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Organic Portals and Hyperdimensional Attacks - Spotting the energy thieves amongst us.

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posted on Jul, 22 2008 @ 08:48 PM
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There greatest lie is not "The Devil doesn't exist", but that "this world is our home". We are buried deep in varying densities of the mix of "Spirit" and "Matter". The Devil is not in hell but high, high up in the regions where there is little matter and much spirit. "Mind" is his instrument and we are all constantly being suggested one thought, or another. Maya or Illusion suggests one form or another to seduce us. Their agents are many, many, many. Recognizing where we are is the first real step towards true salvation. The old pseudo religions are the devils own and focusing on social qualities and are ignorant of the truth or the solutions. We are all being attacked by energy vampires that live off our responses. This is the horrible truth and reality of life in matter. It always has been and always will be. But the good news is that our spirits are "Spirit" our home is in the purely spiritual and the Supreme Being is all merciful, wanting only for us to be fully conscious in the highest intensity of pure spirituality we can attain. For this reason we where sent into matter. All that is happening is ultimately merciful and leading us to break our attachments to the lies of the mind and matter. The Supreme Being manifested approximately 150 years ago and began the formal evacuation of spirits from matter. The Devil is trying in every way to undermine that effort. He can, he will try but he is never in control. The Supreme Being holds all the cards. Ultimately, what the devil does is simply facilitate the exhaustion of our impurities that brought us here. As many are now purified, the evacuation is underway. There are about 250,000 years remaining for the entire creations of matter and all the spirits to be taken back, mercifully, when they are ready. Some now, some soon, some later as each individual becomes fit. I tell you, sincerely, the Supreme Being walks among us and when we become ready nothing can prevent us from meeting him here and within. The human body is so creates as to make this possible. It is for this reason that humans come under so much attack. The Devil does not want his regions depopulated.




posted on Jul, 22 2008 @ 09:06 PM
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Originally posted by ReelView
There greatest lie is not "The Devil doesn't exist", but that "this world is our home". We are buried deep in varying densities of the mix of "Spirit" and "Matter". The Devil is not in hell but high, high up in the regions where there is little matter and much spirit. "Mind" is his instrument and we are all constantly being suggested one thought, or another. Maya or Illusion suggests one form or another to seduce us. Their agents are many, many, many. Recognizing where we are is the first real step towards true salvation. The old pseudo religions are the devils own and focusing on social qualities and are ignorant of the truth or the solutions. We are all being attacked by energy vampires that live off our responses. This is the horrible truth and reality of life in matter. It always has been and always will be. But the good news is that our spirits are "Spirit" our home is in the purely spiritual and the Supreme Being is all merciful, wanting only for us to be fully conscious in the highest intensity of pure spirituality we can attain. For this reason we where sent into matter. All that is happening is ultimately merciful and leading us to break our attachments to the lies of the mind and matter. The Supreme Being manifested approximately 150 years ago and began the formal evacuation of spirits from matter. The Devil is trying in every way to undermine that effort. He can, he will try but he is never in control. The Supreme Being holds all the cards. Ultimately, what the devil does is simply facilitate the exhaustion of our impurities that brought us here. As many are now purified, the evacuation is underway. There are about 250,000 years remaining for the entire creations of matter and all the spirits to be taken back, mercifully, when they are ready. Some now, some soon, some later as each individual becomes fit. I tell you, sincerely, the Supreme Being walks among us and when we become ready nothing can prevent us from meeting him here and within. The human body is so creates as to make this possible. It is for this reason that humans come under so much attack. The Devil does not want his regions depopulated.


Could you break that into paragraphs so it is easier to read please?



posted on Jul, 23 2008 @ 08:16 AM
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Originally posted by ReelView
The Supreme Being holds all the cards. Ultimately, what the devil does is simply facilitate the exhaustion of our impurities that brought us here. As many are now purified, the evacuation is underway.


Thanks, who do you consider God incarnated as 150 years ago? Just interested. Thanks for your post.



posted on Jul, 23 2008 @ 08:20 AM
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angryjessman , this had nothing to do with aspergers or autism. I don't think anyone is saying that it has. In fact it is probably true that if you have aspergers, given that there are some alternative explanations for causes of it. I would suggest that perhaps you don't come into the bracket of people that these documents relate to. I know someone with aspergers.

Thanks for your post.



posted on Jul, 23 2008 @ 08:25 AM
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I am one of the guys who first expreienced this while under the influence of MDMA. I was not at a rave but at a house parrty where everyone was using. After the first time, I noticed it everytime after and disliked it so much i stoped using. By then i didn't need to use to see it anymore. While they would do it i would feel panic and horror, which was way worse while under the enfluence. Perhaps that is why people notice it in that type of situation more, perhaps it is easier for them to steal from someone in an open emotional type state. I but durring the attack i did not feel drained, i felt terror. I questioned my sanity after that for 2 1/2 years, the worst in my life. I also got the impression that when people would do it, they would communicate with each other in the room. They would have normal converstations but it was like they were coded or that their body language or just the vibes from them in general, it was clear they were communicating in some manner that i couldn't quite understand. Perhaps it was just me misinterperating the situation because of the terror that i felt while they were doing it, i'm not sure.

Also, the oragnic portal thing and group soul stuff, I think it is a streach. I can see how someone would think group soul because of the way they communicate. But as far as them being under infulence by anythign other than their own desires, i compleatly disagree. i think that most of them are just bad people and know how to do it and compleatly enjoy it. Other do it but are not consious of it. Like in the celestine prophecy, the way they would have people who took others energy without purposly doing it, or perhaps that is how all of them are and when you see it, it is hard to understand that they are not doing it intentionally, because of the wa it makes you feel.

I hope that this encourages the topic to move on and more theories as to what is happening and to have oter with simalar expreience to share theirs. i am curious to hear from people who first notice under the influence and see if there are similarties and if it possibly just some sort of drug psychosis or if it is something else.

-not



posted on Jul, 23 2008 @ 10:33 AM
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I don't normally post, but I felt compelled to reply to your post as I to had a very similar experience on several occasions, raveing in the early 90's at Spiral tribe/5 Alive events, but didn't realize what exactly was going on, I think if you add man made chemical's into the mix its' going to be that much easier to manipulate people/minds. I avoid these type of events now as they spook me out.

Great post and thank you.



posted on Jul, 23 2008 @ 01:09 PM
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This has devolved into a bit too much paranoid fantasy stuff. Next you'll have us seeing these aliens everywhere, with or without drugs!



[edit on 23-7-2008 by GriffinRD]



posted on Jul, 23 2008 @ 03:42 PM
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Hyperdimentional puppetry is at the very base of the concept of organic portals.

It has been infused through the pride of certain people in the belief of holding a certain 'truth' that would set them apart from humanity.

And truth is but only a cultural value.

What this concept does in effect is steer attention of the individual away from the possibility of being host to internal influences and to project a consciousness of blame against the environment.

It precludes the eye from turning itself against itself, since assuredly an individual would not think of himself as an 'organic portal', so the fault must be in somebody else then.

Why is it so easy to believe such baseless concepts if not simply because they give a false sense of identity and reinforce the idea of being all-right, while what is wrong is always located outside one's own turf?

The concept of organic portal comes directly from the vampires themselves who are hosted by the brain's radio abilities. To fall prey to such oncepts is to be directly influenced into believing into a trap that puts an end to discovering the nature of reality, the nature of the multidimentionality of the mind, and the nature of those agents of shadow who use intellectual and spiritual pride as a vector. And this vector is the mind gate that should normally connect the incarnated entity with his source but that has been highjacked by forces that oppose freedom of the mind. Freedom of the mind would put an end to their ability to manipulate and influence and feed upon man's energy.

This feeding is not from this world but from beyond and is directly tied to the lack of a real identity, an unfinished person. And the telltale sign of such a state of mind is the ability to believe. No matter what the subject of the belief may be. Because believing is to willfully submit oneself to the authority of someone or something else.

The source of energy vampirism is within each individual so long as their consciousness is based on a psychological model. There is no such thing as a division between organic portal and non organic portal humanities.

The source of life is the spirit and not the soul. The soul is a temporary interface that will be replaced in the next evolution by another energy structure, call it a body, capable of sustaining the vast energies that are at the source of an individual's consciousness. In the mean time, we are talking about a work in progress, and this is the cause for the lack of real identity that allows an individual to either think or believe.

This ability to think or believe stems from the division between the incarnate and his reality whose energy cannot be contained within mortality. The segragated human entity therefore becomes cut off from the source of his life while being reduced to accumulate memory for the advancement of his soul, and of course to rationalize it.

And this rationalization gives credibility to the oddities that become his belief system. But a belief is just that; a belief. And beliefs are perfectly structured to endoctrinate and take the individual away from what really lies behind the veil.

If beliefs had any hold on reality whatsoever, humanity would have been free from ignorance long ago.

So, when an endoctrinating believer says something like 'knowledge protects', one has to wonder what the agenda truly is behind the system he is trying to pass along as 'truth'. And I won't even blame the carrier of such fallacy as such, since ignorance leads to belief that becomes knowledge by means of intellectual categorial analysis. He categorizes and compares memories, the very base of experimental consciousness, bypassing totally real consciousness. And this scheme will remain so long as the individual takes himself seriously, even though he does not really know anything but can only recognize that he was already taught and feels compelled to repeat until a sufficient critical mass is achieved and gives popular credibility to the falsity.



posted on Jul, 24 2008 @ 08:25 AM
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Originally posted by unbeliever
This ability to think or believe stems from the division between the incarnate and his reality whose energy cannot be contained within mortality. The segragated human entity therefore becomes cut off from the source of his life while being reduced to accumulate memory for the advancement of his soul, and of course to rationalize it.


To enter into 3rd dimension is to be cut-off generally. It is possible to reconnect with the source whilst materially clothed.



And this rationalization gives credibility to the oddities that become his belief system. But a belief is just that; a belief. And beliefs are perfectly structured to endoctrinate and take the individual away from what really lies behind the veil.

If beliefs had any hold on reality whatsoever, humanity would have been free from ignorance long ago.


Best we detect the source of the lies and usurpation then isn't it, which is what has been started on this thread. You might enjoy reading the links I've posted throughout this thread, or even this thread.



So, when an endoctrinating believer says something like 'knowledge protects', one has to wonder what the agenda truly is behind the system he is trying to pass along as 'truth'. And I won't even blame the carrier of such fallacy as such, since ignorance leads to belief that becomes knowledge by means of intellectual categorial analysis. He categorizes and compares memories, the very base of experimental consciousness, bypassing totally real consciousness. And this scheme will remain so long as the individual takes himself seriously, even though he does not really know anything but can only recognize that he was already taught


Your post seems very logical, emotionally cold, but logical. But here is the rub, connection to God's energy, infinite awareness, infinite knowledge and infinite love is obtainable through the heart. There is no need to read books or accumulate knowledge once connected in this way. However, once here, in 3d, persons are stopped from connecting by so many ill-natured beings/forces they need to educate themselves. Sorry to debunk your theory of collected information and intellectual analysis. But someone who has felt the christ energy first hand wouldn't have made your comments. And as for the soul being nothing more than some kind of battery for a vehicle? The soul is pure and all powerful, most of the human readership of ATS have the power to end the entire universal creation with just a thought, they just don't know or realise it yet. You make many assumptions, based on mental speculation as to my purpose. I understand I am hard to read, and that must drive the 4d sts entities wild looking for a way in to attack. After all, how can you attack an ego that barely exists..But to clarify for some who will never know. God is love. Thanks for your post. Take care.



posted on Jul, 24 2008 @ 02:44 PM
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Go on and believe what you will, including Ouija board obtained information. That is part of your experience.

Belief cannot debunk anything but it will reinforce a person's view of his reality.

The ego is over 95% insecurity. It has no real identity. It is the result of an experiment in order to create a new unit of consciousness that will be one day sturdy enough to receive the identity of the reality behind its creation.

This insecurity forces him to believe anything that flatters his hope of being saved, of being chosen, and so forth.

The mind is not what you believe.

Organic portals, beings from the future being us, aliens using ouija boards to communicate, people sitting in lotus position waiting to be enlightened. All of this is part of the devolutive experience of humanity.

You speak of the Nazareen. And you believe that you must be the little creature and that therefore you then become an ally to this great spirit. But that is self defeating. An ally cannot be a groveler. And certainly not what you refer to as a god. It was said that one day, certain men would do wonders that even go beyond those achieved by the Nazareen himself. And you think that this is a free gift? You just need to grovel and then something is owed to you?

Ignorance equals the lack of identity and lack of identity equals the level of insecurity because it is the equivalent of the lack of reality. And you cannot assess the reality behind the Nazareen from behind the veil of an unreal psychological pattern that only serves to create temporary experience.



posted on Jul, 24 2008 @ 11:41 PM
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posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 09:20 AM
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Originally posted by unbeliever
You speak of the Nazareen. And you believe that you must be the little creature and that therefore you then become an ally to this great spirit. But that is self defeating. An ally cannot be a groveler. And certainly not what you refer to as a god. It was said that one day, certain men would do wonders that even go beyond those achieved by the Nazareen himself. And you think that this is a free gift? You just need to grovel and then something is owed to you?

Ignorance equals the lack of identity and lack of identity equals the level of insecurity because it is the equivalent of the lack of reality. And you cannot assess the reality behind the Nazareen from behind the veil of an unreal psychological pattern that only serves to create temporary experience.


"the Nazareen"? no offence but that is just a tad overdramatic don't you think? Are you trying to appear like someone off-world or have you been watching The Omen films lately? Firstly I never said I was a Christian. Secondly I never mentioned Jesus. I merely mentioned the christ energy, it is a related but completely seperate concept. If you reply again, let me know what you think of the freemasons... Best Wishes.



posted on Aug, 8 2008 @ 12:15 AM
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To the Op *
I find it amazing that almost all of these principles I have integrated into my life.

To the Fleabit
I have found truth in the Secret.

I dare anyone to do what is suggested at one point in the movie. Which is to write down one person who you have difficulties with and each day for 30 days write down one positive thing you can thank that person for. As for me I chose one of my brothers who I had the most difficult time, no matter what. I wasnt sure I could find even 30 so chose one per day. But even that first day I found three.

Each day as I wrote on my little list and I found our relationship improved. Maybe I expected it (which I was doubtful at first) or maybe it just plain works.

The idea of projecting positive emotions and energy, for me, cannot be dismissed.

I am currently working on much larger list that encompasses not only friends and family but my pets (ok silly), and neighbors or others that I suddenly see as important to a healthy life.

My 2 cents - I would be curious to see if others tried this and found similar results.

[edit on 8/8/08 by rezial666]



posted on Aug, 8 2008 @ 05:40 AM
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Originally posted by rezial666
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I am currently working on much larger list that encompasses not only friends and family but my pets (ok silly), and neighbors or others that I suddenly see as important to a healthy life.


I don't think it's silly at all. I am a firm believer and practicioner of animal telepathy. Give it a go? Always a pleasure to meet an animal lover. Best Wishes.



posted on Aug, 9 2008 @ 03:16 PM
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thanks - I have been nicknamed "Kim Doolittle" ! Apparently animals I attract and when in need call me to save the little ones. LOL

Gotta love em even when they are a "baaad baby".



posted on Aug, 9 2008 @ 03:18 PM
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oh and by the way - i learned a few new ones



posted on Aug, 9 2008 @ 03:32 PM
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Sounds very dear to my "heart"... You Believe.. Why then would one try to debunk any other's "observance of time" in this infininte or finite "fringe" _________________ I'll let u fill in the blanks since by your words of "intent" you obviously "reserve" the right.

Truth stands alone. Without a gun or knife... With no one holding his hand... With no crutch or bandage. He can be buried and twisted... Even used to manipulate... But, alas, He stands without help... Strong. Tall. Ever Present. Waiting only for one of true of intent ... To See. And Free...

[edit on 8/9/08 by rezial666]



posted on Aug, 9 2008 @ 03:51 PM
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Absolutely facinating. While I don't have time to read the whole thread, nor the whole source, I feel I need to post so I can easily locate this later. Also, posting will help bring this on the front page so maybe it can replace some of the trolling, flame baiting nonsense that seems to permiate ATS so aggressively.

The subject definately touches a nerve though. I have seemed to notice that there are two types of people. I can't speculate or ponder right now because I'm late...


peace



posted on Aug, 10 2008 @ 11:15 AM
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Originally posted by rezial666
thanks - I have been nicknamed "Kim Doolittle" ! Apparently animals I attract and when in need call me to save the little ones. LOL

Gotta love em even when they are a "baaad baby".


Thats really nice.
You must be emitting a lot of love energy for them to trust you. I like it when wild animals feel safe enough to eat from my hand, even swans/geese (beaks like blunt nutcrackers, need fast fingers :p). They have the ability to heal, I am sure.

Thanks, take care.



posted on Aug, 10 2008 @ 11:19 AM
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Originally posted by Sunsetspawn
Absolutely facinating. While I don't have time to read the whole thread, nor the whole source, I feel I need to post so I can easily locate this later. Also, posting will help bring this on the front page so maybe it can replace some of the trolling, flame baiting nonsense that seems to permiate ATS so aggressively.

The subject definately touches a nerve though. I have seemed to notice that there are two types of people. I can't speculate or ponder right now because I'm late...


peace


Yes this thread is a bit of a monster read, I can recommend downloading the fringe notes PDF linked on the front page. It makes for easy desktop reading. I've also left a lot of extra relevant fringe information throughout this thread, I hope you get the chance to enjoy it.

Peace to you also, best wishes



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