel and other sources but cant proof anything. Guess why / where Syria gain enough intel to create there own nuclear plant, the one that isreal bombed away a few months.

Current situation Iran, Syria, Pakistan, India, Israel are WMD countries.

you apparently are under the impression that the ONLY reason we invaded iraq was because of WMDs. that was just a lie told so that we could get in there.

he was a brutal dictator who not only slaughtered his own people, but his neighbors. and buried them in mass graves very similar to Hitler.

i understand that we sold him the weapons with one hand, and punched him in the nose with the other, but that is besides the point. we weren't only there to get his "WMDs" we were, and are there to free the iraqi people, whom most a very happy that we are there, helping them to attain a better civilization.

now things aren't quite going as planned, and a lot of that stems from Iran supplying insurgents weapons. this is proven when mahmoud ahmedenajad (sp?) essentially said they were going to turn the heat up on us, and very soon after there were more insurgent attacks.

these problem stem far deeper than just iraq and AG. i don't necassarily agree with being at war, simply because it is a constant hemorhage on out society. but i can certainly agree with the intent of us being there. i don't think they set this war up solely for oil, I think that is something that cheney saw a opportunity in (to make a # load of money through KBR, and Haliburton) and tok advantage of. if anything Bush is a man who stands by his words and his convictions, i can at very least give him some respect for that. he is a misguided sole, but i don't believe he is the bogey man that all of you make him out to be.

I wonder how many WMD's we have????

Originally posted by Lokey13
I wonder how many WMD's we have????

enough to blow the world 3 x times. But currently not willing to use them until the bad boys do. Tragicially - than its too late and we all going to hell.

If those WMDs were useable and deadly etc, why weren't they used against the invading American army?

It's a lot better than firing an AK and then chucking your shoes once your ammo runs out.

Originally posted by unnamedninja
If those WMDs were useable and deadly etc, why weren't they used against the invading American army?

It's a lot better than firing an AK and then chucking your shoes once your ammo runs out.

You need knowhow and the people who are willing to give the command. The second Gulf War was nearly without any force. Republic Garde surrender 1k wise, Saddam fled and digged himself into a earthhole. Do you except such generals to execute a command that might killed 10.000+ of there own people.

And dont forget. Saddam got a 6 month warning before the invasion. They made a deal with syria and moved all the weapons.

And look to the USA. They have plenty WMD. When did we used the last one? Yeah right. Hiroshima an Nagasaki 1945

[edit on 18-7-2008 by emergencyresponseteam]

Everyone knows we gave Iraq chemical weapons to fight Iran, back in the 80's.

There were WMD's in Iraq, but they said "made in U.S.A" on the side.

Originally posted by downtown436
Everyone knows we gave Iraq chemical weapons to fight Iran, back in the 80's.

There were WMD's in Iraq, but they said "made in U.S.A" on the side.

So Russia and China gave Weapons to Iran. Dont blame just one side of the coin.

Originally posted by SRTkid86
you apparently are under the impression that the ONLY reason we invaded iraq was because of WMDs. that was just a lie told so that we could get in there.

he was a brutal dictator who not only slaughtered his own people, but his neighbors. and buried them in mass graves very similar to Hitler.

i understand that we sold him the weapons with one hand, and punched him in the nose with the other, but that is besides the point. we weren't only there to get his "WMDs" we were, and are there to free the iraqi people, whom most a very happy that we are there, helping them to attain a better civilization.

now things aren't quite going as planned, and a lot of that stems from Iran supplying insurgents weapons. this is proven when mahmoud ahmedenajad (sp?) essentially said they were going to turn the heat up on us, and very soon after there were more insurgent attacks.

these problem stem far deeper than just iraq and AG. i don't necassarily agree with being at war, simply because it is a constant hemorhage on out society. but i can certainly agree with the intent of us being there. i don't think they set this war up solely for oil, I think that is something that cheney saw a opportunity in (to make a # load of money through KBR, and Haliburton) and tok advantage of. if anything Bush is a man who stands by his words and his convictions, i can at very least give him some respect for that. he is a misguided sole, but i don't believe he is the bogey man that all of you make him out to be.

Better civilization ???!!! Are you for real, my god, I can't believe you think that, who are the US to impose their take on civilization on any other nation anyway ?? What gives the US that right, I'll tell you: Brutal Force and then more Brutal Force and then more and more, maybe the intention was that when all the Iraqi's were dead they could be considered free, in a Christian spiritual kind of way or in a fundamentalist Islamist kind of way, both add up to the same thing, and if you support one you are inadvertently supporting the other.

Sad, sad, sad.

We used the WMD excuse to invade because WMD's were specifically prohibited by the UN resolutions, in hope to build a coalition.

Iraq was basically "on probation" since gulf war 1, the inspectors were like probation oficers, looking for empty beer bottles or pot seeds. Maybe even taking urine samples.

They should have sent him to rehab! haha

Anyway, he obviously violated his probation, and was not being totaly transparent. That should have been the reason. We should have said " listen, let the inspectors inspect, wherever and whenever they want, and BE transparent, or else the Marines will be up your ass inspecting. Got that? No weapons for you, and we better not even think you are even thinking about it"

And if the nonsense continued, we go in to make sure.

And we are right now 100% sure that Iraq has NO WMD's. NONE. And no intentions of getting any.


AND the REAL reason, for anyone that is interested, is that long term strategy called for dealing with Iran, Iraq, and Syria. Every President since Carter tries to make ME peace his legacy, and it can't be done without dealing with these 3.

ANd logically Iraq would be first. Iran is next. Syria may come to it's senses when it's their turn.

And something much closer to peace than what we have now will be the result.