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posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 08:18 PM
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Originally posted by undo


As a human mother i'm not programmed to deal with weakness in this fashion. I'm programmed to encourage stronger areas to flourish, to compensate for weakness in another area, to fix booboos, to inspire. To accept the things I can't change, to change the things i can, and the wisdom to know the difference. I like my solution better.


nice avoidance. i have to say undo, i really do appreciate your contributions. opposing without being rude about it and openminded enough to still be reading these.
however, i think the idea posed was to look at nature. if you want to go the motherly route, the i really suggest you look at nature. see how the mother lion cares for her cubs. i will give you a hint, it has to do with killing the weaked of something to make sure that her children can eat.




posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 08:23 PM
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Originally posted by Equinox99



There are many weak animals. The difference is they carry little traits that help them along the way. Turtles are weak creatures yet they have lived longer then us. How has that affected them?



how? well you miss the point, the difference between a perceived weaker species and what is an actually weaker animal. if a great white is hunting sea turtles, guess which one it goes for? the weakest among them. say it with me now...the weakest...among....them

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I have no masters. I only serve God.



are there any christians here that do not contradict themselves? i have no masters i serve only god? isnt that at least one master or is counting a big no no too?



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 08:26 PM
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Originally posted by Equinox99


If you believe what the op says then what this means is that all the wars fought were sponsored by the elite.


interesting, so based on what someone else says they believe, you say that means that i have stated that all wars were sponsored by the elite? where the hell did i say that? for that matter, where do you get that frm anything you replied to either? i think that you completely missed his point.



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 08:28 PM
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oh i know but i'm not a lion

some kids have zits, some don't

i'm handicapped, but i can paint, draw, play 2 musical instruments,
write books, stories, poetry, and dance. i have a plethora of ancient culture data in my head.
i was on the dean's list and president's list in college, where i was a pre-med student (planned on being a doctor of natural medicine) and know a good bit about herbs and natural remedies.
however, if you asked me to run a block down to the corner and hit the guy who just stole your tires over the head with a tire iron, i wouldn't make it past the second house on the way (not to mention, i wouldn't hit the guy over the head. .. i'd probably walk and try to find a way to get your tires back without violence). my survival skills are different than yours, apparently. doesn't mean they don't work, just means they're different.



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 08:29 PM
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Originally posted by undo



1. How many wars have been fought in the name of satan?


All of 'em.

Certainly not in the name of Jesus since his solution to violence was to turn the other cheek. Now who's paradigm does getting revenge and survival of the fittest fit more precisely into ? Certainly not the turn the other cheek guy.


the question was not "how many wars have been fought in accordance wit h jesus teachings?" it was wars in his name and there have been many. we all know the war we are in now, G.W. said himself god told him to do it, but the list of wars in the name of god or christianity goes wayyyy back. im still waiting for the list of wars in satan's name
that is in NAME. not in the likeness of, not style of, NAME OF.



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 08:37 PM
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Originally posted by Young minded old soul
reply to post by re22666
 



I know, I know no one line answers, but I got to.

If the "Church" is wrong and the opposite " Satanism " ( I'd rather call it naturalism " ) is right. Then why not try to beat the truth down, it's what they do best! Right????



a satanist is more concerned with ending each day gratified in his deeds and indulgences. it is usually of little use to fight down anyone else. i guess satanism somehow is in opposition the the church but it is not vice/veras. there is no need to conver, recruit, takeover, or destroy. people that would so easily hand jimmy swaggart money to watch him pretend to cry and slap actors in the forhead to somehow get closer to a city of gold and jewels because you lived a life lacking greed? are the kind of people that make good kindling. not good members.



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 08:39 PM
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Originally posted by Skyfloating
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I must have phrased my comment wrongly, you misunderstood it. I´m sending you a U2U to clarify because the comment is intended towards you and your opening post specifically.


[edit on 17-7-2008 by Skyfloating]


i would like to clarify that i got what skyfloating meant, i have no beef whatsoever there. i appreciate someone saying what i thought i would have said in my defense for me but we were both misunderstanding.



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 08:42 PM
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Originally posted by Equinox99


Then look no further to your own fellow people. I have never met you nor have I judged you but people ruin it for Satanism. People ruin it for Christianity and there is more hate spewing towards Christianity then Satanism. When Satanists such as XLucifer start saying 2/3 must die how does that reflect towards Satanism?



you did judge me, quite literally and explicitly. i know people ruin it for things. i know everything you just said. none of that addresses the question posesd in the first post but thankds for playing. 3 more cents and i get a gumball. sour apple.



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 08:46 PM
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Originally posted by undo

Originally posted by re22666

you mean like say...thousands of Catholic priests raping young boys? so you agree with me it is time to charge the entire catholic church as a pedophile cult?
i mean what observations are you speaking of? satanic rituals? do you see them? often?
besides that...my thread is not about the nature of satanism. it is about people like you that say negative things about it based on absoloutely NOTHING!!!!!!!!


Well before we could charge the catholic church with being a pedophile cult, we'd have to backtrack to the grecian and roman empires, in which pederasty was a normal and in many cases, preferred form of sexual erm....expression.
en.wikipedia.org... in truth, it was a pagan social construct before it was a catholic one. seems to me that some of the pederastic priests are just generational from prior ones back to the days of pagan rome. a tradition that just never stopped all these millenia.

not that i'm condoning it, i'm just pointing out that their behavior on such topics originated in rome, and before that greece and at the time, was considered normal and many cases, preferable, which just goes to show ya, social mores are rubbery blobs of playdoh



lol, that is awesome. ok let me get this straight. some nut says some "satanists" did some bad stuff so the whole religion is evil.
i ask if bad priests make the whole religion evil
and you say...well it is a precedent?
so what?
what is your point?
who asked for a history lesson
we can have one any word in any post. lost of things that are wrong today have long histories.
i asked if a few people who sin and say they are for satan and that just means that satanism is what they are
then why isnt catholicism what those priests are? why not be fair?
must be a conspiracy?



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 08:48 PM
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Originally posted by undo
reply to post by re22666
 


oh i know but i'm not a lion

some kids have zits, some don't

i'm handicapped, but i can paint, draw, play 2 musical instruments,
write books, stories, poetry, and dance. i have a plethora of ancient culture data in my head.
i was on the dean's list and president's list in college, where i was a pre-med student (planned on being a doctor of natural medicine) and know a good bit about herbs and natural remedies.
however, if you asked me to run a block down to the corner and hit the guy who just stole your tires over the head with a tire iron, i wouldn't make it past the second house on the way (not to mention, i wouldn't hit the guy over the head. .. i'd probably walk and try to find a way to get your tires back without violence). my survival skills are different than yours, apparently. doesn't mean they don't work, just means they're different.

how very nice for you
sounds like you want me to both play the violin as well as bow to your achievement. let me introduce you to a young man born heart outside. how about my nephew that at 13 drools on himself in bed all day, i know some folks with all kinds of handicaps. many are doing just fine. not all though. but when the shortages come, when the end comes, the engineered mass murder, i will send every invalid and mental incapacitate straight to you and you can paint them a pretty picture while you die trying to save them.



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 08:50 PM
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Originally posted by XcLuciFer


This illustrates the reason Humans have not progressed, and continues to repeat the same fundamental mistakes. It has always been some one elses fault! Humans are innocent and bare no responsiblility for the condition they find them selves in. I embrase what is coming, it truly is long over due!

[edit on 7/17/2008 by XcLuciFer]


Oh we've progressed all right, yeah we have progressed so far into the wrong direction it's no wonder why people like you see it as "progress" at all.


I embrase what is coming, it truly is long over due!


Just pray that whats coming, will embrace YOU.




Humans are innocent and bare no responsiblility for the condition they find them selves in.


Yeah and is why Jesus said, "Forgive them father, for they know NOT (get that?) what they do.

It is also why we will continue to not know what we do for we are not sinners BECAUSE we sin,, We sin because we ARE sinners.

It is our nature to be evil, it is easier to destroy than to build.
easier to spread gossip than seek truth.

easier to believe in the philosophy of man than seek the wisdom of God

easier to believe in Science than the infinite knowledge of God

easier to blame someone else than to be held accountable

Easier to say we are right than to admit we are wrong

Easier to do what feels good than to do what is right

easier to believe in nothing than to believe in God

easier to do what we want than to do Gods will

easier to offer excuses than to be responsible

easier to think we are nothing,,

than it is to be more

than we are

- Con

Christianity doing more to ensure our survival in this life


and beyond since the day of the Cross









[edit on 17-7-2008 by Conspiriology]



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 09:06 PM
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don't worry. jesus will fill you in on which ones were not actually about him at all (pretty much all of them lol). you can say you're going to battle in the name of swiss cheese but doesn't mean it really has anything to do with swiss cheese.



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 09:07 PM
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okay, thanks!
i'll be in good company.



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 09:12 PM
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Its because Satan is all about materialism, greed, worship of money and many other negative anti-spiritual traits. Some attribute it to Christians Satanism. Its not the real reason imho.

Look up the meaning of the Devil card in the Tarot. It is negative energy.

Edit to add: Think of it this way. If you took a monkey and raised its intelligence to that of a human it would act like a CEO of a big corporation or a banker or any other greedy fat cat. Its our animal side, the one with an undeveloped "new soul". This is why intelligent people that run the world are so careless. Intelligence and aggression mixed with greed and a young soul makes for a great Hitler type.

[edit on 17-7-2008 by LoneGunMan]



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 09:26 PM
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You are taking my posts out of context. If you are going to quote me then quote the whole post please. I never judged you, if you are a Satanist then that is fine by me. I never went to any post and derailed it by making fun of you. I simply came here to defend my beliefs against XLucifer. I never meant for this to turn out this way but I never attacked you.

Science can take us far. So why can't the weak and the strong get a long? You must shed the old way of life and accept we are all equal. Why should we kill off 2/3 of the planet so the 1/3 of the rich can survive. We can easily all work together to achieve greatness and prosperity. The elite make it difficult.

Think about this for a second. If everyone learned to work together against each other how fast would we move forward.

As I stated before I have not judged you. You could be a great guy I do not know. However if you believe what XLucifer believes then it would mean you are on a evil path. 2/3 will not be destroyed easily, it will be through wars, gangs, drugs, famine and diseases. Unlike some people, I can not stand to see people suffer.

To answer your original topic, I do not know what you mean about spreading disinformation. I have not seen as many Satanism disinfo posts as I see against Christianity.



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 09:34 PM
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Originally posted by undo
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don't worry. jesus will fill you in on which ones were not actually about him at all (pretty much all of them lol). you can say you're going to battle in the name of swiss cheese but doesn't mean it really has anything to do with swiss cheese.


wow. it never ceases to amaze me. i am starting to lose my faith in everything i read here now. it seems that people imagine things and then "remember" it. they even quote it.

when oh when did i ever say that I was doing or planning on doing any battle?



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 09:47 PM
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Originally posted by dunwichwitch
I think too many people tend to take religion for face value. Satanism is not a religion. It's a rebellion against something in which neither the majority of Religious people, nor the people who rebel against it, understand much about.

Christianity has some beautiful and enlightening concepts behind all of the dogmas the Church pushes. So do all religions. Try understanding, instead of rebelling and feeling bitterness and hatred and arrogance.

I can already tell that you're bitter, 666. If you weren't bitter, you wouldn't be going on about Satanism in the first place. It is absolutely ridiculous, man. Just drop it. If you wanna practice something other than religion, why not meditate and find your own wisdom and spiritual path? Why worship rebellion against creation, when your very essence is a part of that which you wish to rebel against?


my sincerest appologies. the above quote was supposed to go here. I hit the wrong one and i a jerk for that.



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 09:52 PM
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Simple allot of people are Christian, and the media displays Satanism as "evil". Since there are some bad incidents the media will jump right on it, and Christian-based propaganda soars. Although I have nothing against Christianity, of course.

Ah, and some people just prefer Satanism over other religions that doesn't mean they are "rebellious". Satanism originally was made to be "rebellious" from way back but it no longer is, it is a belief. It doesn't have to be a "religion" to be a good belief system.



[edit on 17-7-2008 by JamesRam]



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 09:54 PM
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Originally posted by Equinox99
reply to post by re22666
 


You are taking my posts out of context. If you are going to quote me then quote the whole post please. I never judged you, if you are a Satanist then that is fine by me. I never went to any post and derailed it by making fun of you. I simply came here to defend my beliefs against XLucifer. I never meant for this to turn out this way but I never attacked you.

Science can take us far. So why can't the weak and the strong get a long? You must shed the old way of life and accept we are all equal. Why should we kill off 2/3 of the planet so the 1/3 of the rich can survive. We can easily all work together to achieve greatness and prosperity. The elite make it difficult.

Think about this for a second. If everyone learned to work together against each other how fast would we move forward.

As I stated before I have not judged you. You could be a great guy I do not know. However if you believe what XLucifer believes then it would mean you are on a evil path. 2/3 will not be destroyed easily, it will be through wars, gangs, drugs, famine and diseases. Unlike some people, I can not stand to see people suffer.

To answer your original topic, I do not know what you mean about spreading disinformation. I have not seen as many Satanism disinfo posts as I see against Christianity.


you are right. i rushed. i was wrong. that was for someone else.



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 09:55 PM
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Originally posted by JamesRam
Simple allot of people are Christian, and the media displays Satanism as "evil". Since there are some bad incidents the media will jump right on it, and Christian-based propaganda soars. Although I have nothing against Christianity, of course.



i like that answer and i agree with everything you said. but what about here where apparently the MSM is abhored? i mean it is everywhere.



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