Bravo TrueLight! You truely live up to your name.

You've managed to take all my thoughts and feelings on why some people are the way they are, why negativity is forced upon us and some people revel in it (when the same people sometimes do not), why war prevails and who is really really in charge, into one very interesting post. As well as touching on our interdimensional position in the world that we know so little about.

Welcome to ATS. You got a star, a flag and an addition to my friends list for your efforts

very good post op, I have always suspected this to be the reason why there are wars, not only are we feeding these entities, but it looks like we also feeding aliens as well (on top of bodily fluids etc..) It looks like all we are cattle only worst, we slaugter ourselves... cows arent stupid enough to do this it seems we are.... I beleive the role that the illuminati\freemasons have in all of this not only are they puppets but they also have learned to feed on these negative emotions thru rituals... starred and flagged op.

Also, when I went through my 'awakening' (as I like to call it) I did notice a huge change in myself. I'm not sure if others picked it up, but I became much more in control of my feeling and emotions. I think it's like any illusion. Once you see the trick behind it, you can't go back to seeing the illusion again.

What you write is very, very interesting. The way you have put it together, I can believe it, as "something" is this going on in my city! "People are strange", and, some are getting stranger, just as you describe. Although I do tell myself that 'Paranoia is gonna destroy ya'!
'nuff said

Well I guess it is even more complex since there indeed are real "people" (I have encountered them) who can steal your energy and lust for life.

Because they indeed feed themselves on your misery.

Thankfully to Buddhism, reading, spiritual healing and enlightenment I have been able to build up a mental and moral wall to those.

What are they? Demons? Hybrids?

Starred and Flagged.

Grey Magic.

Thank you all very much for the kind comments. I am glad this post is already reaching its intended audience and hope that it this information becomes as useful to you guys as it has been to me. I am going to log out now. However, if anyone wants to leave me a post in my absence, to chat about this information, then feel free.

Best Wishes.

Awesome post, starred! I too have encountered various people who were definitely doing something, no matter if it was on a conscious level or not.

June last year I had an encounter that was sooo freaky. My father and I had just sat down on a seat in a local train when what looked like an ordinary girl of ~20 yrs old sat down on the seat in front of me, which faced my way.

She felt 'cold' and somehow I wondered if she has been abused in the past or so (I do have my empathic moments.. )

I swear that suddenly she just stared at me with this bizarre look. Ultimately she has done this for 20 minutes straight! As far as I can recall, she did this without blinking or blinking extremely rarely... like she was in a trance, almost like this smiley without the eyes becoming bigger/smaller all the time:

Initially I was just looking outside, not really paying attention to her.. but I noticed her odd behavior in my peripheral vision. Within seconds I knew that this was not an ordinary encounter and I could feel my energy shift. I know a little bit about the human energy system, so I tried to prevent her from whatever she was doing by crossing my ankles and connecting the tips of my index fingers and thumbs and also visualizing a shield around me.

However within 15 seconds I was having significant heart palpitations and those lasted the entire trip.

All this time she was actively trying to get eye contact with me by doing small movements and things to attract my intention. Somehow I just 'knew' that if I would make eye contact with here, "it would be over with me".. I really had to fight to keep ignoring her, despite feeling very much uncomfortable.

I was very very glad when I arrived at the next train station where I had to get out. My father even said a few seconds later: "wow! what kind of a freak was that.. did you notice?". ..

For weeks I was actually afraid for another encounter and I have been carefully monitoring everyone who was about to step onboard of that train. No kidding.

When I later told this story to a friend, she said something along the lines of: "They always go after those who shine brightest". I just took that as a huge compliment and I'm far more alert now to what other people are doing energetically. Still learning though!

What an excellent thread.

I have put up several threads on this subject, but yours is most eloquent.

We truly are living in a true-life Matrix. Most are unaware that they are being guided into certain thought processes and actions.

The Main Stream Media is the most potent, wide-spread WEAPON used to utilize these mind-warfare techniques, and work well they have.

Once you "detach" from the system, it is almost surreal to see the world through those new eyes...


Starring and flagging this mutha!!!

Originally posted by TrueLight
A while back I stumbled accross some information which resonated highly with me. It explains how some people engage others in drawn out arguments and so forth simply for the purpose of draining their energy. We all know people like this. They are generally referred to as emotional vampires or similar, but that is just the tip of the iceberg....

The thesis is the following:
The real force behind the irritant is the hyperdimensional entities using less aware people like puppets, implanting ideas on a level of frequency that the recipient is not aware that their emotional responses are being triggered by an outside force.

The outside force you are describing is essentially discarnate communities or Group Entities that are, at best, only basically spiritual, and, at worst, on a path of sadistic actions to innocents.

Evil contains the seeds of its own destruction.

Originally posted by TrueLight
But what kind of persons could be affected by this extra dimensional puppetry? This is where we come to the subject of Organic Portals. Organic Portals are humans who, while having consciousness, belong to a group soul, like animals. This makes them more susceptible to usage by outside forces. Individually souled humans may also be used in this way , unless they actually wake up.

The morally corrupt are the most susceptible to falling under the influence and being used in this manner.

Originally posted by TrueLight
The difference of course is that the energy being harvested is negative emotional energy. Rather than being a human battery, you are being farmed for your soul energy. If you have recently woken up , you may find relatives or close friends starting to behave in a way you find distasteful. The thesis is that they are merely trying to stop your awareness. If no one is fighting wars or having arguments, these entities that are in control will suffer greatly and ultimately starve to death.

There are and always will be conflicts, in the flesh and in the Spirit.

What ultimately stops Group Entities is their retrogression or weakening in The Light through unethical activities. Eventually they shrink their consciousness down to the point of not being able to combine their soul energies any longer. In the traditional Seven Plane paradigm, this occurs on the Second Plane, while Group Entities typically reside on the Fourth Plane.

Originally posted by TrueLight
The points about human energy being a valuable food source is not new information. This is also, I believe why wars are staged, the release of negative human energy is said to be so great that this beings are in an almost orgasmic state. The more pain the better they like it. These are the same beings behind a lot of this Illumati action we have been seeing. They give some benefits to the higher ups. The higher ups pay them with lives, yours.

I agree that the lower elements (on both sides of the spectrum) find pleasure through sadism.

Originally posted by TrueLight
I hope some of this resonates with the readership, personally I found it a great benefit to be able to detect who was attempting to "wind me up" for no good reason. And also a benefit as to protect against such attacks. While detected who was acting like a STS (Service to Self) or a STO (Service to Others) being. These expressions are used, I believe, as an alternative to the classic "Good" and "Evil" which for the most part, is subjective.

Good and evil are not subjective, but absolute. But for most people, the more politically correct terms (which steer away from a religious context) is, as you stated, STS versus STO.

Originally posted by TrueLight
For those having difficulty with the term "Matrix". You will find that the illusory nature of the world is discussed as far back as the Holy Vedas(Hindu Texts) some 5000 years ago. In these texts the word Maya is used. From this point, you can assume that the terms Matrix and Maya are interchangable. The fact that the world is an illusion is also suggested to be one of the very most high secrets of Freemasonry.

Thank you for reading. This was my first topic post. Hello ATS..!

Cogent post and well written.

[edit on 17-7-2008 by Paul_Richard]

i can totally see people in my own life that fall into the "organic portal" philosophy that montalk.com talks about. I have certain family memebers that are not happy unless there is an escalation towards anger and hostility at a family event. it is almost as if they are not satisfied until most others around them are upset, unhappy, or devastated by their actions.

great post

star and flag

A curious thing hapened last night. This topic disappeared from view in the Aliens & UFO section on this board. I should say, at least on my screen, and someone else I had asked to check (independently) could also not find it. Later on in the evening I contacted a moderator to ask if there was a glitch. They explained that the topic was showing fine on their screen. And now this morning this post has returned in the topic list. Wether this was just a regional thing (as I live in the UK) I have no idea. However this wouldn't be the first time I have experienced "spooky" goings on. Perhaps someone is/was upset that this information had been posted/linked to. Or perhaps the ATS board is a little flaky. Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony.

Originally posted by Nammu
Also, when I went through my 'awakening' (as I like to call it) I did notice a huge change in myself. I'm not sure if others picked it up, but I became much more in control of my feeling and emotions. I think it's like any illusion. Once you see the trick behind it, you can't go back to seeing the illusion again.

I can relate to that. One explanation is that all of life is a dream. While what we call our dream states is a reasonably free flowing and creative experience, the waking dream is almost the complete opposite. In theory what we are experiencing during the waking state is a collective dream. It is less manipulable because our actions and abilities are restricted by other people's belief systems. This I think is the basis for the increase in mainstream media relating to super-abilities etc. Once that information is subconsciously accepted by the collective the attainment of these abilities may become much easier. However, if someone, as you rightly mention goes through a full "awakening" they then have the oppurtunity, to let go of this nonsense of collective reality, and create their own. Which the rest then adhere to. The awake people on the forum are creating the world that they want to see, many more people need to wake up to achieve critical mass, but it is going to happen. Nice comment Nammu, thank you sir.

Regards.

Originally posted by thefreepatriot
very good post op, I have always suspected this to be the reason why there are wars, not only are we feeding these entities, but it looks like we also feeding aliens as well (on top of bodily fluids etc..) It looks like all we are cattle only worst, we slaugter ourselves... cows arent stupid enough to do this it seems we are.... I beleive the role that the illuminati\freemasons have in all of this not only are they puppets but they also have learned to feed on these negative emotions thru rituals... starred and flagged op.

Thank you for your post. I find it interesting that you mention cows. I think that what you mention may the be the real reason Hindu's consider cows holy. In as much as that it is possible that in ancient times there was an awareness that humans were themselves cattle, and therefore to avoid karmic reactions upon themselves decided to vehemently adhere to the instructions in their scriptures as regards cow protection. It would make sense that if we don't want higher and "seemingly" more powerful (for now at least) entities to abuse us we should possibly consider entertaining the idea of ethical treatment of our little furry friends. Thank you for your comment, you reminded me of these points.

Regards.

Originally posted by secretnasaman
What you write is very, very interesting. The way you have put it together, I can believe it, as "something" is this going on in my city! "People are strange", and, some are getting stranger, just as you describe. Although I do tell myself that 'Paranoia is gonna destroy ya'!
'nuff said

You mention people becomming stranger in your city. I have also witnessed similar. I have had people I don't know glare at me for no good reason, people in cars drive by and shout, for no good reason. These are the things you have to face when you wake up. The "Matrix" uses these people to launch attacks on you, don't blame the people themselves, they are just puppets. Just be aware that (for example) the person who was rude to you in the shop, who gave you a nasty look, was not in full control of their own thoughts. And when you look into these people's eyes, you are looking directly into the eyes of the Matrix control system. When you look into their eyes, you are directly looking at their hyperdimensional usurpers. As an analogy, just like if you were staring into a police CCTV camera. Thanks for the comment.