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posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by Xilvius
I would have to agree with the op. I am an ex-satanist myself, in a way anyways. I had studied up on what satanists believe in, and was rather shocked at why they are always percieved as bad. They follow a very humanistic code, which more or less just says to do things to enjoy your life, listen to your brothers, but keep your own belief. I think there should be something i nthe rules about claiming how everything bad is related to satanism and that it is infact a BAD thing. I could argue that all christians are more evil than satanists and will provide my own evidence now:

1. How many wars have been fought in the name of satan?
2. How many satanists do you have knocking at your door at all hours of the day trying to cram their religion down your throat?
3. Which would you prefer? A religion where you must obey every single last thing told to you because it was 'the right thing to do' and if you didn't you would goto a place and suffer for all eternity.

I could go on, but these are just a few examples. I think that everyone who is planning to say anything down on anyone elses religion had better have very very strong proof, and be prepared to have their own beliefs picked apart into nothing.


If you believe what the op says then what this means is that all the wars fought were sponsored by the elite.




posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 03:42 PM
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Regarding your opening post:

Isnt it cool to be on a website in which people know so much more than 99% of all people, but you still know so much more than this 1%?


There are many levels of ignorance to pass through. Even the highest level of knowledge is only a small speck of dust compared to infinity.



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 03:45 PM
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I never saw the OP post anywhere saying he was more intellectual than anyone else, yes he has a slight condescending tone but who here is perfect?

On another note how is this related to Satanism? As a moderator I would think you would be above insulting other members.



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 03:49 PM
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reply to post by Scurvy
 


hindsight, the position of comfort and intellectual hubris.
easy as pie..... now. let's talk later.



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by Equinox99


Unlike you I see the bigger picture. There are no losers or winners, in the end you will lose. This is a battle that you nor I have a comprehension of. So for you to speak of the arena you are letting your evilness control you.
If I lose then the winners are cowards. They fought a blind battle because they are not men enough to face us in the real battle field.


I don't even know where to begin with this statement it is full of Oxymorons!
You say their is no winners or loser, but I will lose in the End?
You say we have no comprehension of the battle, but you have claim victory over me (which is kind of puzzling because I'm not your enemy).
Then you contradict your self agin by admitting that fact that you mite lose.



I have no enemies. I hate no one. Me and you are very different people. I was taught to love everyone and everyone I love. You may hate me but that is fine in the end I will not be judged for your mistakes.


Just because you say you have know enemys doen't make it so. And for the record no where in any of my post did I say I hate anyone!



So what makes the Illuminati smarter then us? All the wealth they attained was handed to them by their ancestors. There is a difference between working hard to achieve goodness and working hard to achieve destruction.
The second one is easier then the first one. I can easily get 4 hand guns and 2 semi-automatic machine guns and run into a crowd to let off my clips.
It is harder to achieve eternal happiness.


I never said they were smart because of their wealth. Their are tons of people with wealth, but are powerless. They are smart because they attain knowledge and keep it to them selves. Its been that way since the begining of time.



I call them how I perceive them. Something who follows destruction is evil.
You are evil.


I don't follow the path of destruction the Human family does however and must be dealt with.



There are many weak animals. The difference is they carry little traits that help them along the way. Turtles are weak creatures yet they have lived longer then us. How has that affected them?


I don't understand your analogy?



I have no masters. I only serve God.


Another contradiction! You have no masters, but you serve God, is he not then your master? And if he is you master who put him in that position?



You may think that I am weak because I will not sink to your level. I am not.
I am strong mentally and physically.
The Illuminati are regular people, they will make a mistake, they will be taken down in the end[


You are weak because you will not Rise to my level. They have already made mistake's you just weren't there to catch them!



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 03:52 PM
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1. How many wars have been fought in the name of satan?


All of 'em.

Certainly not in the name of Jesus since his solution to violence was to turn the other cheek. Now who's paradigm does getting revenge and survival of the fittest fit more precisely into ? Certainly not the turn the other cheek guy.



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 03:57 PM
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Originally posted by undo



Thats fine aslong as you understand that what you like is irrelavent in the real world!



Is it? I'm a mother. Are you trying to say, that as a mother, my responses to my offspring are irrelevant?
You're funny.


You are living in a dream world, open your eyes. If they were relevent then their wouldn't be children dieing of starvation, or because of war etc. Your thinking is based in Emotions and isn't rational



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 04:01 PM
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it's never logical to cut off your foot to spite your other foot.
so one foot is lame. just compensate. so you're slow witted but exceedingly talented in music.. .here, have a piano, not here, have a lobotomy.

you'll figure it out. you already have in fact. you're just having fun razing the locals.



[edit on 17-7-2008 by undo]



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 04:01 PM
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Originally posted by undo



1. How many wars have been fought in the name of satan?


All of 'em.

Certainly not in the name of Jesus since his solution to violence was to turn the other cheek. Now who's paradigm does getting revenge and survival of the fittest fit more precisely into ? Certainly not the turn the other cheek guy.


What about when Jesus said "I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword"



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 04:02 PM
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xclucifer said;

You don't seem to understand that it is impossible to achieve true progress when their are people that think like you (or should I say don't think) on this planet, thus their is a plain in place to down size the population.





You seem to be SOOO disproving the whole op's stance.
Satanists are humanitarians, moral, etc., etc.....
Jesus' Sword is His Word, until he comes back!



[edit on 17-7-2008 by Clearskies]



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 04:04 PM
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Originally posted by Scurvy
I never saw the OP post anywhere saying he was more intellectual than anyone else, yes he has a slight condescending tone but who here is perfect?

On another note how is this related to Satanism? As a moderator I would think you would be above insulting other members.


1. The post was not intended as an insult but as a koan, meant for nobody other than the OP. Chances are he will not interpret it as an insult.

2. Moderators dont Moderate in Forums they participate in as Members.

3. Look at the bottom of this Forum: Im not even a Moderator of this Forum.

4. Im certainly not "above insult" should the ocassion arise.


5. Welcome to ATS.



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 04:04 PM
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the sword in that context was the word of God, the salvation message.
in the same house, 2 people with different outlooks will come to clash, not violently (hopefully), but on subjects like whether premarital sex is okay,
whether dying without salvation is okay, these are topics that would cause
disagreement. but the violence part, if you read the rest of his words, is
clearly a no-no.



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 04:05 PM
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I don't even know where to begin with this statement it is full of Oxymorons!
You say their is no winners or loser, but I will lose in the End?
You say we have no comprehension of the battle, but you have claim victory over me (which is kind of puzzling because I'm not your enemy).
Then you contradict your self agin by admitting that fact that you mite lose.


You are right, I left out in the end you will be judged by God. My bad I got too into the debate. I never claimed victory over you, I am victorious within myself because I am defending what I believe in.



Just because you say you have know enemys doen't make it so. And for the record no where in any of my post did I say I hate anyone!


So you wanting the weak humans dead is showing love? I do not want to see you hate.



I never said they were smart because of their wealth. Their are tons of people with wealth, but are powerless. They are smart because they attain knowledge and keep it to them selves. Its been that way since the begining of time.


So they are the people who are slowing down progression. With the knowledge they hold all of humanity could have progressed into the next level. Their greed is what is holding us back and I do not understand why you can't see this.



I don't follow the path of destruction the Human family does however and must be dealt with.


But you accept the destruction of humans which means you follow the same path. Of course not physically, but mentally.



I don't understand your analogy?


You stated how weak animals are killed. Turtles are one of the weakest creatures yet they have lasted longer then many of the animals.



Another contradiction! You have no masters, but you serve God, is he not then your master? And if he is you master who put him in that position?


You took it out of context. I replied to your quote about the masters of this world. I replied about not having any masters of this world. Only God.



You are weak because you will not Rise to my level. They have already made mistake's you just weren't there to catch them!


If you think you are at a higher level then me then you are mistaken. I do not wish death upon many people in the world.

Guess what will happen if the Illuminati take over? There is a great chance you will be dead, or be a work slave. If that is your idea of a great life then I would rather die by the gun.


[edit on 17-7-2008 by Equinox99]



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 04:07 PM
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I know, I know no one line answers, but I got to.

If the "Church" is wrong and the opposite " Satanism " ( I'd rather call it naturalism " ) is right. Then why not try to beat the truth down, it's what they do best! Right????



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 04:07 PM
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Originally posted by Skyfloating
reply to post by re22666
 


Regarding your opening post:

Isnt it cool to be on a website in which people know so much more than 99% of all people, but you still know so much more than this 1%?


There are many levels of ignorance to pass through. Even the highest level of knowledge is only a small speck of dust compared to infinity.


as i havent had time yet to read everything since i was here last, i felt compelled to respond to this one when i saw it here at work. I never said that I knew more than anyone on here about anything. Can you please show me where I made that claim? anywhere would be nice. Yes I can be a condescending prick at times but I guess when I begin a thread asking why people speak so athoratatively about things and state "facts" that are really not even a little bit true - and then get bombarded with Christian answers to nonchristian questions -because those answers are NOT facts...well then i kind of get a little tired of playing nice. I thought i was starting an innocent simple thread. if my tone upsets you, i truly appologize.
now you can either show where i claimed to know more than the rest of ATS, or appologize as well.



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 04:11 PM
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If you think you are at a higher level then me then you are mistaken. I do not wish death upon many people in the world.

Guess what will happen if the Illuminati take over? There is a great chance you will be dead, or be a work slave. If that is your idea of a great life then I would rather die by the gun.


[edit on 17-7-2008 by Equinox99]

Just to chime in on your comments. Humans are mostly selfish creatures. At the current rate of inhabb=itants nearly two thirds of the human population MUST die off for the rest to survive.

You already are a work slave, for one. No offense, but unless your a billionaire, your a serf.

Dying by the gun is so tacky, the sword and the blade are way more chivilrious! lol



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 04:11 PM
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If you think you are at a higher level then me then you are mistaken. I do not wish death upon many people in the world.

Guess what will happen if the Illuminati take over? There is a great chance you will be dead, or be a work slave. If that is your idea of a great life then I would rather die by the gun.


[edit on 17-7-2008 by Equinox99]

Just to chime in on your comments. Humans are mostly selfish creatures. At the current rate of inhabb=itants nearly two thirds of the human population MUST die off for the rest to survive.

You already are a work slave, for one. No offense, but unless your a billionaire, your a serf.

Dying by the gun is so tacky, the sword and the blade are way more chivilrious! lol



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 04:19 PM
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All valid points haha. I apologize, I got very gung-ho in this conversation, and thank you for the welcome.



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 04:21 PM
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Originally posted by Skyfloating
reply to post by re22666
 


Regarding your opening post:

Isnt it cool to be on a website in which people know so much more than 99% of all people, but you still know so much more than this 1%?


There are many levels of ignorance to pass through. Even the highest level of knowledge is only a small speck of dust compared to infinity.


one more thing for you before i leave the office. although i never did make the claim, it is obvious from what i have read on every thread about satanism on this site, I actually do know more than 99% of the people that have posted "knowledge" of it. I do not even claim to know everything or be an expert, but I sure have those folks beat.

Arguments aside, this thread looks like it has been busy and I cannot wait to get home to read it all. Thanks to everyone agreeing, disagreeing, and in between for saying anything at all.



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 04:22 PM
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hey anybody here play wow?

i'm up for a challenge! that's the kind of violence that is
acceptable. the fake kind. not the real stuff, where you kill
real people, break real bones.

if the world disputes were solved in a video arena, imagine
how much more peaceful the planet would be, and no loss of life,
no tragedy.

someone once said, if our world leaders all ate a stalk of celery before
going to their summits, the world would be a much more peaceful place (Apparently celery has a sedative effect on the nervous system)

[edit on 17-7-2008 by undo]





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