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Adderall and the like used to dumb down the next generation?

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posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 06:30 PM
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Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) is a condition that becomes apparent in some children in the preschool and early school years. It is hard for these children to control their behavior and/or pay attention. It is estimated that between 3 and 5 percent of children have ADHD, or approximately 2 million children in the United States. This means that in a classroom of 25 to 30 children, it is likely that at least one will have ADHD.


www.nimh.nih.gov...

More and more kids every day are being diagnosed with ADHD. Whether ADHD is a real condition or not is another story, but the criteria for diagnosis is completely subjective. There is no medical test, or any definitive way of diagnosing ADHD. Some of my friends, who were just like any other kids, back in 7th grade used to talk to each other in class. So the teacher met with their parents and suggested that they have ADHD. After that my friend's mother took him to a doctor and he was prescribed Adderall.

So what is Adderall? It is a cocktail of amphetamines.


Specifically, Adderall XR is composed of the following proportions of active ingredients[5]:

* 1/4 dextroamphetamine saccharate
* 1/4 dextroamphetamine sulfate
* 1/4 (racemic dextro/levo-amphetamine) aspartate monohydrate
* 1/4 (racemic dextro/levo-amphetamine) sulfate


en.wikipedia.org...

Amphetamines were what Elvis was addicted to and were a major factor to his demise. Adderall is basically speed marketed to children! Note above that ADHD "becomes apparent" in children in the "preschool and early school years". But is it a physical condition (obviously it isn't or else there would be a way to physically test for it)?


They discovered that the brains of children diagnosed with ADHD were a little behind schedule in growing. Yes, you heard that right. They said they are about three years behind the brains of other children. Everything else was normal. They said if they wait three years those children will catch up and turn out just fine.


www.naturalnews.com...

So what kind of effects would amphetamines have on the brains of developing children?


What they did not say in the results of this study is that the same drugs also stunt the growth of the children's brains. Now this is my assessment of the situation, having studied this issue for several years and knowing that this drug is stunting the development of the children. It is very reasonable to conclude that it also stunts the growth of their brains and guess what? This new study actually proves it, because these MRI brain scans of children's brains that found that these brains were three years behind schedule in development.

80% of the children who were looked at with those MRI scans were on ADHD medications. That's right. All that study did was prove that medication stunts the growth of children's brains. Amazing is it not?


www.naturalnews.com...

And how are they getting away with this? This is a fundamental mistake in science and a true scientist would not jump to conclusions and would also take whether or not the children were taking any medications into account.


Long-term methylphenidate and amphetamine use has also been linked to abnormalities in brain development, similar to those found with long-term coc aine use. Changes on the sleep EEG are also noted with Adderall abuse.


www.add-adhd-help-center.com...

Note that methylphenidate is also known as Ritalin and Concerta, which are the two alternatives to Adderall. So if you were diagnosed with ADHD, you would be prescribed to dose daily. And daily for how long?


ADHD is currently considered to be a persistent and chronic condition for which no medical cure is available, although medication can be prescribed.


en.wikipedia.org...

So apparently ADHD can't be cured. Therefore how long can be assumed to be at least months. My friend's mother made him take it every day for three years at least (as prescribed, he did not want to take it). So that sounds a lot like long-term use.

Now imagine the effects of long term amphetamine use on children in their "preschool and early school years".

So now that it is established that Adderall and the like are linked to retarded brain development, and that those diagnosed with ADHD are required to dose daily for long periods of time, we must ask how many kids are prescribed these drugs?


If anyone questions the widespread nature of Ritalin and other Attention Deficit Disorder ADD ADHD medications commonly prescribed, consider these statistics:

About six million children, roughly one in eight children, will take Ritalin, Adderall, Concerta or other ADHD medications.

Since 1991, prescriptions for ADHD medications quintupled.

In that same time period, Ritalin use for the symptoms of Attention Deficit Disorder ADD ADHD increased 700 percent.

Five lawsuits over the past three years charge Novartis, the makers of Ritalin, with using unethical marketing methods to increase demand.

ADHD medications prescriptions for children ages 2 to 4 increased almost 300% between 1991 and 1995.


www.add-adhd-help-center.com...

So it seems that more and more children are being prescribed these medications.

The next question is, since we know that the FDA is not stupid and is full of researchers and whatnot, how did they come to the conclusion that amphetamines should be prescribed to children for long-term use for a "condition" of which diagnosis is based solely upon a list of subjective criteria? Was this intentional? Adderall and the like do seem to be endorsed by the FDA, which also actively covers up their shortcomings.

Could the conclusion be that the NWO is actively trying to make the next generation of adults more complacent and dumb?

One of the criterion for ADHD is:


4. Often does not follow instructions


en.wikipedia.org...


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[edit on 17-7-2008 by italkyoulisten]




posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 06:39 PM
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people such as teachers and parents give their kids adderall and medicines of those nature to children so they dont have to deal with them. i was prescribed abilify and welbuturin when i was younger and all it did was put me to sleep



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 07:17 PM
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Yeah, but at what cost? I would imagine that a parent would only allow their children to take such medications because they are uninformed about the hazards. Most people do not know that Adderall is really just amphetamines. But why are people uninformed and why is it that the FDA even allows amphetamines to be prescribed to children for long-term use??



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 07:28 PM
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ADDERALL

Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder

Children 3 to 5 years of age: The usual starting dose is 2.5 milligrams daily. Each week, the doctor will raise the daily dosage by 2.5 milligrams until the condition is under control.

Children 6 years of age and older: The usual starting dose is 5 milligrams once or twice a day. Each week, the daily dosage may be increased by 5 milligrams. Only in rare cases will a child need more than 40 milligrams per day.


www.pdrhealth.com...

Children 3 to 5!! On amphetamines! This is the same as giving a three year old speed!



ADDERALL XR

Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder

Children 6 years of age and older: The usual starting dose for children taking Adderall for the first time is 10 milligrams once daily in the morning. At weekly intervals, the doctor may increase the daily dosage by 5 or 10 milligrams, up to a maximum of 30 milligrams a day.

Children already taking regular Adderall are prescribed a single dose of Adderall XR equal to their previous daily total.


www.pdrhealth.com...

Note XR means eXtended-Release. I once took a 10 mg of regular Adderall to stay up and study for an exam and it gave me a pretty good amphetamine buzz for about 8 hours. Imagine children being prescribed 30 mg.



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 07:55 PM
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Devils advocate here...my son has ADHD. He is the REAL DEAL I understand that this is WAY overdiagnosed and people use this as an excuse to drug children into submission. That doesn't mean that ADHD doesn't exist.
As a parent, what am I supposed to do? We have sent my son in for exstensive allergy testing, cut him off of dairy for 2 years, tried to treat him with better nutrition, tried herbal remedies ad nauseum and the fact remains, he has ADHD.
Without medication my son feels out of control and suffers severe depression. He knows he is "different" and feels like an outcast among his peers.
Without medication my son literally jumps up on his desk and makes weird noises- WITH medication he is on the honor roll. What is a parent to do?
We have tried every damn drug in the PDR and Concerta seems to be the "Magic Pill".
During our trial periods I have watched my baby go through the wringer. He took 1 medication that made him stay up all night and clean my house (at the age of 7- why not just shove crank up his nose? He won't forget the baseboards!) and one medication that made him obsess over Legos so much that he couldn't sleep! BELIEVE ME, if I could offer an effective alternative I would. I just want my baby to be healthy, happy and whole.



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 08:19 PM
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I also believe that ADHD is real but I think probably 80% of the people diagnosed with it don't actually have it. How long has your son been on the pills? He may develop a dependence on them, and that might make his ADHD worse when he is off the pills. He will probably chill out naturally as he grows older, because I mean how many hyperactive adults have you seen? Your son probably feels like he's different because he's slapped with this ADHD label.

What did people do before there was ADHD and ADHD medications? It's good that you want your son to be healthy, happy and whole, but it shouldn't be through drugs. Especially these drugs.



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 08:29 PM
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Ya I agree wit above poster...

I have 2 kids 1 autistic and 1 ADD ADHD..

Anyway neither are on drugs.. There are better ways of dealing wit these issues other than drugs..

A while ago they made me go on Paxil.. I tried it for 3 weeks.. It made me sleep all the time and when i was up all I wanted to do is goto sleep again..

After that I decided when my kids got diagnosed wit something that they will get rid of it natrally.. refering to this crap wit ADD/ADJD, and autism..



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 08:36 PM
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I remember a neighbor of mine, that when her child was diagnosed with ADD, she told the doctor to shove their pills, completely changed the diet of her child to natural whole foods, low, sugar, low salt you name it.

Her child within few months started to perform better in school.

I am a strong believer that the problem with many of the children diagnosed with ADD or ADHD and many that are been plague by allergies and Asthma is due to the very unhealthy diet that parents unaware most of the time put the children since they are babies.

It is nothing that makes me scream more than seen and infant with soda in their baby bottlers.



[edit on 17-7-2008 by marg6043]



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 08:39 PM
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He has had it since birth. I was an ADD kid (my biological mother was a drug addict) and I am an ADD adult. I just live with it.
Gabe was always slow to learn- that's okay. He is SO laid back. No rush to sit up, walk...he potty trained when he was four. I have one son who can hyper-concentrate (he wrote a 300 page book when he was 11 years old) and one who has struggled with the "Timeline" from the get go.
The funny thing is that between my 2 sons (Christian being "Gifted and Talented") and Gabe (being "Special Ed"). I worry about Christian more than Gabe. As far as the potential for happiness? Gabe is FAR more likely to lead a happy life!
My I.Q. is documented at 145, my ex-husband and the father of my boys is well over 155- all that I.Q. and we can't think our way out of a paper bag!



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 12:44 PM
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My personal take on this is that children are naturally full of energy, like any young mammal, who naturally learns through play. Sugar and food additives (like food coloring) will cause them to have even more energy.

Adderall and the like is prescribed to more and more people and nobody even cares that it is speed. And the speed path is never a good one!! Amphetamines was what Philip K Dick was addicted to and also was a major factor in his death. Seriously, countless famous people in the 60s and 70s were addicted to amphetamines. People always talk about how marijuana is so bad and then they go and give their 5 year old amphetamines because they are ignorant dumbasses whose opinions are not their own but rather that of tv/entertainment/authority figures.

What amphetamines do to you is that it makes your brain basically operate in overdrive while leaving the mind clear. Say your child is prescribed Adderall. You give him/her one a day. So all day, their brains are working overdrive. Then the next day, you give him/her another one, and their brains are again working in overdrive. The point is that the reason behind it causing bad brain development with prolonged use is due to the fact that the brain never has a chance to fully recover from the overdrive.

This is the law of any drug (or anything really). There will be an equal and opposite reaction. If you take MDMA (ecstasy), you will feel euphoric for like 4-6 hours and then after it wears off you will feel depressed/horrible, proportional to how euphoric it had made you feel. If you smoke pot, you will feel alert and up and such at first, finding it easy to think about philosophical things, but then when you start coming down, you are tired and not alert, and have difficulty thinking.

So if you give a drug that makes your brain work overtime, obviously it will have negative effects on the brain. And if you do not allow the brain to recover (say taking Adderall every morning), then the damage and crash will be much much worse.

THE POINT IS THAT ADDERALL IS LITERALLY AMPHETAMINES, WHICH ARE NO GOOD (on the same level as coc aine, and has very similar effects; I have snorted it once, and it gave nearly the same euphoric rush as coc aine) AND SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY THE FDA FOR LONG TERM USE ON CHILDREN WHO ARE AFFLICTED WITH A "CONDITION" THAT IS BASED UPON SUBJECTIVE TESTING!!

How is it NOT suspicious that this drug is approved for this purpose!? and that more and more kids are diagnosed with a condition that may or may not even exist? And people were fine before there were ADHD medications...

oh and don't forget that amphetamines are HIGHLY ADDICTIVE.

And another note: Meth, widely regarded as one of those scourge drugs such as heroine and crack, is really just a more intense version of amphetamines. It will give you the same buzz and euphoria that amphetamines give (adderall), but the only difference is that it can last for days.



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 03:38 PM
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You are a drug addict and making judgements based on your own experiences of taking drugs recreationally. What EXACTLY does that have to do with ADD?



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 10:03 PM
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I am not a drug addict, although I do sometimes experiment with drugs. I am in it for the experience and knowledge, to open up my mind to different styles of thinking. If anything, I am a bit of a pothead, but I think I am doing pretty well at this point, studying electrical engineering at ncsu, which I think is ranked 3rd in the nation when it comes to engineering. And I was only bringing up my own experiences to show that I know what I am talking about when it comes to this subject, not some rich white guy who could care less, and to compare the effects of the ADD drugs approved for children to the street drugs that people look so negatively upon, to emphasize the point that it is just as, if not worse for your body as most of the illegal drugs out there (expect marijuana). Especially if you take amphetamines every day, like they make children do. And children are especially vulnerable as their brains are still developing.

The only psychoactive that I would ever advocate is marijuana, with responsible use, as it's pros far outweigh it's cons (such as promoting philosophical thinking and creativity, prevents alzheimer's, prevents/slows cancer etc.), and I was just trying to point out the similarity between amphetamines and "hard drugs" (because amphetamine IS a hard drug!!). I am just outraged that they would allow this stuff to be legally given to children on the daily!

[edit on 18-7-2008 by italkyoulisten]



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 10:16 PM
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Amphetamines

EFFECTS LIST #
POSITIVE

* increased alertness
* increased motivation
* increased talkativeness
* positive mood shift, sense of well-being

NEUTRAL

* reduced appetite (anorexia)
* dilated pupils
* flushing
* loss of coordination
* restlessness

NEGATIVE

* increased aggressiveness
* paranoia
* dry mouth
* headache
* increased heart rate (tachycardia)
* increased breathing rate
* increased blood pressure
* rise in body temperature
* fever and sweating
* diarrhea or constipation
* blurred vision
* impaired speech
* dizziness
* uncontrollable movements (twitching, jerking, tremors, etc...)
* insomnia
* numbness
* irregular heartbeat (palpitations, arrhythmia)
* impotence / inability to achieve erection in men (high dose or chronic use)
* convulsions (high dose)
* dry, itchy skin (chronic use)
* acne, sores (chronic use)
* pallor (high dose or chronic use)
* psychotic episodes (rare except in overdoses or after chronic use)

...

Amphetamines are stimulants that affect the central nervous system. Medically they are used to treat depression, obesity, and other conditions.

In addition to the physical effects of amphetamines, users report feeling restless, anxious and moody. Increased doses intensify the effects, and users may become excited or talkative and experience a false sense of self-confidence or superiority. They may behave in a bizarre manner; some become aggressive and hostile.

Prolonged use of amphetamines can lead to malnutrition and vitamin deficiencies, skin disorders, ulcers, lack of sleep, weight loss and depression. Frequent use of large amounts of amphetamines can cause brain damage that results in speech and thought disturbances.

Note: "Speed" is used to refer to amphetamine, methamphetamine, methylphenidate (Ritalin), and other strong stimulants that feel something like amphetamine.

Addiction and Withdrawal #
Users of large amounts of amphetamines over a long period of time can develop an amphetamine psychosis, which is a mental disorder similar to paranoid schizophrenia. The psychosis is manifested by hallucinations, delusions, and paranoia. Bizarre, sometime violent, behavior is exhibited by those with amphetamine psychosis. Symptoms usually disappear within a few weeks after drug use stops.

Withdrawal Symptoms
Amphetamines have the potential to produce tolerance, which means that increased amounts of the drug are needed to achieve the desired effects. Withdrawal symptoms can occur when use of amphetamines is stopped abruptly. Users may experience fatigue; long, disturbed periods of sleep; irritability; intense hunger, and moderate to severe depression. The length and severity of the depression is related to how much and how often amphetamines were used.

* craving
* exhaustion
* depression
* mental confusion
* restlessness and insomnia
* deep or disturbed sleep lasting up to 48 hours
* extreme hunger
* psychotic reaction
* anxiety reactions


www.erowid.org...

Someone describing their experience getting addicted to Adderall:

www.erowid.org...

[edit on 18-7-2008 by italkyoulisten]



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 10:16 PM
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Well I have know quite a few people (guys) that were on similar drugs as children and most seem to continue abusing some substance continually after that. I also wonder if the rash of school shootings and such can be linked to drugs like Adderol. Does that have to be disclosed? Or are the records sealed?

And plenty of adults use it as prescription speed as well. I am in sales, half the salespeople I worked with at a previous company were hyped up on that stuff. THey were always buzzing and had very short attention spans, it drove the rest of us nuts. Half were on speed, the other half on antidepressants or sedatives to deal with the office environment.



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 10:24 PM
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Well I dont have this ADD/ADHD but I have tried Adderall XR and it is ok. It really gave me a boost of energy and made me focus intently on whatever I wanted to. The only negative side effect I noticed was that I would not eat for as long as I was taking them.



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 10:39 PM
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I think you would be noticing a lot more negative side effects if you were taking them daily. Ecstasy is a type of amphetamine and taking it feels awesome, but I dare anyone to take that daily and not get screwed over in the head. It's just the fatigue that it causes on the brain that is the problem. People who take adderall daily for long periods of time will develop dependence, tolerance, and will withdraw if stopped abruptly. Don't judge a drug based on how it feels but rather how it will affect your body physically. You feel up, alert, and euphoric while on it, but when you come down, it will be the opposite. If you take it daily and don't let your brain and body get the rest it needs from expending all that energy and running overtime due to the amphetamines, then you will become more and more unbalanced and will crash.



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 10:43 PM
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Originally posted by bakednutz
The only negative side effect I noticed was that I would not eat for as long as I was taking them.


Prescription diet pills are speed too.



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 10:47 PM
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It's not being used as prescription speed... it IS prescription speed. There is literally no difference. I am unsure if it is linked to the school shootings, but most sources contend that long-term use may lead to a type of psychosis that is indistinguishable from schizophrenia (but will go away a few weeks after amphetamine use is stopped).

I think people should just take my word for it that amphetamines (speed, adderall) and amphetamine-like substances (methylphenidate, ritalin, methamphetamine) are bad for you, are highly addictive, and are especially bad for children to take on a daily basis.

This should be common sense, people. The real question is why does the FDA allow this? Is there a NWO agenda to dumb down the future generations by getting everyone hooked on amphetamines?



posted on Jul, 18 2008 @ 11:00 PM
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Originally posted by italkyoulistenThe real question is why does the FDA allow this? Is there a NWO agenda to dumb down the future generations by getting everyone hooked on amphetamines?


I think the answer is simple greed. The pharma companies make a lot of money off of it and they rule the FDA.

Why is it that drugs are cheaper in Canada when many of those drugs are produced by American companies? Why is it our old people can barely afford their medicines and afford to eat too?

Because Canada has negotiated bulk discount rates for the drugs they buy from U.S. companies, yet our own government does NOT negotiate anything because it would cut into the pharma profit margins. Its pure greed.

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posted on Jul, 19 2008 @ 10:33 AM
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Canada actually banned Adderall for a while until I think 2006 that they allowed it again. I think it is just cheaper there.. for now. And are you saying that Canadians are somehow more moral and less greedy than Americans? or any other people for that matter?

I still believe that this may tie into the NWO as the FDA (as well as the WHO and World Bank) is known to support certain NWO supranational corporations such as Monsanto in their quest for monopoly.

Look up Monsanto and their monopoly over our food supplies. About 70%-90% of all crops out there that are grown from seeds are grown from Monsanto's genetically modified seeds depending on the product. Bovine growth hormone comes from them and they are currently gaining monopoly over the worlds water supply. And none of this was possible without the FDA, the WHO, and the World Bank.

Although it could simply be just greed, the FDA has intimate connections with NWO agendas. Such as Codex Alimentarius.



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