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So called 'Respected Foes'

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posted on Jul, 15 2008 @ 02:41 PM
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Why are people on foes lists called 'respected foes'? It would be OK to have a separate list for 'Respected' foes, but quite frankly I do not have any respect for some 'Respected Foes' on my respected foes list and that because of what they have posted in some of their threads I think they are scum of the earth.

Why can't we have a Foes list that is separate from the 'Respected Foes' list?




posted on Jul, 15 2008 @ 02:44 PM
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Yeah, you'd have:

"Respected Foes"

then...

"No, seriously, I don't like these people"

Haha, but I do agree with you. Anybody I took the time to actually put on their said something that I didn't "respect" in the least. However, with ATS, everyone tries to be copacetic, and I get that. You wouldn't want any negativity on these boards, would you?



posted on Jul, 15 2008 @ 02:48 PM
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Why do you care so much about lists?

Do you want to be on my list?



All ATS members should be respected, just as all people should be respected, so yea that includes your 'scum of the Earth'.

You know I've yet to meet someone on ATS I would consider 'scum of the Earth', I don't even consider ThroatYogurt that lol....You must have a pretty high opinion of yourself...



posted on Jul, 15 2008 @ 02:51 PM
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If someone is seriously getting on your nerves and there is no way that discussing something with him/her/it
will bring any good for people involved - ignore function is much more usefull. All the rest, even if they do not agree with you (especialy if they are very good at prooving their point), should be treated with respect.
In my opinion.
Edit: Ffpelling.

[edit on 15-7-2008 by ZeroKnowledge]



posted on Jul, 15 2008 @ 02:51 PM
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If I don't like someone enough to put them on a 'foes' list then I certainly don't respect them. Therefore - my 'respected foes' list is empty. Foes.. yes. Respected .. no.

Empty list.



posted on Jul, 15 2008 @ 02:55 PM
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Why would you need to show the people you don't like at all? I know who I don't like, you know who you don't like, why would you need the entire board to know it? It would be better to keep it to yourself.



posted on Jul, 15 2008 @ 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by enjoies05
It would be better to keep it to yourself.

I can't give you any stars, enjoies, but your entire post deserves it.
I agree with you 100%. It's not necessary. In fact, I think the
friends/foes list that we already have isn't necessary. (but no one asked
my opinion on it, so .. whatever)




posted on Jul, 15 2008 @ 03:03 PM
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So, why do you feel the need to reply to a thread about a list that you think is pointless in the first place?


And I can tell you that the 'scum of the Earth' reference really does apply to the individual in question. And I'm not the only one who thinks so. The fact that you see no difference between respecting someone and not respecting someone is odd to say the least.



posted on Jul, 15 2008 @ 03:08 PM
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If they are that big of a deal to you and you just can't accept any opinion they give, then put them on ignore. That way you just never even have to read what they say.



posted on Jul, 15 2008 @ 06:54 PM
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Originally posted by UFOpsychiczebra
So, why do you feel the need to reply to a thread about a list that you think is pointless in the first place?

The fact that you see no difference between respecting someone and not respecting someone is odd to say the least.


I think you're talking to me? You obviously don't know what respect means. Liking someone and respecting someone are two different things. I replied to the thread because I wanted to, is that OK with you? Or do I need to earn your respect first?


I feel sorry for you if you feel you need to hate before you can love.

Everyone deserves to be treated with respect and consideration.
It's the lack of this that causes so much stress in our life.


10. to show regard or consideration for: to respect someone's rights.

Source

Everyone has the right to be treated with respect, dignity and consideration. Don't you think you have that right, or do you not mind when you are not respected or treated with consideration? The reason I made that post was to prove a point. I disrespected you and your post and you got mad, which proves my point, you feel you I should have respected you, right? Did you earn it yet?



posted on Jul, 15 2008 @ 07:22 PM
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I don't need a list to tell me people I like..

The people who know me know who I like.. Its like a cliche or whatever...

Most of the 9/11 wackjobs stick together, maybe people in alien forum does, and or politics..

I really don't see the need for a list...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

My profile, notice it is not used...

As such respect for me is as follows..

Bsbray, wecomeinpeace, Griff, ANOK, and a few others.. They don't need me to tell them I respect them, they already know that..

And for the people i don't like, reading posts I make in threads they do speaks for itself.



posted on Jul, 16 2008 @ 04:22 AM
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You. Are going on my Ignore List.

Problem solved. I have No time for whiners and nit-pickers.

/ignore



posted on Jul, 16 2008 @ 04:39 AM
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Honestly, does anyone actually use the button for what it is intended? I have no one on my list because if you "keep me on my toes", I am probably going to add you as a friend. 4 people list me as their foes. 2 don't like me and the other 2 are the people who have tried to add everyone as their foe.

Does anyone use it for people they genuinely respect?



posted on Jul, 16 2008 @ 05:02 AM
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Nicely put, and for that very reason I've been meaning to put you on my friends list for a while now - we don't always agree, but I do respect the way you express your thoughts and opinions.

In fact, I'd better do it now before I forget.

Again



posted on Jul, 16 2008 @ 06:40 AM
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I've used the respected foes list for just that, people on ATS who are at opposite odds to me and generally make better arguements than me, while not blathering to much. Even if they counter my beliefs and opinions, generally they open me up to a new point of view, give me something to chew, or show me where I need to do more research.
On the flipside, you have the people that seem to make a proffession of throwing out junk. You can prove them wrong a dozen times, but they keep shoveling more... well, manure is actually a good thing. MThey shovel more waste on a threa d than I really wanna read.
Then I spy with my little eye the ignore button.
Generally speaking I rarely use the ignore button because tgenerally the person I'm about to ignore gets banned anyway. If not, they generally learn better nehaviour.
Basically: Respeacted foes, smart guys, different viewpoints.
Ignore: Blathering idiots, waste of bandwith, jedimiller (just kidding man)



posted on Jul, 16 2008 @ 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by ANOK
I think you're talking to me? You obviously don't know what respect means. Liking someone and respecting someone are two different things. I replied to the thread because I wanted to, is that OK with you? Or do I need to earn your respect first?


I feel sorry for you if you feel you need to hate before you can love.

...
Everyone has the right to be treated with respect, dignity and consideration. Don't you think you have that right, or do you not mind when you are not respected or treated with consideration? The reason I made that post was to prove a point. I disrespected you and your post and you got mad, which proves my point, you feel you I should have respected you, right? Did you earn it yet?


I don't care if you show me respect or not. In fact I have no interest in debating the nature of respect with you or anyone else. If you read my OP you will see what this thread is actually about. Not your personal crusade for the lack of respect you feel you get from whoever. Why are you going on about this? Don't take it so personally. Chill out.



posted on Jul, 16 2008 @ 02:03 PM
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So if someone disagrees with you then you don't respect them? At least you are open minded



posted on Jul, 16 2008 @ 02:06 PM
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I respect the fact that the people on my foe's list are wrong...

Simple.



posted on Jul, 16 2008 @ 02:24 PM
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hmmm... too many to put on one list

quite



posted on Jul, 16 2008 @ 02:29 PM
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I think it is necessary to elaborate on my OP for those who appear to have entirely misunderstood what was written. I also think that the people who run ATS knew what they were doing when they decided to allow friends and foes lists for members. They are common on all networking sites and forums across the internet. So, for some members in this thread to debate the inherent worth of those lists is pointless and off topic.

There are different forms of respect. But, the only one that applies in this instance (ATS members) is the respect for someone's opinions - not for the person themselves as a human being - that is a different kind of respect, and the truth is you really don't know someone over the internet as much as some of seem to think you do.
Therefore, all respect on ATS is entirely based on expressed opinion and discussion behaviour.

With that said,(and hopefully finally understood by all this time
), I stand by my comment that the person in question is in my opinion the 'scum of the Earth' and someone who in my opinion does not deserve respect. Their recent discussions have advocated Infanticide, (the practice of someone intentionally causing the death of an infant.) for no reason other than they think it will mean there are less children in the world, pornography and supporting child abuse. It is your choice to respect their opinion of pornography etc., however, I do not. A brief look at their post list will show you the kind of person they are, including their support of a paedophile who watched babies being raped on video.

So, no, I do not respect that kind of child hating, child abuse supporting member. If you do then you are free to do so. There are many members on ATS whom I disagree with but I can respect their opinion. However, I will never respect the opinion of someone supporting the rape of babies.

You will note that I have not commented on your respect for that particular member and their opinions. I suggest you rethink what respect means if you cannot understand that you may disagree with me about that member but that you should respect my right to not respect them. By criticising my opinion of that particular member you are contradicting yourself regarding respect.

Respecting the right of someone to HAVE an opinion is NOT the same as respecting everything they think and have an opinion of.




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