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reply posted on 14-7-2008 @ 11:45 PM by Karlhungis
reply to post by madhatter3113





. People would be too focused on physical death and ignore their spirits/spiritual death caused by doing harmful things becasue it won't kill your body.


It's funny that you mention that. I think you are correct and a lot of people would do that. However, I think that personally I would view it as an opportunity to really go in the opposite direction. Really dedicate some time into spirituality and try to become right with death, or god, or however you want to view it.


reply posted on 15-7-2008 @ 12:10 AM by Karlhungis
reply to post by DevolutionEvolvd



Thanks for the post.



Why not dedicate time to spirituality now, in your daily lives?


I have definitely worked on it lately and it certainly helps, but working 12 hour shifts and sneaking in a bit of reading and really trying to focus on it is one thing, but if I knew I was going to die in say 2 years, I would want to go find a guru in India and / or get a shaman in South America... Big spiritual things that just don't work with my current lifestyle and obligations.


reply posted on 15-7-2008 @ 12:17 AM by toasted
reply to post by Karlhungis




" Would you want to know when you will die? "

well, I already have a pretty good idea how, and why, and by whom...



knowing the time would probably not be a good thing...


reply posted on 15-7-2008 @ 12:20 AM by Karlhungis
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That is a pretty ominous response. Not really sure how to respond to that.... I hope it isn't as bad as I have made it out to be in my mind.


reply posted on 15-7-2008 @ 12:44 AM by toasted
Originally posted by Karlhungis
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post by toasted




That is a pretty ominous response. Not really sure how to respond to that.... I hope it isn't as bad as I have made it out to be in my mind.


I am a Christian, and if you know anything about the end times, we'll be persecuted, like the inquisition.

and

I was shown a cpl things prior to my birth...like there would be cameras everywhere...and one other thing.


nite...


reply posted on 15-7-2008 @ 12:54 AM by alciefrederic
reply to post by Duane Barry



That is similar to the Grandfather Paradox. Say if you see yourself get hit by a car in future at a known exact time, and you avoid it successfully, then you shouldn't have seen it, and you wouldn't stay home. It shouldn't be too hard to avoid a car accident, but then it's paradoxical, I don't know, may be there'll be some kind of force that'll make it happen no matter what (like you suddenly feel a big need to get outside, and boom..), but that idea troubles me.

About knowing the time I'll die, I don't know. By knowing that, I may be able to make my life more useful, but I don't think I can bear such pain.



reply posted on 15-7-2008 @ 01:01 AM by Duane Barry
reply to post by alciefrederic



I find that whole idea extremely troubling. I mean, if you knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that you would be hit by a car and die at an exact second then you could run around getting hit by cars intentionally and not be killed. But no matter what you do, you will be hit by a car and die when you are supposed to.


reply posted on 15-7-2008 @ 01:07 AM by Karlhungis
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but I don't think I can bear such pain


Interesting point of view. To me, death is a certainty. We all have to go through it. I don't think I would view the knowledge of the time of my death as being much more painful than living a wasted life and dying unexpectedly.


reply posted on 15-7-2008 @ 01:13 AM by Astyanax
Surprise me

One of my friends was diagnosed with cancer of the liver a few months ago. His doctor has told him that, even with 'management', he has at most two years to live.

He's taking the whole thing very calmly. Looking at and talking to him, I am constantly amazed by his equanimity in the face of his death-sentence. It's true he hasn't got any unfinished business -- he's retired, his only daughter is an independent adult, he's been divorced and single for many years -- but I'm still impressed by how calmly he's taking it. He's certainly thinking about death, though: among the books on his bedside table are the Bardo Thodol, some Buddhist sutras and Gerald Messadié's History of the Devil.

I don't believe that, handed such a death-sentence, I should be able to accept it with such equanimity.

Another friend, about the same age as the first, was examined following an angina attack and told he needed a six-way bypass operation. He was amazed at this, since (despite a previous heart attack some ten years ago) was in excellent health and taking care of himself well. He was deeply involved in life -- a writer, artist and film-maker, a man who spent at least half of every year living travelling off the beaten track, mostly on foot, with the poorest people -- nomadic beggars and Hindu holy men, forest-dwellers and the like -- and building a wilderness resort up in the mountains which was to be his retirement policy in old age. Here was a guy who lived every minute as if it was to be his last -- married for a second time in his fifties to a beautiful English wife, with whom he had had two infant children. A man with everything to lose (except he never cared about that, never) and everything to live for.

He submitted to the recommended procedure (which was carried out in Singapore) and died on the operating table. Basically, he went to sleep and never woke up. I'd say that was good way to go -- except, of course, for those he left behind. But that wasn't his fault.

No, please don't tell me when it's time. I want it to be a surprise.
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