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Topic started on 15-7-2008 @ 10:21 PM by trekker
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came accros this, and thought a few of you might be interested, some may know of them allready but for those that don't, enjoy.
America's 60 Families
LISTS
Dynasties listed below were included in America's 60 Families, Ferdinand Lundberg's 1937 expose on the super-rich. Lundberg used tax records to
uncover the often impenetrable financial and political machinations of the 60 Families, effectively publishing a directory of names and occupations of
family scions as well as estimates of their fortunes.
"The United States is owned and dominated today by a hierarchy of its sixty richest families, buttressed by no more than ninety families of
lesser wealth... These families are the living center of the modern industrial oligarchy which dominates the United States, functioning discreetly
under a de jure democratic form of government behind which a de facto government, absolutist and plutocratic in its lineaments, has gradually taken
form since the Civil War. This de facto government is actually the government of the United States -- informal, invisible, shadowy. It is the
government of money in a dollar democracy."
Families are listed in ranked order (according to 1924 tax records) with their primary sources of wealth.
1 Rockefeller Family Standard Oil
2 Morgan Family J. P. Morgan & Co.
3 Ford Family Ford Motors
4 Harkness Family Standard Oil
5 Mellon Family Aluminum Company
6 Vanderbilt Family NY Central R&R
7 Whitney Family Standard Oil
8 Standard Oil Families Standard Oil
9 Du Pont Family DuPont
10 McCormick Family International Harvester, Chicago Times
11 Baker Family First National Bank
12 Fisher Family General Motors
13 Guggenheim Family American Smelting & Refining Co.
14 Field Family Marshall Field's
15 Curtis-Boks Family Curtis Publishing Co.
16 Duke Family American Tobacco Company
17 Berwind Family Berwind-White Coal Co.
18 Lehman Family Lehman Brothers
19 Widener Family American Tobacco Company, public utilities
20 Reynolds Family R. J. Reynolds
21 Astor Family Real estate
22 Winthrop Family Miscellaneous
23 Stillman Family Citibank
24 Timken Family Timken
25 Pitcairn Family Pittsburgh Plate Glass Co. (now PPG Industries)
26 Warburg Family Kuhn, Loeb & Co.
27 Metcalf Family Rhode Island textile mills
28 Clark Family Singer Sewing Machine Co.
29 Phipps Family Carnegie Steel
30 Kahn Family Kuhn, Loeb & Co.
31 Green Family Stocks and real estate
32 Patterson Family Chicago Tribune
33 Taft Family Real estate
34 Deering Family International Harvester
35 De Forest Family Corporate law practice
36 Gould Family Railroads
37 Hills Family Railroads
38 Drexel Family J. P. Morgan & Co.
39 Ryan Family Stock market
40 Foster Family Auto parts
41 Johnson Family Victor Phonograph
42 James Family Copper and railroads
43 Nash Family Automobiles
44 Schiff Family Kuhn, Loeb & Co.
45 Patten Family Wheat market
46 Hayden Family Stock market
47 Weber Family Allied Chemical & Dye Corp.
48 Blumenthal Family Lazard
49 Mills Family Mining
50 Friedsam Family Merchandising
51 McLean Family Mining
52 Higgins Family New York real estate
53 Cochran Family Textiles
54 Kirkwood Family
55 Tyson Family
56 Huntington Family Railroads
57 Storrow Family Lee Higginson & Co.
58 Rosenwald Family Sears Roebuck
59 Baruch Family Stock market
60 Kresge Family Merchandising
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reply posted on 15-7-2008 @ 10:30 PM by reject
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man, I wish I were rich...
How do these stack up to the rest of the world? I really got this hunch that the lynchpin of the elite is european.
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reply posted on 15-7-2008 @ 10:42 PM by trekker
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not to sure how they stack up to the European ones, coudn't find that out anywhere, maybe some one else can find it, every where i looked, the
rockerfeller fortune remains a mystery.
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reply posted on 15-7-2008 @ 11:13 PM by NovusOrdoMundi
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Originally posted by reject
I really got this hunch that the lynchpin of the elite is european.
A lot of these families are international in their reach. They have their hands in everything, not just American politics and business.
However, the richest in Europe would include royal families from the United Kingdom, Liechtenstein and Luxembourg, as well as the Rothschild
family.
But if you're looking for the major players in a "New World Order", look no further than the Rockefeller, Morgan and Rothschild families. Throw
#30, Kuhn and Loeb, in there as well, as they were involved in the creation of the Federal Reserve.
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reply posted on 15-7-2008 @ 11:28 PM by Shar_Chi
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The wealth of the top 10 families would probably bring the entire USA out of debt tomorrow. And yet 261,255 families lose their home to foreclosure
every month in the USA
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reply posted on 15-7-2008 @ 11:34 PM by JesterMan
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This is the only list I could find of the Richest Families in the World. Unfortunetly, the list is from 2002.
The list is that of individual billionairs. It is crazt to see though, that if the Walton Family (Wal-Mart) were counted as one, they would be worth
well over $100 billion dollars. That is pretty sick.
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reply posted on 15-7-2008 @ 11:38 PM by antmax21
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Most of these families created their wealth during the Crash of the Stock Market...so which families before that actually had wealth? Who are their
descendants from earlier years? Would that even matter...or Was this entire idea of a NWO implemented during the creation of the Federal
Reserve?....!!! lol
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reply posted on 16-7-2008 @ 12:02 AM by trekker
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the list that i posted in the OP was taken in 1923,
if you want to know about decendants from those check out this site NNDB Mapper
you could spend an eternity on there doing a lot of research, a vast sourch of information. well worth a read.
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reply posted on 16-7-2008 @ 12:23 AM by Queen Maeve
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Those families engineered the "Great" Stock Market Crash and then bought up everything when it was worthless.
During that time period they had their yachts at the ready to sail them Europe if the People rose up against them.
These families and their minions like the Cheneys have long ago converted their dollars to Euros and metals. Most of the minions are moving abroad or
have already done so because this time they expect the People really will rise up.
They have their bunker cities in North America and they also have their escape routes out of the nation.
Watching Karl Rove flee the country rather than testify to Congress has been like watching the first rat getting off the sinking ship.
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reply posted on 17-7-2008 @ 08:07 AM by DataWraith
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Whats the real point of being insanely rich?
ooh the power you can buy ( you cant trust anyone you buy, coz the next person can buy their loyality same as you did).
. The wealth you can leave to your children (they'll get lazy and greedier than the parent, therefore perpetuating the evil)
. The power they can wield (same as your power above).
But truth be told there's absolutely NO POINT being uber rich or powerful and keeping it in your pocket or giving it to your family to get lazy off.
Even if your rich you cant take it with you when you die, and you certainly CANNOT buy immortality or even be given it.
So to all those rich and uber-rich people in the world , Do some good with it and actually try to help humanity better itself instead of buying more
cars and more houses.
That way your guaranteed to be loved and remembered when you die , why not leave a legacy to man thats beneficial instead of one thats rememebred only
because people saw you as evil and greedy.
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reply posted on 17-7-2008 @ 11:15 PM by seridium
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These super rich people Crash countries with war and famine and just as if they had Scenarios they plan and execute, and after everyone has been taken
care of that needed to be they send in countries like Canada to clean up the mess along with the guys referred to as United Nations (UN) just as they
did in Haiti,
The 2004 coup, the brutal murder of thousands in resistant neighbourhoods, and the continuous extensions of the UN occupation were (and are)
necessary to assure this program’s successful implementation. Canada has taken a leading role in this whole operation and, as former Foreign Affairs
Minister Peter MacKay has stated, “Canada will be [in Haiti] for an indefinite period of time.”1
Source
It's total bull these rich elite after the governments have done their jobs for them they go and create the factories the companies and the Capitail
Gain!
These Elites Own you they own the government , the Saudia Arabians have at least 800 billion invested in the USA they own abit of you too, all we are
is minor pieces of their systems capital, we keep theirminions paid and we watch our TV's we eat the garbage they produce and we sit idle.
Here is a note from world banker have a read of this.
THE LETTER
Our globalist friend says he wants to explain political reality so we "might know how to behave in the New Order now taking shape on the earth."
He exults in the fact that he represents a secret force that controls the world yet is invisible to all.
"We run everything, yet, you do not know who to attack. I must say this hidden hand is wonderfully devised and without any known historical precedent
on this scale. We rule the world and the world cannot even find out who is ruling them. This is truly a wonderful thing. In our media we present
before you exactly what it is we want you to do. Then, as if in a flash, our little servants obey."
But he does identify himself. He clearly represents the central bankers: "Your own money has served to forge the chains we bind you with, since we
are in control of all money."
As I have said, the central banking cartel is the mainspring of the New World Order. By giving foreign private interests the power to create money
based on our credit, our predecessors doomed Western Civilization. These private interests naturally bought control of everything and everyone and now
want to institutionalize their control globally. This is behind world government and at the heart of the "war on terror."
"Our kingdom is the kingdom of money," our globalist friend writes. "We have given you a piece of paper or some numbers on a computer screen that
we have termed 'money.' It is backed up by nothing and proven by nothing but what we say it is. We create it from nothing, we print it, we loan it,
we give it its value, and we take its value away. All things that have to do with money are in our hands."
Our globalist friend reveals that the bankers have a symbiotic relationship with us. We produce profits by borrowing from them.
"We want you to be in the system. When you are buying a house, we not only receive the tax revenue to use for our purposes, but we gain large
increases from the interest on the loan. You may pay for your house two or three times over from the interest alone. The interest is also taxed which
is again placed for use in those sectors of influence we choose. We do not want you to escape free and that is why we have made it as we have."
One of those sectors of influence is education. He says our taxes pay for "the indoctrination of your children in the public schools we have set up.
We want them to grow up well trained into the system of our thinking. Your children will learn what we want them to learn, when we want them to learn
it, and you pay for it."
"You are our property. We will not permit you to buy or sell unless you submit to our mark of authority. If you go to court against us, we will wear
you out there and in the end you will lose. If you use violence, we will end up having you in one of our labor camps, more specifically called prison
industries. You need our money, our entertainments, our fuel, and our utilities to function and if you don't have them, you feel deprived. By this,
you are made to yield to our will."
OUR LEADERS
Our political leaders are chosen from the ranks of criminals and perverts because they can be made to obey using blackmail. Exposing President
Clinton's depravity was "very helpful in adjusting the moral habits of the youth downward."
He scoffs at attempts to impeach Clinton: "He is useful to us and he will not be removed by anyone until we are ready to have him removed...the
leader we set up will be there until it serves us to have another. At that time we place our proposed leader before you and you vote for what we want.
In that way we give you the vain voting exercise in the belief you had something to do with placing your president in office."
He cites Sadaam Hussein and Slobodan Milosevic as leaders who refused to obey. "There is only glory in following our purposes and doing what we say.
If one does not, there will be such a sad and tragic result. I would really have you spared of such an end."
As for smaller fry, he says rebellion will merely serve as an excuse for more repressive laws. They can tie dissenters up in court, which they also
control. They can destroy people like David Koresh and discredit them at the same time.
He says Liberals and Conservatives "serve with the stamp of our approval but they are not allowed to present the real issues. By creating controversy
on all levels, no one knows what to do. So, in all of this confusion, we go ahead and accomplish what we want with no hindrance."
He says the media occupy the masses with sex and violence so people are programmed to fight mindlessly and "do not have the integrity or brain power
to deal with the really important matters which are left entirely in our hands."
China and Russia do not present a challenge: "We have no fear of Russia or China for we are already in full control of their system of things. China
knows that we can freeze any number of its corporations in America and all of its capital at the stroke of a pen."
CONCLUSION
We are taught that society is participating in an age of enlightenment and progress but this is a ruse. In fact a brutal claw reaches out of the past
to impale mankind on its sharp talons.
We are witnessing the culmination of a diabolical conspiracy against mankind.
Source
J.D. Rockefeller was one of the many men behind the creation of the first world bank. An American senator was the one to pass the world bank proposal
to congress, his excuse was so that there would never be another 1907 panic. Promising to ratify the Central Bank bill, President Truman received
funding from the bank for his campaign. Years later, Truman wrote in regret.
Your income tax goes to pay the interest for the bank. 35% of your annually income goes to the bank, meaning you work roughly 4 months of the year to
pay this interest.
When powerful people work together, they become even more powerful. The Elite membership is wealthy, and becoming more so, while the middle class is
steadily becoming poorer. This close-knit group determines whether prices rise or fall (by their control of the banking system, money supply, and
markets), and they make money whichever way markets fluctuate. They determine what our rights are and which laws have effect, by appointing judges.
They decide who our highest officials shall be by consensus among themselves, and then selling candidates to us via the media which they own.
Important issues and facts are omitted from discussion in the press, or slanted to suit their goals. Is there true democracy when so much power is
concentrated in so few hands? Is there any real difference between the public and private sectors when
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reply posted on 20-7-2008 @ 11:17 AM by Anonymous ATS
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If I were an insanely rich father of an insanely rich family (US or otherwise) it would seem logical to me to establish close links to other such
families in other countries. My objective after all is to retain my wealth and be left alone by everyone to go about expanding it. No doubt in my mind
that the links with European and US rich families is close. Look at the city of London to start with. Increasingly also those in places such as
Indonesia, Philippines, many countries in South America etc and how about China, the Arab world and Russia. I should be absolutely fascinated to
uncover the processes by which contacts are upheld, programs progressed and agreements detailed. Scary, scary. And the whole thing is probably in the
hands of no more than a few thousand very wealthy individuals.
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reply posted on 20-7-2008 @ 11:48 AM by hinky
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I'll state the obvious.
No Bill Gate or Warren Buffet listed. Together, these 2 have more than how many dozens of the families listed. I didn't list Carlos Slim Helú from
Mexico as we all know he's tied in somehow. These three along with number 4 and 5 on the richest people in the world list, out wealth all the
families owning the governments. listed as a group.
As for Europe and old money, number 8 belong to a Swede, number 11 to a German.... so much for European money in today's world.
This never ends.....
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reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 07:15 PM by Anonymous ATS
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The last I was informed, Mr. Gates is not involved in the NWO. He accumulated his wealth rapidly, and became the richest individual, making the seven
families quite uneasy.
Whether or not he has been brought in to their circle is, unfortunately, information unavailable to us at this time.
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reply posted on 13-8-2009 @ 10:23 PM by grayhawkz01
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I was browsing through all these family trees and I heard Otacon's voice echo, "We know who the patriots are, they're all dead!"
What if nearing the end of their days they implemented a system that was near flawless.
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reply posted on 15-8-2009 @ 10:14 AM by PublicDefenseCorp
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Something that needs to be understood, is the Rothschild families have the absolute largest wealth money wise. So large it cannot be fully accounted
for, and only guessed at.
They are without a doubt, the money wise, wealthiest familes in exsistance.
However, to these elite families money is irrelevant.
They create it, so to them, they see it differently as an average Joe would.
Overall absolute power is what matters, not finances.
When people are looking at these 12 "elite" families and guess as to who is who in the order of power, you fail to realize an over-all ruling of 12
families cannot and will not work.
Have you ever seen a kingdom where several families were in complete control?
No.
Therefore, in the end the NWO will not work. There will always be one family trying to assume total control, and eventually they will all turn on each
other. You simply cannot share this all between so many without jealousy, and arguements amongst each other.
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reply posted on 17-8-2009 @ 03:54 AM by Tussilago
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Hey, that's one impressive 1937 list! Very interesting.
Maybe one should note though that wealth does not automatically translate into politico-ideological power, whether official or covert. For example, in
the 19th century, the long established, rich New England families, according to Barbara Tuchman, "did not shoulder - but shunned - the
responsibilities of government", concentrating on making money instead ( The Proud Tower 1994, p. 118).
Also, Henry Ford, who makes third place on that list, was in fact a pacifist, social reformer, isolationist, anti-Semite and anti-Big Banking guy, who
wanted the United States not to be dragged into another war with Germany and accepted Hitler and the National Socialist government. To put it mildly,
not exactly the notions and values to rhyme with either the banking establishment nor mass media of the time, nor in what became dominant propaganda
themes during the FDR war party era. For all his wealth, Ford was obviously a political fringe figure and his influence marginal at best.
On the other hand, there are a number of names I would likely place in the "NWO" category, maybe especially the Rockefellers, the Warburgs, the
Schiffs, the Morgans etc.
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reply posted on 18-8-2009 @ 07:42 PM by redfaction
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you have really done your home work here. but the one thing that is a little behind the times is, alot of these families have lost vast amounts of
wealth the last few years. it was actually what i read and believe part of a economical ousting of them for other recently self made men and families
to take their places. this has all been done through economical and political means over the past 50 years. if you want to talk more send me a
message and ill fill you in.
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reply posted on 19-8-2009 @ 02:59 AM by Bananarama
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Err now isn't this what everyone is SUPPOSED to think?
Oh the rich people are so greedy, ts ts ts will they ever learn? The truth is that they are filled with seething evil and don't have the capacity to
learn kindness. They go out of their way NOT to help anyone.
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reply posted on 20-8-2009 @ 03:18 AM by Ex_MislTech
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It is funny that some of the old rich are not even on that list.
Namely the Rothschilds.
There are others I am sure.
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